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(Vanity) FreeRepublic Folding@Home Project Update (We're in the Top 1,450)
Folding @ Home Stat Page ^ | 12/17/05 | me

Posted on 12/18/2005 10:03:55 AM PST by texas booster

OK, new thread for the next week.

First, a big shout out to the SETI members who have added CPUs to the effort. Remember, its Team 36120, NOT Team 0.

Next, congrats to all for bumping our team up to 65 processors. ArgentCent is the latest to have joined our happy band of folders and jumps in at # 36 with his first completed WU. We now have 51 members in the team, and about 45 active participants.

Malsua, uriah and Ken in Texas are solidly in the top 10. One of these will probably be the new Numero Uno in a couple of weeks, barring newcomers borging dozens of unsuspecting systems (not that there's anything wrong with that!)

Daily Production Graph

On the global front, Free Republic Folders is now listed at # 1448. We are poised to overtake (today) Kami Sacred Folding Team, buzzez, Naptune, PCSilencieux and Team Razorsh*g.

The only competition coming up on us is still QHT HPC. They are out producing us by about 1,000 points per day. As we gain members from the 100,000 FReepers that visit JimRob's place I expect that we will prevail and keep our lead.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Technical
KEYWORDS: computing; cure; disease; distributed; fah; fh; folding; foldingathome; foldinghome; prions; proteins; seti; software; stanford; stanforduniversity; tech
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Milestones we will soon mark:

Top 1400 on Monday Dec 19

Top 1300 on Thursday Dec 22

Top 1200 on Monday Dec 26

Top 1100 on Friday Dec 30

Top 1000 on Wednesday Jan 4, just in time to see UT whup USC.

1 posted on 12/18/2005 10:03:56 AM PST by texas booster
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To: texas booster

BOINC needs some serious changes to their interface. I know trained IT people who won't use it because it's so awkward.


2 posted on 12/18/2005 10:08:10 AM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: texas booster

Bump.


3 posted on 12/18/2005 10:08:40 AM PST by Rocko (this post kills fascists...and communists)
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To: texas booster

Ok stupid question here, I've dumped Seti and am trying to signup to folding. I need to know the URL to copy and paste to BOINC. Do you know what URL I should enter?


4 posted on 12/18/2005 10:11:07 AM PST by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: A.Hun; ambrose; Beelzebubba; Blood of Tyrants; Bob; brityank; Cagey; CarrotAndStick; CFC__VRWC; ...

Ping to new Folding @ Home thread.

Please contact Texas Booster or soccer_maniac if you want on or off this list.


5 posted on 12/18/2005 10:11:53 AM PST by texas booster (Bless the legal immigrants!)
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To: Slicksadick

See my post #2. My advice is to give up in protest, and save yourself a couple of fruitless hours.

Maybe they'll get the hint out in Berkeley...


6 posted on 12/18/2005 10:12:42 AM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: SteveMcKing

BOINC will get better with time and money.

Time, because programmers need it.

Money, because it uses government grants.

(Ducking for cover)


7 posted on 12/18/2005 10:13:56 AM PST by texas booster (Bless the legal immigrants!)
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To: texas booster

What kind of timeframe is typical for completing a workunit?


8 posted on 12/18/2005 10:20:15 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Why does everyone want to be Frank? What's wrong with being John or Pete?)
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To: Slicksadick

Folding @ Home has a beta BOINC client, but they have chosen not to release it because of problems with the network.

Download the F@H client here:

http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html

run it and enter your desired name in "User Name", and "36120" in the team number place. You will then get credit for your work.

Do not leave the team number as 0, for that drops into Anonymous, the biggest group in any distributed project.

Of course, you could always enter "Texas Booster" for your user name, especially if you have a really fast machine ...


9 posted on 12/18/2005 10:21:03 AM PST by texas booster (Bless the legal immigrants!)
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To: Professional Engineer

I understand that Work Units are dispursed based upon machine speed, so that WUs get completed in a week or so. This keeps WUs fresh from a scientific POV.

I have an AMD 3000 with a fast NVidia video card. Most of my units are about 3500 steps and take a couple of days. My present WU is 250 steps and will be finished in just over a day.

One's first WU is normally a bit smaller than normal.


10 posted on 12/18/2005 10:24:46 AM PST by texas booster (Bless the legal immigrants!)
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To: texas booster

Arrrgh! If only it were a BOINC project.

I could have tossed 70+ systems into the pool.


11 posted on 12/18/2005 10:26:29 AM PST by ExDemSince92 (/* You are not expected to understand this */)
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To: Professional Engineer

For a ~ 1Gig processor workunits are completed in one to five days running 24/7 depending on the size of the work unit. With eight processors running 24/7, I was getting ~ 2500 points/week. Now I'm only doing one processor about 4 to 6 hr/day - 2% of previous effort.


