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Jimmy Carter Assumed Same Spy Power As Bush
Sweetness & Light ^ | December 19, 2005 | N/A

Posted on 12/19/2005 6:12:52 PM PST by Sam Hill

Almost immediately after the enactment of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, President Jimmy "the Saint" Carter issued Executive Order #12139:

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Foreign Intelligence Electronic Surveillance

By the authority vested in me as President by Sections 102 and 104 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1802 and 1804), in order to provide as set forth in that Act for the authorization of electronic surveillance for foreign intelligence purposes, it is hereby ordered as follows:

1-101. Pursuant to Section 102(a)(1) of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1802(a)), the Attorney General is authorized to approve electronic surveillance to acquire foreign intelligence information without a court order, but only if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that Section.

1-102. Pursuant to Section 102(b) of the Foreign Intelligence Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1802(b)), the Attorney General is authorized to approve applications to the court having jurisdiction under Section 103 of that Act to obtain orders for electronic surveillance for the purpose of obtaining foreign intelligence information.

1-103. Pursuant to Section 104(a)(7) of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1804(a)(7)), the following officials, each of whom is employed in the area of national security or defense, is designated to make the certifications required by Section 104(a)(7) of the Act in support of applications to conduct electronic surveillance:
(a) Secretary of State.
(b) Secretary of Defense.
(c) Director of Central Intelligence.
(d) Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
(e) Deputy Secretary of State.
(f) Deputy Secretary of Defense.
(g) Deputy Director of Central Intelligence.
None of the above officials, nor anyone officially acting in that capacity, may exercise the authority to make the above certifications, unless that official has been appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate.

1-104. [Deleted]

1-105. [Deleted]

[Secs. 1-104 and 1-105 amended Executive Order 12036 of Jan. 24, 1978, which was revoked by Executive Order 12333 of Dec. 4, 1981.]

Jimmy Carter
1978

Once more, with feeling:

[T]he Attorney General is authorized to approve electronic surveillance to acquire foreign intelligence information without a court order, but only if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that Section.

Again, none of this is news, except to the New York Times. And we all know why they are pretending it's new to them.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1978; disgustingdemorats; eo; eo12139; fisa; homelandsecurity; islam; jailsulzbergernow; jimmycarter; muslims; nationalsecurity; notbreakingnews; patriotleak; presidents; somepigsmoreequal; spying; welcometothe1970s
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To: Sam Hill

...but now protecting our country is an impeachable offense!! Their negative propoganda,and radical "doom and gloom" will add up to extinction of the "Liberals".We have a national party that is dangerous to our national security,and they can take their "civil liberties" rants and whining and stuff themselves...they can think about liberty when their lifeless corpses are at room temperature. Wake up America!!!


151 posted on 12/20/2005 10:49:23 AM PST by 911angelady
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To: digger48

And swimming attack rabbits.


152 posted on 12/20/2005 11:31:30 AM PST by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: Sam Hill

Amazing discovery. Send it to Brit Hume.


153 posted on 12/20/2005 11:53:36 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (Americans need to remember Osama's "strong horse" -"weak horse" analogy. Let's stop acting weak.)
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To: Finalapproach29er

We really need to storm the ramparts with this information.


154 posted on 12/20/2005 2:15:43 PM PST by rowhey
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To: Sam Hill
It is the oldest rule in the Democratic playbook.
Quod licet Jovi, non licet bovi

What is allowable for Jupiter is not allowable for cattle


155 posted on 12/20/2005 2:29:39 PM PST by jmcenanly
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To: Sam Hill

I'd like to join your ping list


156 posted on 12/20/2005 2:31:54 PM PST by jmcenanly
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To: Sam Hill

bttt


157 posted on 12/20/2005 2:38:43 PM PST by timestax
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To: theOffice

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158 posted on 12/20/2005 2:49:07 PM PST by timestax
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To: pocat

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159 posted on 12/20/2005 3:18:18 PM PST by timestax
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To: jmcenanly

Done.


160 posted on 12/20/2005 3:22:27 PM PST by Sam Hill
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To: oceanview

bttt


161 posted on 12/20/2005 7:24:09 PM PST by timestax
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To: frankjr

"Well Jimmy is in good company...with Clinton his Echelon program"

What's not working for the dems is that so many Americans can now get their news from "alternative" sources not controlled by their allies in the "MSM".

The internet has provided untold millions w/ access to enough information (truth) to refute their lies.


162 posted on 12/20/2005 8:04:25 PM PST by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: gondramB; Beckwith

The Sami etc. guy - the Forida prof that O'Reilly has featured - is he an American?


163 posted on 12/20/2005 8:07:54 PM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: Sam Hill

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164 posted on 12/21/2005 12:25:40 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (admittedly too unstable for public office)
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To: Constitutional Patriot

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166 posted on 12/21/2005 2:59:09 PM PST by timestax
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To: theOffice

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167 posted on 12/21/2005 3:43:43 PM PST by timestax
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To: mosquitobite

I don't think it was sleuthed. It is pretty much straight out of an RNC release.


