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Cheaper Than Mink Or Sable - Fur Coats Made From Dogs That Were Skinned Alive
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 12-18-2005 | Katy Duke/Elizabeth Day

Posted on 12/17/2005 6:07:46 PM PST by blam

Cheaper than mink or sable - fur coats made from dogs that were skinned alive

By Katy Duke and Elizabeth Day
(Filed: 18/12/2005)

It looks like the must-have item in every glamorous woman's winter wardrobe: a sleek, black fur coat dripping with opulence.

But despite the seductive appearance, the coat is not mink or sable. Instead, it has been manufactured from dog fur - possibly from an animal that was drugged and skinned alive to preserve the fur's freshness.

Heather Mills-McCartney with a rug made from cats' pelts Similar coats are selling rapidly in fashion boutiques across Europe.

An undercover investigation has revealed a booming trade in dog fur coats from eastern Europe, some of which are likely to be on sale in Britain. The fur, which comes from both strays and captured pets, is often re-labelled to disguise its origins before being stitched into coats and re-dyed. This Bulgarian fur, for instance, was incorrectly passed off as "Korean Wolf".

Unlike a mink, which can cost £10,000, a top-price coat made from dog pelt may sell in markets of western Europe for around £400.

The investigation by a German television documentary crew focused on Bulgaria, where it found that stray dogs were routinely rounded up by licensed trappers and delivered to fur factories.

Anita Singh, a campaign co-ordinator for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals in Britain, said that there were also reports of pets being snatched for their fur. "They tend to be bigger dogs like German shepherds or golden retrievers," she said. "It is important for people to realise that when they buy fur it is nearly impossible to tell whether real dog or cat has been used unless it undergoes extensive DNA testing.

"You can find dog fur in shopping centres in Britain labelled as something else. It is a disgusting industry and our advice is simply to avoid all types of fur."

It is not illegal to trade in dog and cat fur in Britain, although bans have been imposed in the United States, Sweden, Denmark, Greece, Italy, France and Australia.

The British Fur Trade Association, which represents the fur industry, said none of its members knowingly used dog fur, and it had introduced a labelling system to try to guard against its use.

Most furs - such as mink, fox, seal or rabbit - have their own classification so it is possible to see how much is imported and exported. Fur that falls under the "other fur" category, however, does not have to be listed by species and could include dog or cat fur.

Historically, the British have been unwilling to buy dog fur. In the children's book, 101 Dalmatians, written by Dodie Smith in 1948, the villainous Cruella de Vil tries to steal dalmatian puppies to make herself a unique spotted coat.

Yordanka Zrcheva, the president of the Bulgarian Society for the Protection of Animals, went undercover for a German television documentary to demonstrate the extent of the problem.

Miss Zrcheva said that the country, which is hoping to join the European Union in just over a year, produced "tens of thousands" of dog pelts to sell across Europe.

"There is a massive industry based on the systematic killing of dogs," she said. "There are dog fur factories all over Bulgaria, and they produce all sorts of items, like fur coats, leather shoes and bags made from dogs and so on."

According to Rumi Becker, a spokesman for the Doctors for Animals group which works for the protection of Bulgaria's stray dogs, the authorities are unwilling to clamp down because the industry is "big business".

In Bulgaria the average salary is around £35 a month, while a teacher makes about £80 a month and a doctor £100. One fur coat can be sold inside the country for £200 and more than double that abroad.

"It is hard to collate exact numbers but around 10,000 dogs are collected and killed in Sofia alone every year, often shipped straight to fur factories from dog pounds and animal shelters," said Dr Becker.

"The so-called fur lords who run the factories are farming the dogs on the street without having to pay any support. They don't have to feed or house them or anything except round them up and then skin them.

"I bought a black and white coat labelled Korean Wolf. I asked if it was made with street dog fur, and the vendor said it was, but that I should keep my voice down. I was pretending to be a dealer, and asked if it would be possible to have more. She told me she had 750 in a storeroom in Sofia."

Last week, the anti-fur campaigner Heather Mills McCartney urged the European Union to ban the trade in cat and dog fur, citing the example of the Czech Republic.

"Domestic cats are stolen off the streets, and we're talking about 2,000 to 3,000 just in the Czech Republic, not in the whole of Europe," she said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alive; cats; cheaper; coats; cruelty; dogs; eu; europe; fur; made; mink; petapropaganda; sable; skinned; than
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1 posted on 12/17/2005 6:07:47 PM PST by blam
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To: HairOfTheDog

Ping.


2 posted on 12/17/2005 6:08:20 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

They really smell great when wet.


