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Gang-bangers, celebrities mourn Crips founder (barf alert)
MSNBC ^ | 12 20 05 | ap

Posted on 12/20/2005 5:29:12 PM PST by flixxx

LOS ANGELES - Hundreds of people attended a star-studded funeral Tuesday for executed killer Stanley Tookie Williams in the violence-wracked South Los Angeles section where he founded the murderous Crips gang three decades ago.

Under heavy police presence, mourners including gang members flashing hand signs waited in line to enter the 1,500-seat Bethel AME Church. A big TV screen was set up in a parking lot for an overflow crowd. Vendors sold T-shirts with Williams’ picture.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: capitalpunishment; crime; deathpenalty; hangemhigh; stanleywilliams; tookie
OK, I am opposed to the death penalty for a variety of reasons, but the LAW (and the death penalty is law in California) was applied appropriately in this case...I mean if anyone deserves to die, is it not the founder of one of the most destructive gangs the US has ever seen? Not losing any sleep over the 'loss' of Mr. Willaims
1 posted on 12/20/2005 5:29:12 PM PST by flixxx
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To: flixxx

I'm anti-death penalty, too, but I was laughing a lot during this situation. Why? Because of the "reasons" he shouldn't die--because he "helped kids turn away from gangs," but wouldn't rat out his fellow thugs who helped him found THE gang, because he was a "Nobel prize nominee," just like Hitler and Stalin, and because he "was sorry" but never admitted his guilt or apologized.


2 posted on 12/20/2005 5:31:42 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Warning: Adult language, but great Christmas message: http://foamy.libertech.net/noxmas.swf)
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To: flixxx

You are against the death penalty for the child molester who kidnapped the little girl from her home, raped her, and buried her alive?


3 posted on 12/20/2005 5:32:34 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: flixxx

Anyone have a list of who attended. I want to make damn sure none of money ever reaches these hollywood wacks ever again.


4 posted on 12/20/2005 5:36:19 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: OldFriend

Who was this?


5 posted on 12/20/2005 5:38:34 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Rudy Giuliani is pro partial birth abortion...just ask Sean Hannity.)
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To: flixxx

Or the parents who systematically hid, abused, and starved their son until he was 18 years old. Put him on a one way trip to Florida weighing 89 pounds. When he arrived he didn't know anyone or where to go so he ended up at some woman's house asking for water where he soon died. I'll never forget that story. Never in my life. I cry for that young man's heart everytime I think of it.


6 posted on 12/20/2005 5:39:45 PM PST by libertylass
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To: flixxx
I am opposed to the death penalty for a variety of reasons

If animals such as Tookie would have been executed within days of their sentencing rather than wasting taxpayers' money and time trying to game the system and earn sympathy from stupid liberals, then more people would be in favor of the death penalty.

Death sentences should be carried out within at least 90 days.

7 posted on 12/20/2005 5:40:02 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Darkwolf377
Crips turn out
Several dozen gang members wearing blue attire associated with Crips gangs watched the funeral in the parking lot. One who identified himself as “Killowatt the Third,” age 33, estimated there were 20 to 30 Crips-affiliated gangs there to honor Williams.

“That’s my role model, man. That’s the CEO of the Crips,” he said.

I guess some people didn't get the "message."

8 posted on 12/20/2005 5:40:52 PM PST by Rocko (Williams: Rest in Pieces)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Anyone have a list of who attended

Several dozen gang members wearing blue attire associated with Crips gangs watched the funeral in the parking lot. One who identified himself as “Killowatt the Third,” age 33, estimated there were 20 to 30 Crips-affiliated gangs there to honor Williams. “That’s my role model, man. That’s the CEO of the Crips,” he said.

Killowatt was there LOL

9 posted on 12/20/2005 5:41:53 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Or at least 5 years. They deserve the chance to appeal and our courts are very backed up. That way we know for sure they are guilty.........Tookie got 19 years more than he should have of life. God Bless the victims.


10 posted on 12/20/2005 5:42:10 PM PST by libertylass
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To: Names Ash Housewares
http://forums.ebay.com/db1/thread.jspa?threadID=1000163114&tstart=0&mod=1134678719607

Danny Glover and the usual suspects. Snoop a dupe from Girls Gone Wild fame, Jamie Foxx, etc.

