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Did Bush willingly commit a ZOT? Please say it ain't so

Posted on 12/20/2005 8:49:47 AM PST by always thr constitution

I have been arguing with stupid libs for two days saying that Bush committed no crime because under the provisions of the USSID 18 and the FSIA, he could with perfect legitimacy eavesdrop on aliens involved in terrorist activities if he had AG approval.

However, what was puzzling is that Gonzales did not cite USSID 18; he cited the more dubious rationale of war powers approval. This would seem to indicate that Bush was spying on US citizens without a Court Order which clearly violates USSID 18 and the FSIA, and was using war powers approval to cover for it.

Now such actions are not unprecedented during wartime; however, since there has been no officiial declaration of war, there seems to be Constitutional as well as legal issues at work here.

I never thought Bush would resort to such extreme measures to skirt the law. I hope I am wrong. Please tell me why Bush didn't do this.


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1 posted on 12/20/2005 8:49:50 AM PST by always thr constitution
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To: always thr constitution
IBTZ and FP! Yay me!
2 posted on 12/20/2005 8:50:18 AM PST by Shalom Israel (Buh-bye boys! Have fun stormin' the castle!)
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To: always thr constitution

IB4TZ!!!


3 posted on 12/20/2005 8:50:19 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: always thr constitution

BEAT IT TROLL


4 posted on 12/20/2005 8:50:20 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: always thr constitution

I like cheese. Do you like cheese?


5 posted on 12/20/2005 8:50:33 AM PST by TheBigB ("Hey, barkeep, whose leg do you have to hump to get a dry martini around here?"--Brian Griffin)
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To: Puppage

IBTZ WOOOHOOO


6 posted on 12/20/2005 8:50:44 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: always thr constitution

BTW, Echelon has figured out where you're posting from and they're comin' to getcha!


8 posted on 12/20/2005 8:50:56 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: TheBigB

9 posted on 12/20/2005 8:51:16 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: always thr constitution

You can go back to DU now DUdummy. Brand new liberal coming over to the free side to spread your whines. Go back. Zot.


10 posted on 12/20/2005 8:51:32 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I have no faith in any politician or political party any more. They all lie for their agendas.)
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To: always thr constitution; Darksheare

Goodie, IBTZ too! Calling the kitties!!!


11 posted on 12/20/2005 8:51:34 AM PST by BreitbartSentMe (Ex-Democrat since 2001)
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To: always thr constitution
I have been arguing with stupid libs ...

In a hall of mirrors?

12 posted on 12/20/2005 8:51:55 AM PST by dighton
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To: italianquaker

13 posted on 12/20/2005 8:52:02 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: always thr constitution

Are you always this stupid or are you making a special effort today?


14 posted on 12/20/2005 8:53:55 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Puppage

If the poster is a "troll", then so is Bruce Fein, a former Reagan Deputy AG:

http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/bfein.htm


15 posted on 12/20/2005 8:55:05 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: always thr constitution

NB4DZOT


16 posted on 12/20/2005 8:55:21 AM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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17 posted on 12/20/2005 8:55:29 AM PST by thoughtomator (Congrats Iraq!)
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To: always thr constitution
Okay, I'll get right on it!

Oh, and while I'm busy researching for you, could you please tell me how lying under oath isn't perjury so I can go argue with those stupid right-wingers? Thanks so much!

18 posted on 12/20/2005 8:55:32 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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Meeoooooow...


19 posted on 12/20/2005 8:55:37 AM PST by RockinRight (Itís likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: Puppage

I do enjoy seeing that Viking kitty and his trusty sword.


20 posted on 12/20/2005 8:55:40 AM PST by lilylangtree
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