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Polar bears drown as ice shelf melts
The Sunday Times ^ | December 18, 2005 | Will Iredale

Posted on 12/18/2005 9:46:23 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK

SCIENTISTS have for the first time found evidence that polar bears are drowning because climate change is melting the Arctic ice shelf.

The researchers were startled to find bears having to swim up to 60 miles across open sea to find food. They are being forced into the long voyages because the ice floes from which they feed are melting, becoming smaller and drifting farther apart.

Although polar bears are strong swimmers, they are adapted for swimming close to the shore. Their sea journeys leave them them vulnerable to exhaustion, hypothermia or being swamped by waves

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1 posted on 12/18/2005 9:46:23 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Bush's fault!!!


2 posted on 12/18/2005 9:47:14 AM PST by JRios1968 ("Cogito, ergo FReep": I think, therefore I FReep.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Women and minority polar bears hardest hit.


3 posted on 12/18/2005 9:47:33 AM PST by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
SCIENTISTS have for the first time found evidence that polar bears are drowning because climate change is aliens are melting the Arctic ice shelf.

I love question-begging assertions about what's causing what.

4 posted on 12/18/2005 9:47:48 AM PST by Shalom Israel (Well, I got better...)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
polar bears are drowning....

Sounds like survival of the fittest to me!

5 posted on 12/18/2005 9:48:17 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

They need to hook up with the penguins who WALK 70 miles, numerous times, just to reproduce.

(shameless plug for "March of the Penguins")


6 posted on 12/18/2005 9:49:50 AM PST by digger48
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To: JRios1968
I knew that was coming i just didn't know it would be that fast

lmao
7 posted on 12/18/2005 9:49:55 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Bingo. If this is true, the smart ones will just move a little further south. The even smarter ones will stay away from people.

Maybe since the envirowackos are telling us that all our landfills are being filled up we should move all our garbage to the Arctic. Polar Bear buffet! They'll be rubbing up against it and making cute little polar bear cubs!


8 posted on 12/18/2005 9:50:25 AM PST by Siegfried The Red (Subgeniuses are the last TRUE Americans!)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
We watched MARCH OF THE PENGUINS last night.

Most amazing and extremely stunning!!

As Antartica has drifted south for millions of years, native penguins have adapted to the most extreme weather on earth.

One common thread connects all creatures through eons on this planet.

ADAPT OR DIE

9 posted on 12/18/2005 9:51:26 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (expell the fat arrogant carcasses of Congress)
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To: JennysCool
"Women and minority polar bears hardest hit."

Yeah! I understand that black polar bears aren't even allowed to sit at the diner.

10 posted on 12/18/2005 9:51:48 AM PST by NicknamedBob (To all my FRiends on Free Republic, *Merry Christmas*,& to all my Jewish Friends, *Merry Christmas*)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

IF this were not a global warming story, it would normlly be presented to amaze us with how far the polar bears can swim. 60 miles?? In an arctic rich with food for them? And this is because the ice is melting? I think not. I do not believe that a polar bear cannot find food for 60 miles of open ocean.


11 posted on 12/18/2005 9:52:33 AM PST by Williams
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

When the Sun finally causes climate change, the seacoasts of Canada and Alaska as well as the Hudson's Bay area will become warm holiday resorts.

An excess of agressive polar bears would hurt the tourist trade. Gaia knows all and operates in mysterious ways.


12 posted on 12/18/2005 9:52:41 AM PST by wildbill
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Regardless of whether or not you belive that man caused global warming, this is a real problem. Climate change is real and we need to deal with it.


13 posted on 12/18/2005 9:52:47 AM PST by conserv13
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To: digger48
(shameless plug for "March of the Penguins")

I bought that for one of my 9 yo twins for Christmas, who likes her nick "penguin". And no, she's not a nun.

14 posted on 12/18/2005 9:52:49 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (I miss my dad. Ruudzdistvachxizax^ama ama slum tagadagan inix^sinaa imchix anuxtakus)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

I have made it into a routine now! :-)


15 posted on 12/18/2005 9:53:35 AM PST by JRios1968 ("Cogito, ergo FReep": I think, therefore I FReep.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
They are being forced into the long voyages because the ice floes from which they feed are melting, becoming smaller and drifting farther apart.

Although polar bears are strong swimmers, they are adapted for swimming close to the shore. Their sea journeys leave them them vulnerable to exhaustion, hypothermia or being swamped by waves.

That's too bad, if the report is accurate. I always liked to watch video of polar bears. Hard to believe they could even survive in that environment.

16 posted on 12/18/2005 9:54:07 AM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: Shalom Israel
SCIENTISTS have for the first time found evidence that polar bears are drowning because climate change is aliens are melting the Arctic ice shelf.