11 posted on 12/20/2005 5:45:01 PM PST by libertylass
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To: flixxx
Victims of Tookie Williams
12 posted on 12/20/2005 5:54:16 PM PST by NWO Slave
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To: flixxx

"Snoop Dog told mourners, reciting a poem about the execution. The line 'I don't believe Stan did it' drew wild applause."

And yet Tookie said this..."teach them to rebuild the neighborhoods that you, others, and I helped to destroy."


13 posted on 12/20/2005 6:01:13 PM PST by Arpege92 ("When the wise is pointing to the moon, the frog looks at the finger.")
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To: paul51

"Killowatt was there LOL"

Does he support the electric chair?


14 posted on 12/20/2005 6:05:09 PM PST by jdm (I'm not blunting.)
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To: flixxx

His pack of dogs gives him a typical send off: (From IPN)

LAX| Los Angeles| Special| 506.8375| 79th-Western|LAPD Metro Div has mult elements deployed w/415 gang groups/shots fired-Tookie Williams Svc earlier| LAX019| 17:23


15 posted on 12/20/2005 6:14:26 PM PST by Right_Handed_Writer
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To: OldFriend; libertylass

Yes, still opposed to the death penalty...I do not think the State should be executing its citizens...the ultimate power of the government over people.

That does not mean that I want the convicted walking around my street or that I think they should have their freedom ever again...it comes down to my view of the power of the goverment.


16 posted on 12/20/2005 6:16:01 PM PST by flixxx
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To: flixxx

"I mean if anyone deserves to die, is it not the founder of one of the most destructive gangs the US has ever seen?"

I think he more deserves to die for, among other things, putting a 12-guage shotgun to an innocent family man's spine and pulling the trigger, but whatever works for ya.

Forgive my gallows humor here, but wouldn't this guys funeral been a perfect time for a carload of Bloods to ride by with an old "Chicago typewriter" and mow down like half of their rival gang at one time? (maybe taking out a few whiney libs in the process)

Bones


17 posted on 12/20/2005 6:16:33 PM PST by Bones75
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To: NWO Slave

thanks for the post...they have been forgotten by the media in this entire circus.


18 posted on 12/20/2005 6:17:02 PM PST by flixxx
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To: Bones75

Really surprised the Bloods did not try to kill him first...before he was executed...would have been a real coup for them...


19 posted on 12/20/2005 6:18:30 PM PST by flixxx
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To: flixxx

Since they're still interested, I say we dig him up and stick him in the chair again.


20 posted on 12/20/2005 6:20:22 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: Arpege92
"Snoop Dog told mourners, reciting a poem about the execution. The line 'I don't believe Stan did it' drew wild applause."

No wonder.

"The public viewing of his body attracted a sometimes rowdy crowd that spilled into the street, backing up traffic. Marijuana smoke wafted through the air as sport utility vehicles with 20-inch rims cruised past, rap music blaring at full volume."

21 posted on 12/20/2005 6:24:15 PM PST by Mojave
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To: NWO Slave
It says alleged victims - although there is no doubt.
22 posted on 12/20/2005 6:28:11 PM PST by fml
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To: flixxx

I respect your opinion, but disagree. This man was a cold-blooded killer. Neither you, me or anyone else could have guaranteed that he wouldn't kill again. Even in prison, there was a chance he could have snapped the neck of another inmate or prison guard (did you see those arms??!). Nineteen years of waiting was too much. Now, I can GUARANTEE we won't kill again.

Besides, Tookie was a fervent believer in the death penalty (he even carried it out himself) ... before it was his turn.


23 posted on 12/20/2005 6:36:28 PM PST by trublu
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To: flixxx
Tookie dookie.

Pure crap.

To hell with the POS.

May he rot in hell.

24 posted on 12/20/2005 6:38:13 PM PST by OldSmaj (Hey Islam...I flushed a koran today and I let my dog pp on it first. Come get me, moon bats!)
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To: trublu

Now, I can GUARANTEE HE won't kill again. (not "we" -- I'm a terrible typist!)


25 posted on 12/20/2005 6:38:19 PM PST by trublu
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To: Mojave
Where was the new evidence at ? Today would have a good day to show it to us all. Where were all those "kids" that decided to not become gang members because of Tookies writing?All talk & no show except for acting like fools for the MSM.Of course Jessi & feracon was there to bask in the spot light!!What a fitting end for a gang leader.
26 posted on 12/20/2005 6:40:27 PM PST by pitbully (Let Freedom Ring)
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To: pitbully
What a fitting end for a gang leader.