12 posted on 12/18/2005 10:29:10 AM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: texas booster

I've put this on my CAD station. The WU I have is 500 steps.


13 posted on 12/18/2005 10:29:54 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Why does everyone want to be Frank? What's wrong with being John or Pete?)
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To: texas booster

my team 36837 isnt doing too bad either http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36837


14 posted on 12/18/2005 10:30:07 AM PST by prophetic
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To: texas booster

I think you do a lot better with "recruiting" here on FR if you'd explain what it is your doing. I don't have a clue other than you're looking for computers to help you do something. Security issues are a concern though.


15 posted on 12/18/2005 10:35:35 AM PST by jwh_Denver (I'd rather be daytrading.)
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To: ExDemSince92

Hey, feel free to toss CPUs our way. If you can borg that many CPUs you be in front in no time.


16 posted on 12/18/2005 10:36:51 AM PST by texas booster (Bless the legal immigrants!)
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To: Professional Engineer

Thanks mucho. CAD workstations do very well on this, fast processor, fast video and lots of RAM.

Now if you can run it 24/7 without any other processes getting in the way ...


17 posted on 12/18/2005 10:38:26 AM PST by texas booster (Bless the legal immigrants!)
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To: SteveMcKing

I did give up after more than a couple of hours. Ugh!
I've been running Seti software since '99, with 20,000 hrs of machine time. When I D/L'd BOINC I have no credit showing and Seti has not credited any time since mid-November. WTH, I quit. I can't get anything to do anything afer setting up project!

FRegards


18 posted on 12/18/2005 10:40:28 AM PST by citabria (Zoom, zoom, Boom, boom)
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To: prophetic

Not bad production at all. With the number of points ya'll generate with only 150 processors you stand a very good chance of being Top 100 fairly soon.

Let me guess - you are FoldnUpnGoenHome? Great name!


19 posted on 12/18/2005 10:40:40 AM PST by texas booster (Bless the legal immigrants!)
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To: texas booster

I signed up, will give it a try. Got a 500000 step work unit to run on my dual processor G4, so we'lll see how that goes. Can't run it if it slows down my work during the week, but I'll see how it runs tonight.


20 posted on 12/18/2005 10:48:35 AM PST by RetroSexual
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To: texas booster

Just added one machine to the team.


21 posted on 12/18/2005 10:53:23 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: jwh_Denver
One of us will post a much better explanation than this quickie.

Protein folding is used by geneticists to pinpoint locations on molecules that can be used to produce better medicines, etc. The sheer number of proteins in the body, and the huge number of ways that a protein can fold overwhelm any single computer in existence. It happens that the best way to solve the repetitious problems is large numbers of processors splitting up a problem. Hence, distributed computing.

F@H started out as the Genome@Home project, which ended a few years ago. The granddaddy of all distributed applications is SETI, where thousands of computers spend their unused CPU cycles searching radio signals for signs of extraterrestial life. Most participants of F@H feel that helping research on protein folding has a more immediate return.

People (especially geeks) being what we are, soon Stanford had a group competing with Caltech for bragging rights (my Folder is bigger than your folder) and teams were born.

***************

As far as security, I know of no breach ever of any distributed project. Here is the official discussion on security from the FAQs on F@H:

What about security issues? We have worked very hard to maintain the best security possible with modern computer science methodology. Our software will upload and download data only from our data server here at Stanford. The Cores are also digitally signed (see below) to make sure that you're getting the true Stanford cores and nothing else.

How is this possible? We take extensive measures to check all of the data entering your computer and the results we send back to Stanford with 2048 bit digital signatures. If the signatures don't match (on either the input or the output) the client will throw away the data and start again. This ensures, using the best software security measures developed to date (digital signatures and PKI in version 3.0), that we are keeping the tightest possible security. Finally, the client/screen saver are available for download only from this web site, so that we can guarantee the integrity of the software. We do not support Folding@home software obtained elsewhere and prohibit others to distribute the software.

22 posted on 12/18/2005 10:55:08 AM PST by texas booster (Bless the legal immigrants!)
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To: citabria

Please give F@H a try. I have used incarnations going back to the Genome@Home project, and it seems very stable.

You are not the only BOINC user to despair. Eventually they will have their problems ironed out, but that day is not here yet.


23 posted on 12/18/2005 10:57:37 AM PST by texas booster (Bless the legal immigrants!)
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To: texas booster
Thanks for the jumpstart, TB. I'd gradually withdrawn from SETI (with 25000+ units), but had been "fixin' to" get FAH going...