3 posted on 12/17/2005 6:08:49 PM PST by edpc
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To: blam

I've heard of Doggie Style, but this is ridiculous.


4 posted on 12/17/2005 6:09:19 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Slings and Arrows

Horribly cruelty to dogs and cats ping.

"But despite the seductive appearance, the coat is not mink or sable. Instead, it has been manufactured from dog fur - possibly from an animal that was drugged and skinned alive to preserve the fur's freshness.

Heather Mills-McCartney with a rug made from cats' pelts Similar coats are selling rapidly in fashion boutiques across Europe.


5 posted on 12/17/2005 6:10:30 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: blam

If there is a market it will sell.

I won't buy it, but... some silly person will...


6 posted on 12/17/2005 6:11:11 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: blam

Where is PETA now?


7 posted on 12/17/2005 6:12:15 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: blam

So much for the "moral high ground" of Europe, who gets all upset, when a cruel murderer like Tookie gets executed, but they tolerate the murder of thousands of innocent cats and dogs.


8 posted on 12/17/2005 6:13:09 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: blam; mhking

Just Damn


9 posted on 12/17/2005 6:13:36 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: blam

My dog noticed that I was reading this and hurriedly left the room.


10 posted on 12/17/2005 6:14:01 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: blam

So far as cat pelt suppliers go the authorities need look no farther than the local Peking Moon Restaurant.


11 posted on 12/17/2005 6:14:04 PM PST by Rebelbase (Green bean casserole is a culinary curse upon mankind.)
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To: blam
How should you compliment the wearer?

"Hey, nice pu...!"

12 posted on 12/17/2005 6:14:48 PM PST by DTogo (Merry CHRISTmas, and a healthy & happy New Year!)
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To: blam

I love the feel of the fur on my dogs ears, but this I couldn't imagine.


13 posted on 12/17/2005 6:15:12 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (I miss my dad. Ruudzdistvachxizax^ama ama slum tagadagan inix^sinaa imchix anuxtakus)
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To: blam
"You can find dog fur in shopping centres in Britain labelled as something else. It is a disgusting industry and our advice is simply to avoid all types of fur."

This is reprehensible, but I smell another political agenda coming along for the ride. Expect lots of "dog fur" stories from the PeTA lemmings.
14 posted on 12/17/2005 6:16:00 PM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: blam

I have two words to convey my feelings about this article: BS. No one skins dogs or any other animal alive. killing an animal would not ruin the freshness of the fur, even if you let the animal hang for a day. As I said, BS.


15 posted on 12/17/2005 6:16:28 PM PST by calex59 (Seeing the light shouldn't make you blind...)
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To: FairOpinion

I think PETA is making money off the pelts they harvest from the cats and dogs they kill.


16 posted on 12/17/2005 6:16:34 PM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: blam
PUPPIES?

17 posted on 12/17/2005 6:16:45 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (I miss my dad. Ruudzdistvachxizax^ama ama slum tagadagan inix^sinaa imchix anuxtakus)
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To: blam; Lijahsbubbe; aculeus; dighton
Instead, it has been manufactured from dog fur - possibly from an animal that was drugged and skinned alive to preserve the fur's freshness.


18 posted on 12/17/2005 6:17:09 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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To: blam

The savages of Europe strike again. Animals. When will Europe be civilized? When will the European savage be trained? Some say the European savage is not ready for even democracy, so, socialism or dictatorships is the only resolve.

Poor savages.


19 posted on 12/17/2005 6:17:34 PM PST by Porterville (Keep your communism off my paycheck)
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To: calex59

Good catch. Tanning a skin takes days and pounds of salt (you scrape the skin, stretch it over a board, apply the salt, and let it sit to leech out all the moisture). Guess what? The animal is DEAD during that time. No, really!


20 posted on 12/17/2005 6:19:38 PM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: blam

How do they keep the pelts in such nice shape with strays?

If you go out on any street here in the US, and look at a stray dogs coat, its usually in really bad shape. Insect infestations and skin diseases being very common. Dogs in urban environments almost always seem to have these issues.

I wonder how these dog fur traders get around these problems with the strays?

Actually , I think there are some problems with the story here......Just my opinion.


21 posted on 12/17/2005 6:20:05 PM PST by Bud Krieger
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To: blam
Now, if PETA would get their heads out of their collective bung chutes and just concentrate of issues like this, I could hang with 'em. I even despise maggots who own dogs and make 'em sleep under their porch. If you have a domesticated animal and you are keeping it as a pet, then by God take responsibility for it or get rid of it. Pertaining to domestic pets, I consider the treatment of them as a looking glass into the owner's true soul (or lack thereof), and a benchmark of how much respect they garner as my peer.


