[highball]

Ah, the creationist spin has begun....

[cope85]

U.S. District Judge John Jones who is he

[BikerNYC]

Oh, man. Thanks. That was good for a laugh.

[Siegfried The Red]

I think it's great when kids decide for themselves that ID is real science and evolution is an anti-religious conspiracy. After all, the world needs ditch diggers too and I like my fries nice and hot.

[BenLurkin]

Wouldn't it have been better to exclude both evolution theory and intelligent design theory form the classroom?

That way children can choose their faith outside the pressure of the classroom environment.

[Dave S]

Censors science? Since when has metaphysics been part of science. Is the state required to accomodate voodoo too?

[Dave S]

Having an interest in intelligent design is fine. Studying it is fine. Fostering it on impressionabel kids as science is not. I enjoy listening to the Art Bell show, but that doesnt mean that I think the transistor was created by backengineering alien technology from Roswell. And Im going to give credit in school to the three PhDs at Bell Labs.

[RonF]

The Dover decision is an attempt by an activist federal judge to stop the spread of a scientific idea

It's not scientific. And he didn't try to stop it's spread. Those people who seek to find a way to develop science to back up ID are still free to do so.

and even to prevent criticism of Darwinian evolution through government-imposed censorship rather than open debate,

Criticize it all you want. Debate it all you want. But such criticism and debate belongs in the scientific literature, not in the classroom. Until there's science to back up the teaching of ID, the only class it belongs in is one for philosophy or comparative religion.

and it won't work,"

Yes, it will. It'll work precisely as it should; find scientific evidence to back up religiously-based assertions and it'll get taught as science. Until then, it won't.

[onja]

Yeah, ID is a theory with some facts supporting it and a lot of believers. No one has the audacity to say that evolution explains everything perfectly. There are flaws in the theory that cause some to believe that it doesn't fit the evidence. It makes sense to at least inform the students that there is another theory.

BTW- Why does everyone think ID, etc. is only for stupid people? There are many scientists who believe in it. Not to brag, but I'm very much above average and I believe in it. It's not just people in the food industry or fanatical christians.

[Windsong]

A legal ruling can't change the fact that there is digital code in DNA

Er...digital? As in..ones and zeros? What happened to the nucleotides?

[facedown]

A legal ruling can't change the fact that there is digital code in DNA,...

Would that be Da Vinci?

[shuckmaster]

HaHaHa!!! The DI are charlatan losers. They ducked and ran when they had the chance to witness for the trial and now start spinning Orwellian doublespeak to rev up book sales to the terminally ignorant. What a bunch of sorry losers! ...and to think they want to sneak their charlatan pseudoscience into science class so they can force ignorance down peoples throats. It's a good thing we have a few conservative Bush appointed judges in Pennsylvania to stop this outrageous hoax in it's tracks!

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[bert]

There is no empirical evidence for the intelligent part of intelligent design.

[jcon40]

Research over the last 30 years on Consciousness and Quantum Physics should be thrown in with Evolution, ID and Creationism. Today's young minds should be exposed to what is going on in labs like the Stanford Research Institute on these subjects.

All of it is hard to swallow as fact because trying to understand subjects like "When did time start" will never be explained with the type of logic we like to understand our world by.

Simply because Science can not explain processes to our satisfaction does not mean these don't exist.

[vpintheak]

Evolutionists = tyranny of the minority = dimocRat tactics. No freedom of thought here, move along, nothing to see.

[StAnDeliver]

Born in '05 types orcing ID threads.

Hmmmm.......O₃.......

[Sun]

During the trial, the board argued that it was trying improve science education by exposing students to alternatives to Charles Darwin's theory of evolution and natural selection.

The policy required students to hear a statement about intelligent design before ninth-grade lessons on evolution. The statement said Darwin's theory is "not a fact" and has inexplicable "gaps." It referred students to an intelligent-design textbook, "Of Pandas and People."

But the judge said: "We find that the secular purposes claimed by the board amount to a pretext for the board's real purpose, which was to promote religion in the public school classroom."

excerpt: http://apnews.myway.com//article/20051221/D8EKABI80.html

So I' trying to figure out WHICH religion would be promoted by the Intelligent Design theory.