I've got two XP boxes on it now, and will have three more going soon if the Linux client will run under emulation on FreeBSD machine.

umbagi

24 posted on 12/18/2005 10:59:05 AM PST by umbagi (The Duke of Earle: greatest prosecutor since Jim Garrison)
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To: RetroSexual

I have work machines set to 50% to 75% maximum cycles during the week. My personal owrk computer does mostly DB inquiries, and that one of set to max - 95% all the time.

No noticible problems at all, since F@H drops to 0% when I run other processes.

Dual processor systems usually score very well in F@H work units.


25 posted on 12/18/2005 11:00:51 AM PST by texas booster (Bless the legal immigrants!)
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To: umbagi

I was not aware that the Linux client had to run under emulation? Can't it run directly?


26 posted on 12/18/2005 11:02:41 AM PST by texas booster (Bless the legal immigrants!)
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To: texas booster
Won't it need Linux emulation to run on FreeBSD? I'll give it a shot later this afternoon...

Meanwhile, I've put a third 3.2ghz XP box up, subject to FAH getting out of my way on demand as well as the SETI client always did.

u

27 posted on 12/18/2005 11:16:36 AM PST by umbagi (The Duke of Earle: greatest prosecutor since Jim Garrison)
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To: texas booster

Will all of the workunits I've already gotten go to the team if and when I assimilate?


28 posted on 12/18/2005 11:20:29 AM PST by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: umbagi

FreeBSD instructions from the FAH site.


http://folding.stanford.edu/faq.html#run.FreeBSD


29 posted on 12/18/2005 11:22:24 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: SteveMcKing

I be one of those that you describe.


30 posted on 12/18/2005 11:23:05 AM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: MediaMole
FreeBSD instructions from the FAH site.

Thanks!

31 posted on 12/18/2005 11:24:19 AM PST by umbagi (The Duke of Earle: greatest prosecutor since Jim Garrison)
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To: texas booster

Anybody know if Windows Server 2003 will work with the client? Didn't see it listed on the folding site....


32 posted on 12/18/2005 11:25:42 AM PST by dagar
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To: texas booster

I added my Athlon 64 3500+ to the team; however, I don't keep the computer on much when I'm not around so I probably won't be that big of a help.


33 posted on 12/18/2005 11:33:24 AM PST by dangermouse
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To: texas booster

Thanks for the information.


34 posted on 12/18/2005 11:33:52 AM PST by jwh_Denver (I'd rather be daytrading.)
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To: texas booster; All

For those new to FR's folding team, read up on previous Folding threads (most questions have already been answered)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1541538/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1537549/posts


35 posted on 12/18/2005 11:37:13 AM PST by systematic (Folding@Home for Team FreeRepublic (Team# 36120))
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To: SteveMcKing
Free Republic Folders

Date of last work unit 2005-12-18 11:21:26
Active CPUs within 50 days 65
Team Id 36120
Grand Score 134049 (certificate)
Work Unit Count 988 (certificate)
Team Ranking (incl. aggregate) 1453 of 41741
Home Page http://www.freerepublic.com
Fast Teampage URL http://fah-web.stanford.edu/teamstats/team36120.html

36 posted on 12/18/2005 11:38:20 AM PST by systematic (Folding@Home for Team FreeRepublic (Team# 36120))
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To: Slicksadick
Team members
Rank
(within team)
User Score WU
1 Compaq_Owner 19975 138
2 Dads_AMD3000 18445 64
3 Texas_Booster 18345 144
4 Compaq_Owner3 12397 104
5 T_Admin 6796 53
6 bubba_sales 6356 51
7 Jim 5173 40
8 Malsua 5055 30
9 Uriah 4532 37
10 Ken_in_Texas 4500 18
11 Tony1 3176 23
12 Weasel 2426 21
13 Steve_Wilson_1 2307 21
14 ENDUSER_Michael 2298 16
15 dfwddr 1848 26
16 kenth 1715 18
17 Vern_1 1705 14
18 Brian_Admin 1649 12
19 Chesterbelloc 1583 13
20 Compaq_Owner_David 1476 13
21 BoT 1160 41
22 susan 1141 10
23 Hawkeyes_Girl 1064 6
24 Kevin_Inspiron 952 6
25 Trax_Admin 848 7
26 David_G_1 808 7
27 Tactical 804 5
28 Big_Bobs_FTW_1 549 3
29 Kingu 500 4
30 David_Griffith 453 4
31 A.Hun 422 3
32 cgk 334 3
33 FourtySeven 300 2
34 Vladimir_F 287 10
35 xeniast 287 2
36 ArgentCent 241 1
37 sshultz460 206 1
38 Drachenfels 206 1
39 ShakeNJake 206 1
40 CPQ_1700 197 2
41 Michael_K 182 1
42 sales_don 182 1
43 Tami 182 1
44 HangThemHigh 182 1
45 Heil_Dad 171 3
46 vidi 166 1
47 VICI 106 1
48 Veni 48 1
49 ChadGore 48 1
50 Becky1 41 1
51 jarod_1 19 1