168 posted on 12/21/2005 3:55:08 PM PST by lugsoul ("Try not to be sad." - Laura Bush)
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To: USS Alaska

lewinski's sperm donor.......hahahahahaha. That is funny(coming from a guy who voted for him twice)


169 posted on 12/21/2005 5:33:23 PM PST by sachem longrifle (Proud member of the Fond Du Lac band of the Chippewa people)
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To: Sam Hill

What's the big deal? It's only a boilerplate enabling order for the AG and not something to hang your hats on to defend this administration. You appear to have completely misread this, and mis-interpreted its significance by failing to consider the context (legal and operational) and meaning of "foreign intelligence" and the AG's requirement to abide by "certifications" of the "Section."


170 posted on 12/21/2005 7:52:31 PM PST by CaptIsaacDavis (.)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
I realize you're probably a troll and not interested in discussing this subject seriously. But for the record:

TITLE 50 > CHAPTER 36 > SUBCHAPTER I > § 1801

§ 1801. Definitions

(b) Agent of a foreign power” means—

(1) any person other than a United States person, who—
(A) acts in the United States as an officer or employee of a foreign power, or as a member of a foreign power as defined in subsection (a)(4) of this section;
(B) acts for or on behalf of a foreign power which engages in clandestine intelligence activities in the United States contrary to the interests of the United States, when the circumstances of such person’s presence in the United States indicate that such person may engage in such activities in the United States, or when such person knowingly aids or abets any person in the conduct of such activities or knowingly conspires with any person to engage in such activities; or
 
(2) any person who—
(A) knowingly engages in clandestine intelligence gathering activities for or on behalf of a foreign power, which activities involve or may involve a violation of the criminal statutes of the United States;
(B) pursuant to the direction of an intelligence service or network of a foreign power, knowingly engages in any other clandestine intelligence activities for or on behalf of such foreign power, which activities involve or are about to involve a violation of the criminal statutes of the United States;
(C) knowingly engages in sabotage or international terrorism, or activities that are in preparation therefor, for or on behalf of a foreign power;
(D) knowingly enters the United States under a false or fraudulent identity for or on behalf of a foreign power or, while in the United States, knowingly assumes a false or fraudulent identity for or on behalf of a foreign power; or
(E) knowingly aids or abets any person in the conduct of activities described in subparagraph (A), (B), or (C) or knowingly conspires with any person to engage in activities described in subparagraph (A), (B), or (C).
 
(c) “International terrorism” means activities that—
(1) involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or any State;
(2) appear to be intended—
(A) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(B) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(C) to affect the conduct of a government by assassination or kidnapping; and
 
(3) occur totally outside the United States, or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to coerce or intimidate, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum.
 
(d) “Sabotage” means activities that involve a violation of chapter 105 of title 18, or that would involve such a violation if committed against the United States.
(e) “Foreign intelligence information” means—
(1) information that relates to, and if concerning a United States person is necessary to, the ability of the United States to protect against—
(A) actual or potential attack or other grave hostile acts of a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power;
(B) sabotage or international terrorism by a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power; or
(C) clandestine intelligence activities by an intelligence service or network of a foreign power or by an agent of a foreign power; or
 
(2) information with respect to a foreign power or foreign territory that relates to, and if concerning a United States person is necessary to—
(A) the national defense or the security of the United States; or
(B) the conduct of the foreign affairs of the United States.

171 posted on 12/21/2005 9:10:27 PM PST by Sam Hill
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To: lugsoul

"I don't think it was sleuthed. It is pretty much straight out of an RNC release."

Really? Do you have a link to that release?

(I'm kidding of course. I know you are just a lying troll.)


172 posted on 12/21/2005 9:24:21 PM PST by Sam Hill
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To: MizSterious

"The libs are absolutely salivating."

Including Alan Colmes.


173 posted on 12/21/2005 9:51:49 PM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Fruit of the Spirit

Is that salivating, or drooling? Colmes always lookes like a drooling member of the undead.


174 posted on 12/22/2005 5:36:01 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: MizSterious

"Colmes always lookes like a drooling member of the undead."

LOL! I quite agree...and he's so rude.


175 posted on 12/22/2005 8:43:25 AM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Sam Hill

And that was just against rabbits!


176 posted on 12/22/2005 8:43:50 AM PST by MortMan (There is no substitute for victory.)
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To: theOffice

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177 posted on 12/22/2005 9:49:10 PM PST by timestax
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To: Ryan Ruck

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178 posted on 12/22/2005 9:50:33 PM PST by timestax
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To: theOffice

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179 posted on 12/23/2005 8:14:58 AM PST by timestax
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To: Sam Hill

Wasn't that just after the Killer Rabbit Incident?


180 posted on 12/23/2005 9:00:06 AM PST by pabianice (I guess)
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To: theOffice

bttt


181 posted on 12/26/2005 8:57:27 PM PST by timestax
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To: Sam Hill
Well maybe, but he didn't use the same spies:

According to FISA and other Disneyland regulations if the spies were under 40" tall they could get away with murder.

182 posted on 12/28/2005 4:20:06 PM PST by x
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