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Pastor's (Joel Osteen's)wife involved in flight disturbance
ABC 13 ^ | 12-20-05 | Jessica Willey

Posted on 12/20/2005 4:08:06 PM PST by truthandlife

A dispute that involved the wife of Houston's most famous pastor, Joel Osteen, and a Continental Airlines flight attendant ended up delaying a flight for hours Monday. And now, Victoria Osteen's actions on that flight are in the spotlight. Also on ABC13.com: Send us a news tip | RSS feeds | ABC13 E-lert | Info mentioned on air Statements from Lakewood and Continental Following the incident on Continental flight 1602 Monday, both Lakewood Church and Continental Airlines released these statements. The Osteens run the largest church in the nation, so passengers on a Continental flight were shocked Monday when Mrs. Osteen was removed from that flight after a disturbance.

Taking time off from the high profile hustle and bustle of running a mega-church, Lakewood Church Pastor Joel Osteen and his family boarded Continental flight 1602 Monday morning at Houston's big airport. They were bound for the slopes in Colorado.

Their trip was delayed and so was the entire flight by almost two hours. Fellow passengers blame the popular Osteens, specifically Joel's wife, Victoria.

According to passenger accounts, the Osteens were sitting in first class. Soon after the plane's door was closed, the FBI says Victoria Osteen was removed following what Continental would call only a disturbance. The Osteens' spokesman confirms it involved a flight attendant, but that's all. However, one passenger tells Eyewitness News she was alerted to the front of the plane when she heard a commotion.

"She violently ran towards the cockpit, scaring everyone around her," said passenger Knicky Van Slyke. "Everyone was terrified about what was going on. And a bunch of flight attendants ran up and had to restrain her. She was banging on the door."

"Of the cockpit?" we asked.

"Yes."

Passengers say Victoria was removed first. Joel and the children followed. Meantime, everyone waited.

"They unloaded all the luggage to get their luggage and deplaned her, Joel, and the kids," said passenger Dawn Dixon.

Passenger Chad Clay said, "They kept telling us they were waiting on some passengers to find their luggage underneath in the plane, and it was going to be delayed for looking for that luggage."

According to the Transportation Security Administration, federal air marshals were never involved. Local authorities also know nothing of this event. Continental would not discuss details.

The Osteens' spokesman denies a physical altercation, denies Victoria ever banged on the cockpit door, and says she left on her own.

"The account of the event which has come to our attention is inaccurate and overblown. The misunderstanding was minor and was resolved when Victoria voluntarily removed herself from the situation," read the statement.

The FBI says it was not voluntary. Though agents are not investigating, they will review the incident as the Osteens enjoy their Colorado vacation.

The Osteens' spokesman says they took another flight to Colorado Monday.

Nobody has been charged. As for the FBI's involvement, we're told it's standard procedure for them to review all passenger removal incidents. According to Continental, this one is a closed case.

Pastor Joel Osteen preaches to an average of 40,000 people a week at Lakewood Church services. Lakewood opened in the former home of the Rockets, Compaq Center, back in July. It took $90 million and a year and a half of renovations. Osteen's ministry is taped and aired around the world.


TOPICS: US: Texas
KEYWORDS: continental; heretichullabalooh; hitpiece; lakewoodchurch; nameitandclaimit; osteen; pelosi; primadona; prosperitypreachers; tsa
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1 posted on 12/20/2005 4:08:07 PM PST by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife

Health and Wealth False Gospel Bump!!!


2 posted on 12/20/2005 4:10:07 PM PST by fishtank
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To: truthandlife
She's lucky she wasn't beaten within an inch of her life.

Nobody rushes the cockpit of a plane I'm on and not get cold-cocked.

3 posted on 12/20/2005 4:10:53 PM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: truthandlife


Delayed the flight by almost 2 hours!
I would have been LIVID.


4 posted on 12/20/2005 4:11:23 PM PST by onyx (Merry Christmas everybody.)
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To: truthandlife

Victoria, think postively.


5 posted on 12/20/2005 4:11:43 PM PST by Shermy
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To: eyespysomething

If she had been Hispanic they could've shot her.


6 posted on 12/20/2005 4:11:49 PM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: truthandlife

By their fruits you will know them....


7 posted on 12/20/2005 4:11:53 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: fishtank

were the osteen's boasting our fine minority leader, nancy pelosi?


8 posted on 12/20/2005 4:12:46 PM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: truthandlife

Hmmmm.........


9 posted on 12/20/2005 4:12:55 PM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: truthandlife

Doing God's work...for cash.


10 posted on 12/20/2005 4:13:49 PM PST by demsux
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To: truthandlife

I suppose some people just aren't what they appear to be.


11 posted on 12/20/2005 4:14:04 PM PST by freekitty
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To: shield

Probably part of the pressure of celebrity life. . .