37 posted on 12/18/2005 11:38:58 AM PST by systematic (Folding@Home for Team FreeRepublic (Team# 36120))
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To: dangermouse

Team member stats: http://fahstats.com/t.php?t=36120

Team production: http://fahstats.com/tp.php?t=36120

Teams we'll conquer next: http://fahstats.com/tr.php?t=36120


38 posted on 12/18/2005 11:42:15 AM PST by systematic (Folding@Home for Team FreeRepublic (Team# 36120))
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To: texas booster

Dual processor systems can run two foldings simultaneously using "console" FAH versions.


39 posted on 12/18/2005 12:09:58 PM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: jwh_Denver

Folding@Home is a distributed computing project. People from throughout the world download and run a small piece of software to band together and form one of the largest supercomputers in the world. The software runs in the background, using "spare" CPU cycles and not interfering with or slowing down any of your regular programs. It basically puts your computer's "extra" power to good use!

Many human diseases, including many neurodegenerative diseases, are thought to be caused by improper protein folding, or protein misfolding. ALS, Alzheimer's and Parkinson's are just a few of the diseases that could be positively impacted by this project.

Folding@Home is a very worthy cause.

Download the software and sign up on the Folding@Home website: http://folding.stanford.edu

FreeRepublic's team number is 36120


40 posted on 12/18/2005 12:17:25 PM PST by systematic (Folding@Home for Team FreeRepublic (Team# 36120))
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To: systematic

Got your note TY. Folding is running fine now. I would like to see it pop up as my screen saver, any ideas on how I set that up?


41 posted on 12/18/2005 12:18:13 PM PST by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: MediaMole
FreeBSD instructions from the FAH site.

... and two more machines (a 2.4ghz and a 300mhz) join the FR team.

42 posted on 12/18/2005 12:25:07 PM PST by umbagi (The Duke of Earle: greatest prosecutor since Jim Garrison)
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To: Slicksadick

Actually, I diabled all screensavers as they rob valuable CPU cyles.

Double click on the six-pointed red star (lower right corner) to have the black console come up.


43 posted on 12/18/2005 12:25:31 PM PST by systematic (Folding@Home for Team FreeRepublic (Team# 36120))
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To: umbagi

Awesome!

Every CPU helps!

Top 1,000 - here we come!


44 posted on 12/18/2005 12:26:18 PM PST by systematic (Folding@Home for Team FreeRepublic (Team# 36120))
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To: texas booster

Thanks for the thread.

Just FYI, I private mailed every new person who responded to this thread encouraging them to join F@H.

We should have 5-6 new CPUs as a result of this thread.

A few more joined as a result of the SETI thread yesterday.

We should have weekly threads from now on --> signing up just a couple of new CPUs each week, we can get into the Top100.


45 posted on 12/18/2005 12:30:52 PM PST by systematic (Folding@Home for Team FreeRepublic (Team# 36120))
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To: systematic; texas booster
We should have 5-6 new CPUs as a result of this thread.

You got five from me (three XP, two FreeBSD, lots of cycles) between texas booster's email and this thread, and several others have posted, so it looks like a good day.

u

46 posted on 12/18/2005 12:39:00 PM PST by umbagi (The Duke of Earle: greatest prosecutor since Jim Garrison)
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To: dangermouse

Check out the competition's (Kos) stats

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=48083

How embarrasing is that for Daily “Screw Them” Kos


47 posted on 12/18/2005 12:41:10 PM PST by systematic (Folding@Home for Team FreeRepublic (Team# 36120))
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To: systematic
How embarrasing is that for Daily “Screw Them” Kos

Just the usual problem with two-byte brains. Their Team ID is 48083, and none of them can count past 32767...

48 posted on 12/18/2005 12:44:27 PM PST by umbagi (The Duke of Earle: greatest prosecutor since Jim Garrison)
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To: umbagi
Their Team ID is 48083

clearly an indication that they started it just recently. some moonbat kos lurker on FR wanted to compete with the mighty FR, lol

49 posted on 12/18/2005 1:03:38 PM PST by systematic (Folding@Home for Team FreeRepublic (Team# 36120))
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To: texas booster
Yay! My computer has completed an estimated 1/500th of a frame of the Amber core. (I think.)
50 posted on 12/18/2005 1:11:09 PM PST by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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