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Student Gets Surprise From Mao's Book
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Posted on 12/18/2005 12:13:41 AM PST by Deek1969

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To: Deek1969

Years ago when my eldest son was 7, he was into ham radio and spoke with someone in Cuba. Before long they sent him Mao's little red book. I joked that he'd be on the FBI's watch list.


51 posted on 12/18/2005 6:17:35 AM PST by hershey
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To: Deek1969

I can't imagine the book wasn't on the shelves at a University.
If the report is true it seems the book had little to do with the visit and more to do with the phone calls to nations where there are large groups of Muslim terrorists.


53 posted on 12/18/2005 7:35:23 AM PST by em2vn
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To: FreedomCalls
"Or posted comments here?"

In answer to your question, please remember that when a Dr. Ken Meyers, an ornithologist working for Big Cypress National Preserve (BCNP) and a Debbe Jansen, also from BCNP decided they didn't like my research, they forced their way into the research blinds.

When I returned, I found "WE ARE WATCHING YOU" scrawled on the wall.

All too many goobers in the gooberment feel that they can do no wrong AND that they are on some sort of a mission.

For those of you who wonder just how far these bachelor's children will go, go to www.evergladesinstitute.org, and carefully listen to the 'crats attacking a property owner.

The audio of ParcPerson Jansen is also an eye opener in that she admits (on camera) to subjecting citizens to predator risks with no thought of their well being whatsoever.

Then she admits to providing "protection" for a government site but not for the public or the Indians.

The leaked interagency documents at the same site are also an eye opener as the Chief of that tribe hits a home run - right between the ParcPerson's eyes.

I'd be curious as to what any Freeper who visits that site thinks.
54 posted on 12/18/2005 7:50:10 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: television is just wrong

If I remember correctly it is due to the Echelon program...


55 posted on 12/18/2005 7:56:00 AM PST by Born in a Rage
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To: Deek1969

I don't believe the story at all.


56 posted on 12/18/2005 7:57:00 AM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: Deek1969
The student, who was completing a research paper on Communism for Pontbriand's class on fascism and totalitarianism, filled out a form for the request, leaving his name, address, phone number and Social Security number. [emphasis added]

Riiight. I do that all the time.

57 posted on 12/18/2005 8:00:21 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: T.L.Sink
I'm on the staff of a public library in Southern California, and I saw to it that Mao: The Untold Story was added to our collection.
58 posted on 12/18/2005 8:14:25 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: quefstar

Actually, the wall will be going up here, not over there..., but I get what you mean.

We are, if nothing is done to change the direction of things, changing places with Russia. We are continually going socialist, with our social programs. We sympathize with the dead wood of society and the down trodden. However, the ultra rich, want the middle class to be taxed for it, not themselves.

The Kennedys paid a pittance when the old man died on the estate they should have paid several millions for. (just one example.

Kerry, Gore, and others are another example. He and Gore want all of us to drive smaller cars while they drive whatever they darn well want, or their chauffeurs taxi them around in.

Different standards, equal the wealth, but NOT FOR THEM. Only for us. (the middle class).


59 posted on 12/18/2005 9:39:54 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Deek1969

I find this almost laughable. Do you really think that a prominent Ivy League college woulnd't have some copies of Mao's works in their library?

I've found them in our college library (a subsidiary of Houston University) and checked them out without any fuss.

Perhaps there are other, more meaningful, reasons why this gentleman has been talked to by the authorities.?


60 posted on 12/18/2005 10:37:25 AM PST by wildbill
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To: hiredhand; planekT; glock rocks; Pete-R-Bilt; Brad's Gramma; yoe; Iowa Granny; Jackie222; ...

ping


61 posted on 12/19/2005 6:23:10 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: B4Ranch

I don't believe the story at all. I think it's agitprop, similar to made up "racist vandalism" agitprop.


62 posted on 12/19/2005 7:34:27 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Deek1969

This is very, very frightening. What's more frightening is that when I scroll down this thread to read the responses, a lot of people are going to be cheering having government spy on what people are reading. I wonder what president hillary will consider "subversive reading material" and who will be on her "watch list?"


63 posted on 12/19/2005 7:38:03 AM PST by mysterio
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To: Gribbles141
>I checked out Revenge of the Sith, hardcover, and about 2 days later got a little visit from homeland security and Mace Windu

Well, I guess that means
I will be spending today
driving around to

local libraries
taking out all copies of
both Pamela books . . .


64 posted on 12/19/2005 7:40:41 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Sir Gawain
Any freepers that defend this action better keep their hypocrital mouths shut when Democrats abuse this power against conservatives.

I agree -- IF this really happened at all. Failing to name the student sets off alarms in my head.

65 posted on 12/19/2005 7:43:38 AM PST by Sloth (Freedom of speech doesn't mean the rest of us have to shut up.)
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To: Deek1969
This story sounds fishy as hell to me. First, I can't imagine any decent sized university that would not already have Mao's rants in their collection. Second, it's available in it's entirety, Online.
66 posted on 12/19/2005 7:53:41 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Eagles Talon IV
Wait a minute. Who says this even happened? He refuses to release his own name? How about the names of the agents he was allegedly interviewed by? I do not for one minute put it past lefties to completely fabricate a story such as this, not for ONE minute.