12 posted on 12/20/2005 4:14:29 PM PST by CondorFlight
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To: SittinYonder

"If she had been Hispanic they could've shot her."

No comprendo.


13 posted on 12/20/2005 4:14:29 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: truthandlife

Maybe she thought the pilots were going to be raptured and the plane was gonna crash.


14 posted on 12/20/2005 4:15:02 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Screw Christmas, Happy Festivus!!!)
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To: onyx

Wife of Houston minister delays flight to Vail

Accounts differ why Joel and Victoria Osteen got off the plane



Scott N. Miller
December 20, 2005
http://www.vaildaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?Dato=20051220&Kategori=NEWS&Lopenr=112200023&Ref=AR&Show=0&template=printart

GYPSUM - Elizabeth Vail, her husband and two children sat on the tarmac at Houston's airport Monday and waited. Then they waited some more.

After nearly two hours, the Continental Airlines plane took off for Eagle County, minus four passengers: Victoria Osteen, her husband, Joel, and the couple's two children. The Osteens lead Lakewood Church in Houston, which the Web site belief.net.com calls America's largest.

According to passengers, Victoria Osteen was asked to leave the plane after an altercation with the plane's flight crew. Luz Garcia, an agent at the FBI's office in Houston said no charges will be filed. But, she added, "She failed to comply with the flight attendant's instructions and they were asked to leave the flight."

Church spokesman Don Illof said the family was skiing in Vail on Tuesday.

But the delay in Monday's flight left other passengers annoyed.


"We sat on the ground for two hours," said Vail, who was headed to the family condo in Snowmass. "They kept telling us to stay seated with our seatbelts on, that the flight would be leaving in a few minutes. They wouldn't tell us what happened. They didn't tell us until almost the end of the flight."

A couple of first-class passengers saw at least part of what happened.

"As I understand it, she had some drink spill. That started a series of issues with the crew," passenger Herbert Towning said.

"Mr. Osteen was very calm, very professional," passenger Barbara Griffith said. "It's sad."

Another passenger, who didn't want to give her name, agreed with Griffith's account.

"She just had attitude," the unnamed passenger said of Victoria Osteen. "They took her off, and she never came back. Her husband went out, then he came back and got their stuff. An hour-and-a-half later, we were leaving."

It was a long wait on an airplane full of families heading for Christmas vacations.

"It was a lot of families on the flight," Vail said, while riding herd on her own two small children while her husband got their bags. "It was very frustrating."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


15 posted on 12/20/2005 4:15:22 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: fishtank

Without pre-judging this particular incident - the article gives no clue what it was all about - I've always been a bit suspicious of Osteen's act. A bit too slick and wet-behind-the-ears, and it looks like he's yet another TV preacher living the high life. I saw Joyce Meyer on TV a couple of weeks ago, dressed to the hilt (albeit in somewhat bad taste), and preaching about money.


16 posted on 12/20/2005 4:15:32 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: truthandlife

Me thinks thing with the Osteen's don't appear how they really are. Could there be trouble in paradise with the Olsteens? I'm thinking so!


17 posted on 12/20/2005 4:15:37 PM PST by Halls (Never forget Terri Schiavo!!!!!!!!!)
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To: truthandlife
Is this a correct? Did they really spend 90 large on a building?
18 posted on 12/20/2005 4:16:29 PM PST by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: truthandlife

One of those "Do you know who I am?" moments...?


19 posted on 12/20/2005 4:16:33 PM PST by dakine
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To: SittinYonder
If she had been Hispanic they could've shot her.

Are you implying that the shooting of the mentally unstable man who yelled "bomb" was racially motivated? That sure sounds like what your saying.

20 posted on 12/20/2005 4:16:41 PM PST by antaresequity ((PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH, PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED))
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To: fishtank
Health and Wealth False Gospel Bump!!!

Well, it's working for the Osteens - whatever that is.

Is this story accurate?

Maybe the Missus was just off here meds - oops; folks get shot off that!

21 posted on 12/20/2005 4:17:16 PM PST by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing. Become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: truthandlife

What on earth could the flight attendants ask that Victoria couldn't comply with? That is crazy! Sounds to me like she is a b*tch!


22 posted on 12/20/2005 4:17:30 PM PST by Halls (Never forget Terri Schiavo!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

In that case, she wouldn't be on it when it hit the ground.


23 posted on 12/20/2005 4:18:35 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: handy
"Is this a correct? Did they really spend 90 large on a building?"

Indeed they did and if not for the small words "church" and "ministries" you'd never know it was a House of God. Of course, you can't miss the words "Joel Osteen".
24 posted on 12/20/2005 4:18:45 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Halls

Maybe the flight attendeant was, or appeared, gay, and that - along with a spilled drink or some other minor incident - pushed her buttons the wrong way


25 posted on 12/20/2005 4:19:05 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: truthandlife

Sounds like Joel's wife had a high-maintainence wigout. Feel sorry for him.


