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Microsoft drops Mac IE
News.com ^ | 12/19/2005 | Colin Barker

Posted on 12/19/2005 2:51:56 PM PST by Panerai

The minority of Mac users still browsing with Internet Explorer need to consider moving to another browser very quickly, as Microsoft plans to discontinue support for IE beginning Dec. 31.

The news, which came in a statement on Friday, may not have come as a complete surprise to Mac users: Microsoft announced back in June 2003 that it was ending Mac support for IE. Microsoft has not upgraded the software in three years, leaving IE 5--rather than version 6, which is available for Windows--as the most recent version available to Mac users.

While IE for Mac will continue to be available for another month after support ends, Microsoft is advising all users to move to "more recent browsing technology such as Apple's Safari." In other news:

* Wikipedia alternative as Web's PBS * A better way to count clicks? * Year in review: The PC chugs on * Newsmaker: An eco-designer eyes clean tech

The lack of support for IE is unlikely to be an issue for Apple users, most of whom already use alternatives. The only potential difficulty could lie with some sites that have been designed to work with IE only.

This affects a minority of sites, but the issue hasn't completely gone away. In June, for example, Web-testing company SciVisum said that one in 10 Web sites in the U.K. failed to work properly with Firefox, the popular open-source browser. Firefox, Safari and other browsers such as Opera are available for Mac OS X.


TOPICS: Technical
KEYWORDS: apple; camino; firefox; ie; internetexplorer; microsoft; mozilla; omnigroup; omniweb; opera
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1 posted on 12/19/2005 2:51:58 PM PST by Panerai
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To: Panerai; Swordmaker

Hey Gates, don't let the screen door... window... nevermind...


2 posted on 12/19/2005 2:54:13 PM PST by IncPen (Torture should be safe, legal, and rare.)
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Can't even remember the last time I had IE on my Mac.


3 posted on 12/19/2005 2:55:15 PM PST by oolatec
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

Of course, I can't think of many Mac users still using IE....

4 posted on 12/19/2005 2:58:20 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Panerai
The minority of Mac users still browsing with Internet Explorer need to consider moving to another browser very quickly,

Why? Is it going to catch fire and explode?

If you haven't been using "more recent browsing technology such as Apple's Safari." , then you're not interested in changing things, so why do you need to change now?

5 posted on 12/19/2005 3:01:32 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Panerai

Can't even imagine defiling my Mac with MS IE.


6 posted on 12/19/2005 3:02:40 PM PST by FLcitizen
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To: Panerai
If you're a Mac user, there's bound to be a browser that you'll find is the right "fit" for you. Here are some popular choices:

For Mac OS X users: Safari is Apple's included web browser. Firefox and Opera are FREE web browsers. There's also Camino, a Mac OS X-only browser based on Mozilla technology.

WaMCom is a Mozilla-based browser for Mac OS 9 (Classic)

OmniWeb, one of the last commercially sold browsers, is a Mac OS X-only alternative.

If you absolutely "need" IE, Mac users will still be able to use IE5 (IE for Mac OS X) (IE for Mac OS 8.1-9.x), and it will probably run under the Rosetta emulation for the forthcoming Macs based on Intel processors. Another alternative is running Internet Explorer via Windows inside Microsoft's Virtual PC.

7 posted on 12/19/2005 3:05:54 PM PST by newzjunkey (Remember the less fortunate this season: "U.S. Marines Toys for Tots" "Salvation Army")
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To: Izzy Dunne
If you haven't been using "more recent browsing technology such as Apple's Safari." , then you're not interested in changing things, so why do you need to change now?

Here's a decent reason: IE isn't getting updated to fix security holes. So, if someone comes up with a new hack (for example, some kind of web address spoofing scheme), Safari or Firefox users will probably get a quick fix, whereas IE users won't get notified a problem exists.

The one bad side of this: some idiotic websites are hard-coded to only work with IE. I know, I could turn on the "debug mode" of Safari, and set the "user-agent" variable to read like IE, but it is easier to just fire up IE for those few sites.

8 posted on 12/19/2005 3:06:59 PM PST by Yossarian (The media is now simply running a 24/7 soap opera with Dubya cast as the arch villain.)
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To: ShadowAce

"Of course, I can't think of many Mac users still using IE...."

As far as I can tell, practically every user in Education (K-12 & Higher Ed) still uses MSIE. So does anyone who wants to access FEMA's website. Gonna be interesting.


9 posted on 12/19/2005 3:09:34 PM PST by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: Yossarian
Here's a decent reason: IE isn't getting updated to fix security holes.

Well, that's true, but my point is that anyone using IE is not concerned about security. So the fact that MS won't "support" it any more is irrelevant.

10 posted on 12/19/2005 3:11:34 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Panerai
The minority of Mac users still browsing with Internet Explorer need to consider moving to another browser very quickly, as Microsoft plans to discontinue support for IE beginning Dec. 31.

SKY IS FALLING! SKY IS FALLING! SKY IS FALLING! ...

11 posted on 12/19/2005 3:11:57 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: Yossarian
Safari or Firefox users will probably get a quick fix, whereas IE users won't get notified a problem exists.