Many Democrats are actually alien invaders attempting to terraform planet earth.

Most of the Democrat leaders in Congress could very easily star in MEN IN BLACK 3.

17 posted on 12/18/2005 9:54:11 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (expell the fat arrogant carcasses of Congress)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Well, maybe peta should spend some time saving the PB's instead of rolling around in a wheelchair dressed like a chicken in NC


18 posted on 12/18/2005 9:54:58 AM PST by ChefKeith (Flies,fleas,ants,ticks,cockroaches,lawyers & politicians- All the same. Useless!!!)
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To: wildbill

I'm sure in the millions of years the Earth has been around there have been many climate changes. How we deal with this one is up to us.


19 posted on 12/18/2005 9:55:05 AM PST by conserv13
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To: NicknamedBob
"Women and minority polar bears hardest hit."

Yeah! I understand that black polar bears aren't even allowed to sit at the diner.

The key here is, the white polar bears need to start hiring more illegal immigrant mexican polar bears, or start outsourcing to polar bears from India and China.

20 posted on 12/18/2005 9:55:21 AM PST by JRios1968 ("Cogito, ergo FReep": I think, therefore I FReep.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
"The researchers returned to the vicinity a few days later after a fierce storm and found four dead bears floating in the water."

Duh.

21 posted on 12/18/2005 9:57:22 AM PST by Williams
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Polar bears drown as...

Sounds like a new Government program is in order. We need a PBWSC to offer these poor bears. The new "Polar Bear Water Safety Course", to be taught by the Red Cross, will teach these bears how to tread water longer, and swim more efficiently. The smarter-than-average bears will receive a patch - they can sew it on their fur - that will allow them to teach other bears, thus self-sustaining this new and valuable program.

22 posted on 12/18/2005 9:59:12 AM PST by C210N (While DOGS Have MASTERS, CATS Have STAFF!)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

I thought polar bears could swim...


23 posted on 12/18/2005 10:00:06 AM PST by Cricket24 ("We have met the enemy and it's the U.S. press (and the democrats and some Republicans)!")
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To: Fierce Allegiance

A movie well worth watching! For the whole family!


24 posted on 12/18/2005 10:00:44 AM PST by digger48
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To: conserv13

Or, one might consider, that it is all a natural process. An ebb and flow. The same open water might be providing expanded habitat for whales and other marine life.

I am sure some seals are not too shook up that going up for air doesn't have to mean a quick dart for a bubble of air up through a twelve inch hole in the ice guarded by a fat polar bear.

In nature, the glass is always full..the content of which is for study.


25 posted on 12/18/2005 10:01:07 AM PST by LearsKent
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To: Cricket24
I thought polar bears could swim...

Like humans, they can. But try swimming 10 miles sometime.

26 posted on 12/18/2005 10:04:20 AM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
The researchers were startled to find bears having to swim up to 60 miles across open sea to find food. They are being forced into the long voyages because the ice floes from which they feed are melting, becoming smaller and drifting farther apart.

As far as I know, white bear will always follow the ice and not launch himself out to sea. This seems, to me, to be very bogus "research".

27 posted on 12/18/2005 10:10:13 AM PST by eskimo (Bush on the Constitution: "It's just a goddamned piece of paper.")
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To: NicknamedBob

"Yeah! I understand that black polar bears aren't even allowed to sit at the diner."

I forget where I read it, but I will look around...but I have read that technically polar bears fur is not "white" Now I am bugged and will be so until I confirm it,,,,Damn it!


28 posted on 12/18/2005 10:14:27 AM PST by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Think of it as evolution in action. The bears that can survive the 60-mile swim will be the ones who pass on the genes for such ability. Who knows: in time we may see another aquatic mammal evolve from the polar bear.

By the way, the end of the last Ice Age? Ogg's fault.


29 posted on 12/18/2005 10:15:41 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: commonasdirt

Black skin, Clear or translucent hair


30 posted on 12/18/2005 10:16:06 AM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: conserv13

The idea that we can change the climate, whether for the warmer or the cooler, is nonsense. The climate of the Earth has been changing for billions of years, not because of or in spite of man. We are NOT going to alter that.


31 posted on 12/18/2005 10:17:11 AM PST by Laserman
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To: conserv13
Regardless of whether or not you belive that man caused global warming, this is a real problem. Climate change is real and we need to deal with it.

I've purchased a pair of shorts, sun block, and use more ice in my drinks. What have you done to cool the planet?

32 posted on 12/18/2005 10:17:39 AM PST by SampleMan
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To: conserv13
Regardless of whether or not you belive that man caused global warming, this is a real problem. Climate change is real and we need to deal with it.

We can no more change the long term weather patterns than we can prevent our sun fom dying billions of years from now. We'll deal with the results, so long as God allows it.