Paupers field would have made it even more fitting.

27 posted on 12/20/2005 6:42:58 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave
I wonder who paid for Tookies funeral ? Islam ? Better them than the tax paying Californians.
28 posted on 12/20/2005 6:51:06 PM PST by pitbully (Let Freedom Ring)
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To: paul51


Kilowatt showed up, but he was a little too late:


29 posted on 12/20/2005 7:21:20 PM PST by kenth (Come back here... so that I may brain thee!)
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To: flixxx
Willie Horton and his weekend passes aside.......in NJ two men executed two police officers in a bar. It was a vicious horrific crime. One died in a shootout and the other was captured. He was convicted and given the death penalty. When the USSupreme Court overturned the death penalty this cop killer had his death penalty converted to life in prison without parole.

NJ decided he needed a parole hearing and he was released from prison.

He soon had a job in the cafeteria of one of our county high schools.

Sound okay to you?

30 posted on 12/20/2005 7:54:52 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall
Sex offender in Florida. Entered the nearby home of the little girl. Took her from her bed, raped her and buried her alive.

His family bought him a bus ticket out of town but he was captured and is now awaiting trial.

Death is the only just punishment for what he did to that little girl. He kept her captive for several days before burying her alive.

31 posted on 12/20/2005 7:56:35 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: flixxx

The Tookster forfeited his right to exist as a citizen in any civilized society.


32 posted on 12/20/2005 7:59:10 PM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: flixxx

Several dozen gang members wearing blue attire associated with Crips gangs watched the funeral in the parking lot. One who identified himself as “Killowatt the Third,” age 33, estimated there were 20 to 30 Crips-affiliated gangs there to honor Williams.

“That’s my role model, man. That’s the CEO of the Crips,” he said


------And if this murderer is the best role model you have to look up to, then you will probably end up right where he is and a bunch of ignorant hollywood ass clowns ,along with the others that idolize him will attend your memorial. Do any of you think of the people he killed?


33 posted on 12/20/2005 8:14:39 PM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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To: trublu

The way I understand it is the guards were afraid of him and he had threatened their families (via his gang) which is why he had special priviliges many on death row do not receive. A lot came out last week after he was dead and they no longer had to fear him.


34 posted on 12/20/2005 8:15:47 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: pitbully

Bet it was Jessie or Loonie Louie... he had on a silk suit?


35 posted on 12/20/2005 8:16:59 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: flixxx

I am sorry to see that there are several jerks on FR who "oppose the death penalty." I don't know what anyone can mean by such a sweeping statement. It is the sort of brainless principle that one would expect an airhead liberal to come out with.

Life is a struggle for survival, and evil is one of the things we must face, fight, and defeat. Otherwise life means nothing.

To be really pro-life, you must be for the death penalty for muderers.

The alternative is not only to lose the deterent value. Without a death penalty, there will be revenge killings. Already we are at that point. The whole reason for law is to avoid anarchy and vendettas. That is why the state must close murder cases with just executions.

I am also for forgiveness. If the criminal repents, I will forgive him. Then we can proceed with the execution.


36 posted on 12/20/2005 8:23:50 PM PST by docbnj
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To: docbnj

I really could never fathom how a conservative could really believe that the State should be given the authority to execute its citizens. I understand the arguments on both sides of the issue...I do not oppose the death penalty for the reasons the oblivions who were out 'supporting Tookie' do, but for what I believe are core conservative precepts. The issue of the relationship between State and the individual or citizen.

My God, we get very upset (and rightly so) when the SCOTUS supported taking someone's land for eminent domain for the good of society, but we do agree with the State executions?

I do not see myself as a bleeding heart liberal for having this view.


37 posted on 12/20/2005 9:35:09 PM PST by flixxx
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To: Rocko

That's what I was thinking. If Tookie had been such a changing force re gang involvement of youth, the gangs would be history. Doesn't look like he had much effect, but, like 21st century public education, he tried, so he deserves a pass.


38 posted on 12/20/2005 10:32:55 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: OldFriend

Thanks for your reply. I didn't hear of this before now. This is sickening.


39 posted on 12/21/2005 7:35:34 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Rudy Giuliani is pro partial birth abortion...just ask Sean Hannity.)
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