That is the case when it becomes "unsupported" software. Only people resistant to change will stick it out with IE, and that number isn't a very large majority.

12 posted on 12/19/2005 3:15:53 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: newzjunkey

For Mac OS 9.x users (because they have slow old machines)
a pretty reliable alternative is Mozilla Wamcom
at http://wamcom.org/
Version 1.3.1
Old but will work where OLD IE fails.

Direct link to the download alternatives is
http://wamcom.org/latest-131/

but good to read the front page first.


13 posted on 12/19/2005 3:19:36 PM PST by Anne Chin
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To: IncPen

Huh. Time to switch to a real computer I guess, like a PC.


14 posted on 12/19/2005 3:27:03 PM PST by Siegfried The Red (Subgeniuses are the last TRUE Americans!)
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To: Siegfried The Red
>Huh. Time to switch to a real computer I guess, like a PC

Or, maybe, Gates KNOWS
the switch to INTEL will make
Apple's cool OS

a serious threat
to Windows, so now Bill STOPS
playing with Steven . .

16 posted on 12/19/2005 3:30:01 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Siegfried The Red

What came first? The chicken, or the egg.


17 posted on 12/19/2005 3:37:46 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears….will plow for those who don’t.)
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To: Old Student

We still have Explorer on our school Mac's, but the tech guru is going to be removing it at the end of the school year. We also have Safari, and that is what I use, but many (teachers as well as students) are still using MSIE.


18 posted on 12/19/2005 3:41:43 PM PST by bastantebueno55 (Viva Jorge W Arbusto!)
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To: newzjunkey

In Safari, I get this whiney little notice every 15 minutes that says "Do you really want to stay connected??!!!?"

I looked in preferences for the off switch and can't find it. Where is the off switch hiding?


19 posted on 12/19/2005 3:52:15 PM PST by sergeantdave (Member of the Arbor Day Foundation, travelling the country and destroying open space)
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To: theFIRMbss

Or maybe I just think PCs are better computers, no conspiracy theory necessary. :)


20 posted on 12/19/2005 3:53:30 PM PST by Siegfried The Red (Subgeniuses are the last TRUE Americans!)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

I like chicken. Do you like chicken?


21 posted on 12/19/2005 3:54:09 PM PST by Siegfried The Red (Subgeniuses are the last TRUE Americans!)
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To: sergeantdave
Here's what you do, do not go into preferences for Safari, but in to System Pref.

System Preferences > Network > PPPoE > PPPoE Options > Menu window opens > Un-click box "Prompt every __ minutes to maintain connection" Hope this helps.

22 posted on 12/19/2005 4:15:46 PM PST by Panerai
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To: Panerai

Far as I can tell, Microtheft hasn't supported the Mac on IE for quite some time. So what's changing? I only use it on a handful of sites that won't work properly without the Kool-Aid browser. For everything else, it's Safari and Firefox.

Meanwhile, the folks who are so vehemently anti-Mac should relax, buy some Apple stock, and get over their issues. I use both systems, and I can see the benefits of both. Deal with it.


23 posted on 12/19/2005 4:23:11 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: Siegfried The Red

24 posted on 12/19/2005 4:26:01 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: Panerai

Yeh, that killed the little bugger. Thanks.


25 posted on 12/19/2005 4:32:49 PM PST by sergeantdave (Member of the Arbor Day Foundation, travelling the country and destroying open space)
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To: Siegfried The Red

What did one lesbian frog say to the other?


26 posted on 12/19/2005 4:53:12 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears….will plow for those who don’t.)
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To: Panerai
Since I upgraded to FF1.5 I am having issues with accessing some pages on eBay with my Mac.

If IE goes away I will only have FF, Safari, Opera, Mozilla, Camino and Netscape.... :(
27 posted on 12/19/2005 5:08:12 PM PST by tubebender (You can't make Chicken Salad from Chicken Bleep...)
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To: Panerai

Apple nerds hate Microsoft. Why would they use IE?


28 posted on 12/19/2005 5:10:33 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: oolatec
Can't even remember the last time I had IE on my Mac.

Can't even remember the last time I had IE on my Windows box. Wait a minute, I told the system to remove it but it didn't really. Nope, even though I never use it I'm stuck with it staying on this XP box.

29 posted on 12/19/2005 7:13:22 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: BigSkyFreeper
That is the case when it becomes "unsupported" software.

I have to admit this is where open source looks good. Who cares if someone abandoned a product -- if you really want it it can still survive.

The suggested "abandonware" laws are looking better every day.

30 posted on 12/19/2005 7:15:15 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Bush2000; antiRepublicrat; Action-America; August West; eno_; Glenn; gmill; BigFinn; backslacker; ..
Microsoft Drops Internet Explorer for the Mac... PING!

Of course, no one uses it, so it won't be missed.

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.


31 posted on 12/19/2005 7:19:01 PM PST by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: flrepublican

Exactly, LOL!


32 posted on 12/19/2005 7:20:32 PM PST by cmsgop ( Bill Clinton's License Plate..... "Herpes 1")
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To: Panerai
The minority of Mac users still browsing with Internet Explorer need to consider moving to another browser very quickly, as Microsoft plans to discontinue support for IE beginning Dec. 31.