33 posted on 12/18/2005 10:18:11 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: conserv13

Actually, how we deal with this climate situation is not up to us.

If science has taught us anything about climate changes of the earth over millions of years, it is that man's puny actions have virtually no influence on our climate.

Most climate arguments that predicate change of the environment on the actions of humans soon fall by the wayside when exposed to true scientic inquiry. Remember the exhortations about the coming 'nuclear winter' about 30 years ago? Simply another fad theory.


34 posted on 12/18/2005 10:19:01 AM PST by wildbill
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
SCIENTISTS have for the first time found evidence that polar bears are drowning because climate change is melting the Arctic ice shelf.

I'd like to know what the "evidence' is, especially the evidence that the arctic ice shelf is melting in December. Heck, I can't even get my driveway in Ohio to melt.

35 posted on 12/18/2005 10:20:18 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Jigsaw John
It is a very good swimmer and spends a lot of time in the water hunting for seals. The polar bear can swim as far as 60 miles without resting and can swim at speeds of up to six miles an hour. It can dive to depths of 15 feet and can stay under water for about two minutes.

Im betting on the aliens.

36 posted on 12/18/2005 10:21:08 AM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: wildbill

Although I agree with your argument, I am applying for a very hefty grant, nonetheless! ;)


37 posted on 12/18/2005 10:21:45 AM PST by LearsKent
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

"SCIENTISTS have for the first time found evidence that polar bears are drowning because climate change is melting the Arctic ice shelf."

This is good news for the seals.


38 posted on 12/18/2005 10:23:27 AM PST by BadAndy (The DemocRATs are the enemy's most effective weapon.)
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To: conserv13
Climate change is real and we need to deal with it.

If so we will by the same way it has been done for the last 15,000 years - by moving inland.
39 posted on 12/18/2005 10:25:07 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

doesn't their prey have to make simular adjustments?


40 posted on 12/18/2005 10:26:42 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

if bears are drowning, are seals drying out?


41 posted on 12/18/2005 10:27:46 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: BadAndy
So these cruel scientists followed the bears out into 60 miles of open sea to watch them drown.

Where is PETA and the environazis when you need them.

Those cute little bears should have been plucked right out of that ocean and returned to land pronto.

42 posted on 12/18/2005 10:29:12 AM PST by spokeshave (A return to unified Democratic government is so unlikely as not to be worth considering)
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To: JRios1968
The key here is, the white polar bears need to start hiring more illegal immigrant mexican polar bears, or start outsourcing to polar bears from India and China.

LOL! Fishing for salmon that native-born polar bears won't fish for.

43 posted on 12/18/2005 10:30:40 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: conserv13

Okay, I'm ready to join you to stop global warming. What's your plan? Can we be done in a year? How much are we going to warm up the earth? RSVP


44 posted on 12/18/2005 10:31:06 AM PST by Freeper john
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To: conserv13
Climate change has been going on for thousands of years and now it is a problem?
45 posted on 12/18/2005 10:33:21 AM PST by Recon by Fire
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To: Laserman

The climate of the earth has been changing for billions of years on its own, but that does not mean people cannot have affected it in recent times. Just doesn't logically follow.


46 posted on 12/18/2005 10:33:58 AM PST by redboiling
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To: conserv13

The issue of whether or not man is at fault for any alleged global warming is the fulcrum of the entire debate.

If man is not at fault, what do you propose can possibly be done to reverse a natural tide?

Those who assert man is at fault, have a long list of behavioral changes to "solve" the problem. The nature of that list is predominantly Marxist. Odd that in nearly every country where Marx's theories have been and are being put to the test, man's behavior that allegedly contributes to global warming is at its worst.


47 posted on 12/18/2005 10:33:58 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: conserv13
"Regardless of whether or not you believe that man caused global warming, this is a real problem. Climate change is real and we need to deal with it.

The best way to "deal with it" is to adapt to it. It is a naturally occurring process. Get used to it. If it's getting too warm where you live, put on a hat. If it's getting too cold, put on a sweater. (or a parka) For that matter, you could move someplace where the climate is more to your liking.
48 posted on 12/18/2005 10:34:07 AM PST by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: commonasdirt

Yes, I had heard that, too. The hollow fibers act as light guides to direct the warmth down to the bear's skin.

http://www.jayp.net/trivia/animal01.htm

About two thirds of the way down. It just says that the bear's fur is clear. Other interesting tidbits, though.


49 posted on 12/18/2005 10:38:25 AM PST by NicknamedBob (To all my FRiends on Free Republic, *Merry Christmas*,& to all my Jewish Friends, *Merry Christmas*)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Sounds like it's one of those "Circle of Life" kind of things.


50 posted on 12/18/2005 10:38:49 AM PST by dfwgator
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