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Heavy crowd gathers in L.A. for funeral of executed former gang leader
940 Montreal News ^ | December 20, 2005

Posted on 12/20/2005 4:11:08 PM PST by Pikamax

Heavy crowd gathers in L.A. for funeral of executed former gang leader at 18:39 on December 20, 2005, EST.

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Celebrities from hip-hop star Snoop Dogg to motivational speaker Tony Robbins lamented the execution of Stanley Tookie Williams at a funeral Tuesday that drew hundreds to the violence-wracked area where Williams founded the murderous Crips gang three decades ago.

Mourners, including gang members flashing hand signs, waited in line to enter the 1,500-seat Bethel AME Church.

Under heavy police presence, vendors sold T-shirts with Williams' picture, and a large TV set up in the parking lot allowed the overflow crowd to watch the service. Williams was executed Dec. 13 despite clemency pleas from celebrities and others who said he had re-dedicated his life to peace.

"It's nine-fifteen on twelve-thirteen and another black king will be taken from the scene," Snoop Dogg told mourners, reciting a poem about the execution. The line "I don't believe Stan did it" drew wild applause in the parking lot.

Williams, 51, was put to death by injection at San Quentin Prison for the 1979 shotgun murders of a 7-Eleven clerk and three motel owners.

"The war within me is over. I battled my demons and I was triumphant," Williams said in a recording played to mourners, whom he asked to spread a message to loved ones.

"Teach them how to avoid our destructive footsteps. Teach them to strive for higher education. Teach them to promote peace and teach them to focus on rebuilding the neighbourhoods that you, others and I helped to destroy."

Rev. Jesse Jackson decried Williams' execution. Jackson said Williams saw himself in the end as a "healer, not a predator."

"Tookie is dead. We're not safer, we're not more secure, we're not more humane," Jackson said.

Robbins told the mourners he knew Williams only a short time but said he had "so much rage and so much anger" after his execution.

While on death row, Williams wrote children's books warning against gang life. Those efforts attracted supporters who lobbied for clemency, arguing Williams had redeemed himself. But Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was unconvinced, and refused to spare his life.

Several dozen gang members wearing blue attire associated with Crips gangs watched the funeral in the parking lot. One who identified himself as "Killowatt the Third," 33, estimated there were 20 to 30 Crips-affiliated gang members there to honour Williams.

"That's my role model, man. That's the CEO of the Crips," he said.

Al Birdsong, 54, a school security officer who waited for hours to get into the funeral, said Williams did not deserve to be executed after more than two decades in prison.

"I'm here to pay my respects to humanity, and that goes to Tookie and everyone else they do in. . . . What if it was your son?" Birdsong said.

"He's no different from any other human being. We all made mistakes."

Keelonnie Roberts, 23, said her father was a Crip who used to tell her tales of gang life. Although Roberts never met Williams, she said, "He seemed like a sweet man to me."

Mourner Rick Hayes, 36, of Compton, wore a T-shirt with the slogan, "What does redemption mean . . .," which he had made. If Williams was unable to earn clemency from the governor, "what can a black man do, what can he do in society, to get another chance at life?" Hayes asked.

In his will, Williams asked that his remains be cremated and the ashes scattered over South Africa.

Tuesday's ceremony was not the first public funeral for an executed inmate.

About 300 people attended a San Francisco service for Robert Alton Harris, a murderer whose 1992 execution was the first in 25 years after a death penalty ban and became a rallying point for opponents of capital punishment.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gangbangers; goodriddance; scumbag; stanleywilliams; targetrich; urbanbarbarians

1 posted on 12/20/2005 4:11:08 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

How many of these people would have attended the funerals of his victims?


2 posted on 12/20/2005 4:12:04 PM PST by CondorFlight
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To: Pikamax

"Mourners, including gang members flashing hand signs"

There are two million more black women than black men
in this country--and gangs and drugs are the reason why.


3 posted on 12/20/2005 4:12:56 PM PST by CondorFlight
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To: CondorFlight

None of them. One MOAB on this gathering of persons of inestimable value could potentially save billions in social services, prisons, and legal fees.


4 posted on 12/20/2005 4:13:43 PM PST by thoughtomator (Congrats Iraq!)
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To: Pikamax

This would be a great time to try out that face recognition software crossreferenced against outstanding warrants/mugshots...probably clear half the fugitive warrants.


5 posted on 12/20/2005 4:13:46 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: Pikamax

"...what can a black man do, what can he do in society, to get another chance at life?" Hayes asked."

Don't screw up your first chance.


6 posted on 12/20/2005 4:14:50 PM PST by duckman (I refuse to use a tag line...I mean it.)
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To: Pikamax
"Teach them how to avoid our destructive footsteps. Teach them to strive for higher education. Teach them to promote peace and teach them to focus on rebuilding the neighbourhoods that you, others and I helped to destroy."

Suprise, suprise.

Is a riot expected?