Gee, is Microsoft implying that on December 31, Mac Internet Explorer will implode? I can see the clock ticking down now... 10, 9, 8...

33 posted on 12/19/2005 7:24:46 PM PST by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: Old Student

Which part of FEMA's web site requires MSIE?


34 posted on 12/19/2005 7:26:06 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Panerai

The only time I ever use IE on my Mac is when there are pages that won't load, such as when I needed to link into my work email or some secure websites.


35 posted on 12/19/2005 7:29:42 PM PST by lawgirl (..a long December and there's reason to believe maybe this year will be better than the last.....)
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To: Anne Chin

My upgraded G4 Sawtooth runs OS9 and has a 1.2 Ghz Freescale 7455 processor... slow?


36 posted on 12/19/2005 7:36:02 PM PST by chet_in_ny
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To: sergeantdave
I looked in preferences for the off switch and can't find it. Where is the off switch hiding?

Panerai's explanation is right... if you are connected using a highspeed connection over Ethernet... (PPPoE = PPP over Ethernet) but if you are using a phone modem the setting is in

System Preferences >> Network >> Show Internal Modem >> PPP >> PPP Options >> Prompt every __ minutes to maintain connection.

37 posted on 12/19/2005 7:50:23 PM PST by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: SlowBoat407

"I use both systems, and I can see the benefits of both. Deal with it."

Most sensible thing I've heard lately in the MAC vs. PC wars. Heck, I'm still trying to figure out why CP/M-86 went away just as I was about to be able to afford it...


38 posted on 12/19/2005 8:03:21 PM PST by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: coconutt2000

"Which part of FEMA's web site requires MSIE?"

As I heard it, the part where you go to apply for their assistance. Was mentioned repeatedly on several of the threads about Katrina here recently.


39 posted on 12/19/2005 8:05:30 PM PST by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: tubebender
Since I upgraded to FF1.5 I am having issues with accessing some pages on eBay with my Mac.

I have used eBay extensively with Safari and had no issues at all. When I say extensively, I spent over $50,000 on eBay in the space of one year and never ran into a problem page.

40 posted on 12/19/2005 8:10:47 PM PST by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: Swordmaker
I don't know where the problem is. I tried all my browsers to no avail. It just started a week ago. It won't let me complete some transaction from the Pay Now feature but when the dealer sends me another invoice I can complete it. It's like it doesn't recognize my log-in or it's a bad link?.

I have over 2000 positives as a buyer...
41 posted on 12/19/2005 8:24:43 PM PST by tubebender (You can't make Chicken Salad from Chicken Bleep...)
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To: Swordmaker
I spent over $50,000 on eBay in the space of one year and never ran into a problem page.

Except the one that says "Stop spending so much money on eBay!!!!"

42 posted on 12/19/2005 8:26:31 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: tubebender

Complain to eBay... point out that 17,000,000 to 25,000,000 Mac users may be having problems doing business with them since they changed something.


43 posted on 12/19/2005 8:32:22 PM PST by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: SlowBoat407
Except the one that says "Stop spending so much money on eBay!!!!"

Except for a few purchases for me, most were for clients and I made money on them...

44 posted on 12/19/2005 8:33:31 PM PST by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: Swordmaker

Dang it. I figured you'd have some kind of smart-aleck answer for my smart-aleck comment.


45 posted on 12/19/2005 8:59:50 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: newzjunkey; Swordmaker; HAL9000

"The lack of support for IE is unlikely to be an issue for Apple users"

I don't know why. It's not an issue for Windows users.

[rimshot!]

Let's not forget iCab!

http://www.icab.de/


46 posted on 12/19/2005 9:03:24 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In silence, and at night, the Conscience feels that life should soar to nobler ends than Power.")
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To: Old Student

I just hit the FEMA web site with Safari. No problem.


47 posted on 12/19/2005 9:04:10 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Tenure is the enemy of excellence.)
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To: IncPen

While I switched to Mac to get away from Windows problems, I'm using Office X on the Mac, and it's by far the best office package around. I don't hate MS, I just think their OS is out of date. I know it has almost all market share, but the legacy support, I think, hurts their attempts to make a new OS. It was a little expensive to make the switch (Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Office, etc.), but it's been a blessing to switch to modern software.


48 posted on 12/19/2005 9:08:06 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Tenure is the enemy of excellence.)
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To: SlowBoat407

I had the same problem, sort of, the system just couldn't handle the holiday shopping volume. So I've postponed the sale, and have yet another reason to say f- eBay. :')


49 posted on 12/19/2005 9:09:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In silence, and at night, the Conscience feels that life should soar to nobler ends than Power.")
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To: Panerai
I was messing around with a G-5 at Comp USA the other day, and it had Safari on it, and it seemed like a nice browser.(The Mac was an absolute diamond. I will have one ASAP)

Thanks to many on this site, I'm using Firefox now, and I've been very happy with it.

Any of you remember Cyberdog? I think I had that with OS 8 IIRC :)

50 posted on 12/19/2005 9:14:05 PM PST by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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