26 posted on 12/20/2005 4:19:20 PM PST by Shermy
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To: truthandlife; cyborg; onyx; Miss Behave; arasina
Shrill Harridan Alert!

"[Madame Osteen] violently ran towards the cockpit, scaring everyone around her," said passenger Knicky Van Slyke. "Everyone was terrified about what was going on. And a bunch of flight attendants ran up and had to restrain her. She was banging on the door."

27 posted on 12/20/2005 4:19:44 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: SittinYonder

Doubt that mattered, but it doesn't look like there was an air marshal on this flight.

Though it does lead one to think that air marshals might be a fine solution to a whole host of social problems.


28 posted on 12/20/2005 4:20:06 PM PST by thoughtomator (Congrats Iraq!)
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To: truthandlife

I'm surprised that the Osteens don't have a private jet.


29 posted on 12/20/2005 4:20:38 PM PST by Amish with an attitude (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: Steve_Seattle

He preaches to FORTY THOUSAND per week?


30 posted on 12/20/2005 4:20:40 PM PST by csmusaret (Urban Sprawl is an oxymoron)
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To: Halls
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31 posted on 12/20/2005 4:21:04 PM PST by paulat
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To: Amish with an attitude
I'm surprised that the Osteens don't have a private jet.

They will after this incident.

32 posted on 12/20/2005 4:21:40 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: truthandlife
Elmer Gantry?
33 posted on 12/20/2005 4:21:40 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Giving power and money to Congress is like giving liquor and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rour)
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To: csmusaret

His church looks like a sports arena.


34 posted on 12/20/2005 4:22:18 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: truthandlife

Isn't this one of the churches who cancelled services on Christmas Day? Maybe he has the time for the service now that they're not skiing?


35 posted on 12/20/2005 4:22:23 PM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: Amish with an attitude; truthandlife
I'm surprised that the Osteens don't have a private jet.

I bet M. Osteen is teleconferencing with the leasing representatives at this very moment.

36 posted on 12/20/2005 4:22:47 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: truthandlife

Now it's time to implement celibacy requirement for TV preachers that the cat has so tirelessly advocated for so long!


38 posted on 12/20/2005 4:24:49 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: wtp7

About the only TV preachers that I think aren't after big bucks are James Robison and Charles Stanley.


39 posted on 12/20/2005 4:24:55 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: truthandlife

With as much money they fleece from the flock you would think they would have their own fleet of Lear Jets.


40 posted on 12/20/2005 4:24:57 PM PST by 76834 (There's nothing wrong with sobriety in moderation.)
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To: BenLurkin

Oh yeah?

She knew that she wouldn't get yanked up!

TV evangelists are swine.


41 posted on 12/20/2005 4:25:39 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Screw Christmas, Happy Festivus!!!)
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To: fishtank

Lot of pressure to be "little miss perfect" 24/7. Thank God its His grace, and not our pathetic attempts to overcome our "Adam and Eve Sindrome" in superficial ways, that opens the door to eternal life.


42 posted on 12/20/2005 4:25:43 PM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (My Homeland Security: Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper)
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To: fishtank
What an Awful story during the Christmas Season:

A poor Country Preacher and his family, traveling in First Class to a ski trip is harrased by evil secular Continental Airlines Union Thugs and tossed off off their plane.

Have Continental Have No Shame?
44 posted on 12/20/2005 4:26:19 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: paulat

Well, I thought her problem might have been "big hair"; that it would not fit under the overhead storage bin. After seeing the pix you provided, I guess not.


45 posted on 12/20/2005 4:26:33 PM PST by miele man
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath

Well said!


47 posted on 12/20/2005 4:27:44 PM PST by Dacula
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To: miele man
Well, I thought her problem might have been "big hair"; that it would not fit under the overhead storage bin. After seeing the pix you provided, I guess not.

Sounds to me more like "big ego"....

48 posted on 12/20/2005 4:28:15 PM PST by paulat
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To: onyx

Hey there! Speaking of flights being delayed....we were on the second lap of our trip yesterday...from Dallas/Ft. Worth to Las Vegas. We boarded and then were told there was a leak in the hydraulic system...but it would be fixed...an hour later we deplaned and had to wait another hour and a half to board another plane and take off....


49 posted on 12/20/2005 4:28:53 PM PST by Hildy (Keyboard warrior princess - typing away for truth, justice and the American way!)
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To: paulat
In case anyone has the stomach to look at it.
50 posted on 12/20/2005 4:28:56 PM PST by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing. Become a Monthly Donor!)
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