7 posted on 12/20/2005 4:15:16 PM PST by blam
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To: Pikamax
"What does redemption mean . . ., If Williams was unable to earn clemency from the governor, "what can a black man do, what can he do in society, to get another chance at life?" Hayes asked.

Uh...don't kill anybody?

8 posted on 12/20/2005 4:15:30 PM PST by Christian4Bush ("The only 'new tone' we hear should be that of the Left's telephone being disconnected. " dogcaller)
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To: Pikamax

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1544272/posts


9 posted on 12/20/2005 4:15:40 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Pikamax

Someone should have posted photos of his victims outside the place where his funeral was held.


10 posted on 12/20/2005 4:15:47 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Pikamax
"He's no different from any other human being. We all made mistakes."

Four murders is not a simple mistake, you idiot.

11 posted on 12/20/2005 4:17:06 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Pikamax

Some mistakes are bigger than others.


12 posted on 12/20/2005 4:17:50 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Pikamax

Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots.


13 posted on 12/20/2005 4:18:54 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Pikamax

So when do the riots start?


14 posted on 12/20/2005 4:18:58 PM PST by dc-zoo
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To: CondorFlight
There are two million more black women than black men in this country--and gangs and drugs are the reason why.

Actually, I think murder is the leading cause of death for black males under 24 years of age.

15 posted on 12/20/2005 4:20:22 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Pikamax
Several dozen gang members wearing blue attire associated with Crips gangs watched the funeral in the parking lot. One who identified himself as "Killowatt the Third," 33, estimated there were 20 to 30 Crips-affiliated gang members there to honour Williams.

But, but...that's impossible. Tookie "redeemed" himself and denounced gangs. There couldn't have possibly been crips present who were still members and who still victimize society contrary to Tookie's teachings (sarcasm off)

16 posted on 12/20/2005 4:21:22 PM PST by Gator101
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To: Pikamax
Had Williams lived, he would have become another black icon that would be just another drain on finances a-la Jesseh Jackson. At least two more 'programs' would have been developed and proposed 'for the chih-run', and nothing ... ab-so-tiv-ely nothing would come of it except maybe a tookie memorial park, hospital, day care center and/or rapper's museum.

(Way down deep inside, with nothing to prove it ... I believe his name is really TOKEy, but the media had to clean it up. Really, just a guess)

17 posted on 12/20/2005 4:22:44 PM PST by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: Pikamax

Thousands more Angelenos stayed away because they have no sympathy for cold-blooded murdering street thugs, no matter how hard the media and "community leaders" tried to reinvent a useless POS like Tookie.


18 posted on 12/20/2005 4:23:04 PM PST by La Enchiladita (What Child is this, who laid to rest in Mary's arms, is sleeping ....?)
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To: Pikamax

Tony Robbins?The motivational speaker?He's still around?


19 posted on 12/20/2005 4:23:33 PM PST by Thombo2
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To: Pikamax

"Tookie is dead. We're not safer, we're not more secure, we're not more humane," Jackson said.

HOW ABOUT STANDING UP FOR THE VICTIMS, JESSE? WHAT IF TOOKIE WAS WHITE, JESSE? WOULD YOU BE STANDING UP FOR HIM THEN?

"He's no different from any other human being. We all made mistakes."

MISTAKES? MISTAKES? THERE IS A LOT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAKING A "MISTAKE" AND KILLING SOMEBODY. MAKE IT SOUND LIKE HE "MADE A MATH ERROR" OR HE "CUT THE 2 X 4 THE WRONG LENGTH", ETC. MISTAKE MY EFFIN' @SS!

These guys build up the vein pressure.


20 posted on 12/20/2005 4:25:34 PM PST by Kenservatized
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To: Gator101
Before he ascended into heaven on the third day after his execution, Tookie left his followers with a message: UNLESS!


21 posted on 12/20/2005 4:33:00 PM PST by oblomov
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To: Pikamax
"That's my role model, man. That's the CEO of the Crips," he said.

That's enough reason to inject Tookie, right there. The man was the CEO of the Crips and therefore was partly responsible for the destruction of many of our countries black youth.

As a side note, is it true that Tookie's best selling Children's book sold a whopping 350 copies?

22 posted on 12/20/2005 4:33:58 PM PST by AlbertWang
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To: Pikamax

Oh, well, it's a free country, so let them have their rant. Justice was done, and anything else now is an afterthought.


23 posted on 12/20/2005 4:35:04 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Sam Alito Deserves To Be Confirmed)
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To: AlbertWang

Yep. On all points in your post. That quote from Killowatt the Third (nice name, I wonder if the "kill" in it was part of the attraction) speaks volumes on Tookie's legacy. As to his books, I heard the number was 333 sold. Definitely Nobel Prize material...


24 posted on 12/20/2005 4:38:52 PM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties and 'Rats: Over 3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: Pikamax

John Carlson, radio host in Seattle, asked a question something like this:

Which has done more harm to the vitality, integrity and future of blacks in America... The KKK or the Crips?