22 posted on 12/17/2005 6:21:32 PM PST by Viking2002 (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: blam
This Bulgarian fur, for instance, was incorrectly passed off as "Korean Wolf".

Its wearer was tipped off when a pack of dogs ran up and sniffed her butt.

23 posted on 12/17/2005 6:21:46 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: blam

Can we start accusing the EU of torture now and be done with the abu Ghraib rants? I don't think we skinned any terrorists.


24 posted on 12/17/2005 6:21:53 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: blam
possibly from an animal that was drugged and skinned alive

Or possibly the journalist writing this article is just pulling this speculation out his @$$ and doesn't have a clue what he is writing about. Ever!

25 posted on 12/17/2005 6:22:33 PM PST by joshhiggins
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To: FairOpinion
Horribly cruelty to dogs and cats ping.

Let me state outright that I'm no fan of fur coats in general -- something not quite right about killing stuff just for fur and fashion.

But the premise of this article is somewhat ... unusual. "Skinning them alive to maintain freshness" is a bit beyond belief: looks to me like they're making something up to make it sound worse than it really is. (And they're not just taking pets off the streets, either -- there'd be no market for multi-breed coats.)

26 posted on 12/17/2005 6:22:59 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Bud Krieger

You are spot on, and also strays in eastern Europe would be in far worse condition than American strays, so there goes the flawless gleaming coat.


27 posted on 12/17/2005 6:23:12 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: blam

Bwuahahaha. More 'fake but accurate' BS. Ya, they put cows through meat grinders alive to preserve the freshness too. I'll give the hippie twats a good score for creativity though, oh wait, NOT.


28 posted on 12/17/2005 6:24:38 PM PST by M203M4
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To: FairOpinion

Hope this isn't true. A dog is like a two-year-old. If someone skinned my dog I'd hunt them down and ...


29 posted on 12/17/2005 6:26:50 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: joshhiggins

Similar news from different new sources exist.

http://news.google.com/news?ned=us&scoring=d&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=dog+skinned+alive&btnG=Search+News


30 posted on 12/17/2005 6:27:41 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Where is PETA now?

I think PETA manufactured this story.

31 posted on 12/17/2005 6:30:19 PM PST by Always Right
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To: FairOpinion

Skinning it two minutes after it's dead is still pretty fresh. How inhumane and inexcusable.


32 posted on 12/17/2005 6:31:12 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Sender

Criticize Eastern Europe if you must, but their women used to be great weight lifters.


33 posted on 12/17/2005 6:31:36 PM PST by Hack
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To: calex59
I have two words to convey my feelings about this article: BS. No one skins dogs or any other animal alive. killing an animal would not ruin the freshness of the fur, even if you let the animal hang for a day. As I said, BS.

Exactly, this story is planted by animal rights groups to try to win support for their cause.

34 posted on 12/17/2005 6:31:39 PM PST by Always Right
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To: blam

Gee! Do you think PETA may use the pelts from the animals that they dump after killing them early?


35 posted on 12/17/2005 6:33:12 PM PST by Keyga8tor
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To: blam

I've seen fur jackets that I thought might be dog fur. They had the same hand as the feel of a dog's coat, and they had "made in Korea" or "made in China" labels on them, too. I steered well clear of them.

I don't see how anyone could possibly mistake a sable or mink for dog or cat fur. Qualitatively it's just not in the same ballpark.

Not buying the idea that these are stray dogs. As another poster observed, a stray dog does not have a good coat. But it's very easy to believe that dogs with luxuriant coats would get stolen for this. Dogs are stolen all the time.

Sheesh, if these people would just come over to my house after I vacuum, I'd give them all the dog fur they could possibly want. . .


36 posted on 12/17/2005 6:34:10 PM PST by Capriole (I don't have any problems that can't be solved by more chocolate or more ammunition.)
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To: calex59

My sentiments exactly , Its bullshit, They are trying to stir up emotions with this skinned alive crap. In reality a dog is no different than a cow you use to make your shoes or belt with. All are animal products. Because so many Americans keep dogs for pets they get all excited when certain countries eat them or use their skin.Personally I wouldnt use dog fur because I have similar feelings, but if a Korean is hungry then fine eat the dog, if a Brit is cold put on the dog. pun intended.