My BS meter went off too. There are no sources. In fact, I would bet this whole story is fabricated.

67 posted on 12/19/2005 8:01:36 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: mysterio
"This is very, very frightening."

No, this is very, very B.S.

"What's more frightening is that when I scroll down this thread to read the responses, a lot of people are going to be cheering having government spy on what people are reading."

I haven't been getting that from what I've read in the threads on this story. I've seen the majority of posters question the legitimacy of this story, and I've seen a couple of libertarians hyperventilating. I have not seen anyone openly cheer the government watching people who are checking out Mao's book. I have seen one thing occasionally that is disturbing on these threads. I have seen a could of libertarians taking a newspaper story and the testimony of a couple of professors as unimpeachable, and then immediately running to the top of the soap box to proclaim their horror. I really don't understand why any self respecting libertarian would use this story as their battle cry for freedom.
68 posted on 12/19/2005 10:24:35 AM PST by dbehsman (One Wellstone memorial (rave party) is enough, thank you!)
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To: Deek1969
He was later visited at his parents' home in New Bedford by two agents of the Department of Homeland Security, the professors told the Standard-Times. The professors said the student was told by the agents that the book is on a "watch list," and that his background, which included significant time abroad, triggered them to investigate the student further.

Good. Nice to know DHS is doing its job.

Of course, the MSM would have us believe that even an investigation amounts to shocking, reprehensible abuse of an American citizen by thugs in black helicopters.

69 posted on 12/19/2005 10:29:52 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: Deek1969

This entire article is NOT passing the smell test. What's the student's name? What were the names of the agents? Has the reporter actually seen the inter-library request? And why on earth would someone need to check out "Little Red Book" via an inter-library loan when the dang thing is available online from thousands of sources. This is usually reserved for books that are rare or hard to come by, not something so readily availble as Mao's "work".


70 posted on 12/19/2005 10:32:35 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: didi; KarlInOhio

It is perfectly acceptable to cite an Internet source. Most (American) professors recognize this since Harbrace released the edition with instructions on citing Internet sources.


71 posted on 12/19/2005 10:40:45 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: 1rudeboy
Riiight. I do that all the time.

You wouldn't believe the college students out there who put their Social on fairly public documents (tests, papers, etc) as a matter of habit. In the last class my wife taught, nearly 3/4 of the students wrote their Social right under their name. I almost had a heart attack the first one I saw, and did convulse just a little bit when I found that almost all of them did it.

72 posted on 12/19/2005 10:45:07 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: numberonepal

I must say that I almost had a heart attack when I read your post there too.

Do these kids even realize what their setting themselves up for?!?!?!?!

YIKES!


73 posted on 12/19/2005 11:10:47 AM PST by dbehsman (NRA Life member and loving every minute of it!)
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To: dbehsman
Do these kids even realize what their setting themselves up for?

These kids are apparently growing up thinking that privacy isn't something they will enjoy. They have also been trained in the Gumint Indoctrination Centers that your Social is not private. Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

74 posted on 12/19/2005 11:18:57 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: numberonepal; dbehsman; 1rudeboy
>You wouldn't believe the college students out there who put their Social on fairly public documents

I don't know about
nowadays, but at college
in the 70s,

the main ID was
your social security
number, and the school

based ALL its tracking
on it, ALWAYS asked for it.
It was just normal

for students -- back then --
to put it on everything.
At least at my schools.

75 posted on 12/19/2005 11:19:26 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

Sure your Social was on all official school forms, but I'd never seen kids turning in work with there Social on it before that.

They tried to make your DL# here in GA your Social, and that didn't fly too well with the voters.


76 posted on 12/19/2005 1:38:06 PM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: Kay Syrah
" They brought the book with them, but did not leave it with the student, the professors said.

Maybe they were Communist recruiters posing as Homeland Security agents.

Make at least as much sense as the other drivel in the story.

77 posted on 12/21/2005 3:02:55 PM PST by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: Sir Gawain

I'm sorry but you can not equate the writings of Mao, Marx and Hitler with those of Madison and Hamilton.


78 posted on 12/21/2005 3:32:04 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Good Call!!!!


79 posted on 12/25/2005 6:16:34 AM PST by paltz
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To: Deek1969
Everyone here IS aware by now that this entire story was a fabrication and that none of it ever happened, right?

The student from UMass Dartmouth has now admitted to having made up the entire story of his having been visited by Homeland Security representatives.

Official follow up story by the same author

80 posted on 12/25/2005 6:35:22 AM PST by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: Lloyd227
Everyone here IS aware by now that this entire story was a fabrication and that none of it ever happened, right?

The student from UMass Dartmouth has now admitted to having made up the entire story of his having been visited by Homeland Security representatives.

probably...I bumped the thread, b/c many freepers here suspected the guy was telling a whopper before it was reported.

81 posted on 12/25/2005 6:39:49 AM PST by paltz
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To: paltz

Thank you.


82 posted on 12/25/2005 7:16:10 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (I strongly condemn violence against adulterous gay cannibals.)
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