25 posted on 12/20/2005 4:39:02 PM PST by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1000 knives and counting!)
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"Tookie is dead. We're not safer, we're not more secure, we're not more humane," Jackson said.

Plus, we didn't cure cancer, we didn't stop the terrorists from bombing innocents, we didn't raise the SAT scores in the inner cities. But, Jesse, let's focus on what this execution was actually supposed to accomplish, rather than just speaking about pie-in-the-sky objectives. The execution of a convicted mass-murderer is society's ultimate act of retribution. It is civlized people standing up and saying, "What you did is totally unacceptable, and the only punishment commensurate with your violent deeds is the death penalty." It is justice served for the families of the victims, and for society as a whole. What the execution does accomplish is far more important than what it doesn't.

26 posted on 12/20/2005 4:39:54 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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If Williams was unable to earn clemency from the governor, "what can a black man do, what can he do in society, to get another chance at life?" Hayes asked.

Um, you could try not brutally murdering four people, laughing and boasting about their deaths, and then telling the jury who convicts you, "I'm going to get each and every one of you m______ f______rs."

27 posted on 12/20/2005 4:40:19 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Plus, we didn't cure cancer, we didn't stop the terrorists from bombing innocents, we didn't raise the SAT scores in the inner cities.

Lol.

28 posted on 12/20/2005 4:41:12 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: duckman

The murdered didn't get any such chance either.


29 posted on 12/20/2005 4:42:08 PM PST by bvw
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To: Pikamax

I'd like to know the names of those 300 who attended the public funeral of that hamburger-eater Robert Alton Harris in San Francisco.


30 posted on 12/20/2005 4:42:46 PM PST by Kitten Festival (The thug of Caracas has got to go.)
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To: Bon mots

I argue that the drug laws of the early 1900's are the one of earliest root cause of the current high rate of murder and incarceration. The Jim Crow laws contributed for many years, but that era is behind us -- what is left of the evil vintage of that era is the racism-birthed drug laws.


31 posted on 12/20/2005 4:45:51 PM PST by bvw
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To: Pikamax

At least Williams could have an "open casket." I don't think we can say that for his victims.


33 posted on 12/20/2005 4:52:00 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: Pikamax

"Killowatt the Third", a Crips member, was there. No doubt one of the brighter lights in the gang.


34 posted on 12/20/2005 4:55:41 PM PST by RTINSC (Being Offended is the Natural Consequence of Leaving Your Home...)
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To: ncountylee

>"He's no different from any other human being. We all made mistakes."

"He had iss-yews!"


35 posted on 12/20/2005 4:57:22 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: CondorFlight

...a large TV set up in the parking lot.
Probably Stolen.


36 posted on 12/20/2005 5:03:33 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Pikamax
Heavy crowd?

They barely filled a church, and 20 gang members showed up.

37 posted on 12/20/2005 5:07:00 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: kellynla
Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots.

I like that! Can I steal it for my tagline?

38 posted on 12/20/2005 5:14:13 PM PST by TFFKAMM
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To: dc-zoo
So when do the riots start?

They don't.

Google Australia or Toledo Ohio. You may find some there.

39 posted on 12/20/2005 5:15:08 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: Thombo2
I always thought Robbins was a big phony, guess I was right...
40 posted on 12/20/2005 5:17:52 PM PST by Left2Right ("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse")
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To: Kenservatized

If Tookie were white, Brotha' Jesse would spit in his coffee!


41 posted on 12/20/2005 6:35:05 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Left2Right

Those lefties are all a buch of phonies and hypocrites, and here is a perfect example. They all claim to be on the side of the little guy, to be a voice for the voiceless, etc., so what happens when a vicious thug brutally slays the manager of a small motel along with his wife and daughter and also kills a convenience store clerk? Guess who the Left defends? The MURDERER! Leftists make me sick!


42 posted on 12/20/2005 6:43:34 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: CondorFlight

Comming to a white "progressive" neighborhood near you!


43 posted on 12/20/2005 6:45:56 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: TFFKAMM

sure! LOL


44 posted on 12/20/2005 7:15:07 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Pikamax
Several dozen gang members wearing blue attire associated with Crips gangs watched the funeral in the parking lot. One who identified himself as "Killowatt the Third," 33, estimated there were 20 to 30 Crips-affiliated gang members there to honour Williams. "That's my role model, man. That's the CEO of the Crips," he said. I guess Tookie didn't have that much positive influence after all.
45 posted on 12/20/2005 8:05:53 PM PST by Roberts
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To: Left2Right

I always thought Robbins was a big phony..."I saw one of his infomercials a few years back.His personal story sounded kinda phony.His overcomming depression,adversity,etc,etc,and then becoming a "success".I thought he was ancient history.Maybe he's some kind of guru to the libs.


46 posted on 12/20/2005 8:12:50 PM PST by Thombo2
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To: Pikamax

Maybe Puffy Combs will do another thug got snuffed song parody with Sting.


47 posted on 12/20/2005 8:21:12 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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