37 posted on 12/17/2005 6:34:30 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Windcatcher

Yep, my mom used to make moccasins out of rabbit skins and it wasn't easy getting the skins ready for sewing into the footwear! Skinning something alive makes no sense what so ever and this is just propaganda.


38 posted on 12/17/2005 6:35:28 PM PST by calex59 (Seeing the light shouldn't make you blind...)
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To: Always Right

39 posted on 12/17/2005 6:36:46 PM PST by M203M4
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To: Always Right

I see at least 14 separate pelts in the picture with identical color balance. Sorry, but this story is BS. If they're strays, they would have to go through an incredible amount of cats to achieve this. I'm tempted to crop them out and check the color curves of each one. There is no way this isn't manufactured, unless someone actually bleached the pelts to 100% white and then airbrushed them to make them look the same (yeah, right). Totally manufactured is right.


40 posted on 12/17/2005 6:36:50 PM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: calex59

"I have two words to convey my feelings about this article: BS. No one skins dogs or any other animal alive. killing an animal would not ruin the freshness of the fur, even if you let the animal hang for a day. As I said, BS."

Yup, I think this one ranks right up there with the "Banzai Kittens" hoax that was going around a couple of years ago.


41 posted on 12/17/2005 6:43:31 PM PST by CrazyIvan (If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
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To: blam
Dogs? Who gives a rip? But CATS?!

Nuke 'em.

:-)

42 posted on 12/17/2005 6:43:59 PM PST by manwiththehands ("Merry Christmas .... and Happy New Year ... you can take your seat now ...")
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To: Hack

I've seen them. At 16, they are beauties. At 30, they are bench pressing small naval vessels. At 45, they are babushkas.


43 posted on 12/17/2005 6:46:52 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: FairOpinion

That's who they buy the dogs from


44 posted on 12/17/2005 6:47:11 PM PST by kentj
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To: CrazyIvan

Skinning an animal alive would destroy the pelt 100% of the time. Struggling animals tend to get blood all over the pelt (bye bye, fur), and would make it impossible to make clean cuts. The more I look at this story, the more convinced I am that it's a 100% manufactured LIE. It simply doesn't hold water.


45 posted on 12/17/2005 6:48:02 PM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: calex59

I was just going to post this same observation but you have done it the credit it deserves - BS. "Freshness", if that were even a valid concept, would be more a function of the season the animal was in and the treatement of the pelt before it was tanned.


46 posted on 12/17/2005 6:53:33 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
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To: FairOpinion

and hundreds of millions of pre born children and....young
children who doctors or social workers determine have disabilites...too difficult for the social workers or doctors
to live with...

They should consult the Ed Gein handbook on skinning people
for fine leather goods like gloves and handbags...even lampshades...


47 posted on 12/17/2005 6:54:25 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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To: blam

Skinning animals alive...their pain makes a nice sacrifice to allah...


48 posted on 12/17/2005 6:55:28 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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To: blam

Spot?


49 posted on 12/17/2005 6:57:46 PM PST by woofie
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To: FairOpinion
It seems like the "skinned alive" stories all seem to be coming from the same PETA sources. Not entirely credible in my book. They've been known to produce their own animal torture videos to illustrate their case. I have no doubt China is using Dog and Cat fur, but anything coming from PETA is dubious.

Model-turned-activist HEATHER MILLS McCARTNEY is furious with Chinese officials after watching hours of video footage of dogs and cats being skinned alive for their fur.

Animal rights group People For the Ethical Treatment of Animals obtained the footage after infiltrating a Chinese dog and cat 'warehouse' this summer (05) and Mills McCartney has agreed to air the harrowing video on her website.

But Mills McCartney, who lost her leg in a motorbike accident, admits that watching the footage made her furious with Chinese officials who refuse to outlaw the "barbaric" practice - because she feels for the animal victims.

She fumes, "We watched hours of it (footage) and the dog is still alive for 20 minutes, it's still blinking and shaking and just in total shock.

"I know, from losing my leg... the endorphin and the adrenalin rushes in and you feel the pain but then you're just in absolute shock.

"It's (dog) lying there in complete shock and then they just throw it on another pile of flesh."

Mills McCartney has also exploded the myth that the Chinese eat dog flesh, despite reports to the contrary.

She adds, "The dog that they eat and have the meat from, they don't use its skin or its fur, and the dog whose skin and fur is used, they don't eat the meat. It's barbaric."

Like I'm supposed to believe that the Chinese can't figure out how to use the meat from an animal the've skinned for it's fur, or use the fur from an animal they are going to use for meat? This is not credible.

50 posted on 12/17/2005 6:59:24 PM PST by joshhiggins
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