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Posthumously yours, Stanley Williams*
Ventura County Star ^ | 12/20/05 | David Howard

Posted on 12/20/2005 6:35:59 PM PST by Rabid Dog

Posthumously yours, Stanley Williams* By David Howard December 20, 2005

NOTE: David Howard, of Ojai, is a peace activist and writer who held a candle for Williams at the Ventura County Government Center on the night of the execution.

Dear Arnold Schwarzenegger, I've been dead for a few days now. You've probably already forgotten about me and moved on to more important matters like condemning gay marriage, helping the Minutemen keep Mexicans out of California, and preparing another diatribe to deny clemency to Clarence Allen, the 75-year-old blind Choctaw Indian you'll execute Jan. 17.

Still, I beseech you -- once again -- to take a moment from your busy schedule. I have something important to tell you: I forgive you for murdering me. Here's why:

First, I forgive you because I realize it's not personal. You're just a ventriloquist's puppet for special interests that couldn't care less about individual lives like mine or those of the at-risk youth I would have continued to help had I lived.

You, Arnold, are beholden to the military-industrial-prison gang that has turned the United States into the per-capita incarceration capital of the world, a country only outdone in executions by Iran, China and Vietnam.

Second, I forgive you because I understand that shallow, unprincipled politicians can't really be blamed for lashing out as you did.

Jesus said, "Forgive them; they know not what they do." You know not what you do. You don't get what's wrong with state-sanctioned ritual murder. You don't get why rehabilitation and redemption are better than blood vengeance. And you don't get why so many people thought my trial was hopelessly tainted by racism.

Third, I forgive you because it's not for me to judge. Ultimately, Arnold, you don't answer to Stanley Williams. You answer to history. My legacy is a series of beautiful children's books and a peace treaty between violent street gangs. What's yours?

Fourth, I forgive you because I, too, must take responsibility for your empowerment. There's some wisdom in the proverb, "People get the government they deserve." Our apathy, despair, lack of organization and appetite for simple-minded diversion helped elect you and your brutalizing political agenda.

Fifth, I forgive you because I refuse to seek revenge on my fellow human beings. After my redemption, I lived for reconciliation, healing and justice. I took a vow never to hurt anyone.

Sixth, I forgive you because I never give up hope. I hope and pray you may still learn to do the right thing. Trust me, there are always opportunities for redemption, even for you. It's never too late to renounce violence and injustice.

Finally, I forgive you because I have compassion for you. I know that deep down inside you, there is a goodness that suffers because you killed me. I no longer have time to figure out how you became the wounded narcissist that you are, but I know it's not the real you. You're better than that, Arnold. May God have mercy on your soul.

* Stanley Tookie Williams was channeled by David Howard, of Ojai, a peace activist and writer who held a candle for Williams at the Ventura County Government Center on the night of the execution.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: megabarf; stanleywilliams; tookie; whowritesthiscrap
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I just couldn't resist. Enjoy!
1 posted on 12/20/2005 6:36:00 PM PST by Rabid Dog
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To: Bernard Marx; pacpam; hoppity; MayflowerMadam; capitan_refugio; Kviteseid; Val E. Girl; merry10; ...

Calling all Ventura County channelers! Have you also received a message from "Tookie"?


2 posted on 12/20/2005 6:37:24 PM PST by Rabid Dog
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To: Rabid Dog
[ v o m i t ]

3 posted on 12/20/2005 6:37:24 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Rabid Dog
Dear Arnold Schwarzenegger, I've been dead for a few days now.

"You" can't "be" dead, because there is no more "you" to "be."

4 posted on 12/20/2005 6:40:00 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Rabid Dog
Bwahahaha!
This was very amusing. Thanks for posting it.
5 posted on 12/20/2005 6:40:01 PM PST by starfish923 ( Socratesn-- It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: Rabid Dog
Tookie killed.

Tookie got killed.

That's the way the Tookie crumbles.

6 posted on 12/20/2005 6:40:39 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Rabid Dog

I think he will always be known for founding a major street gang, not making some temporary peace treaty between them.

D


7 posted on 12/20/2005 6:41:24 PM PST by daviddennis (;)
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To: Rabid Dog
My legacy is a series of beautiful children's books and a peace treaty between violent street gangs. What's yours?

- One of the greatest action stars in film history

- Greatest bodybuilder of all time

- Elected Governor in a historic recall

- Made millions of dollars legally, instead of shooting innocent people and getting a measly few hundred dollars illegally

STFU Mr. Howard - there's no comparison. Quit being a tool defending a dirt bag who finally took a dirt nap.

8 posted on 12/20/2005 6:41:51 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Rabid Dog
I wonder if it's ever occurred to this guy to grieve for any of the 45million+ innocent victims of abortion.

Probably not, they never murdered anybody.
9 posted on 12/20/2005 6:43:21 PM PST by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Rabid Dog
Here's a better title.

Up yours Tookie!


10 posted on 12/20/2005 6:43:25 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Rabid Dog

This article is reason enough to break out a second bottle of bubbly to celebrate the execution of the evil monster formerly known as Tookie.


11 posted on 12/20/2005 6:43:41 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Rabid Dog

That's weird. I was just channeling Tookie and he said NOTHING like that. He just muttered something about popping a cap in Arnold's ass. I'll try again --maybe I can get to the bottom of this.


12 posted on 12/20/2005 6:43:42 PM PST by trublu
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To: Rabid Dog
You're just a ventriloquist's puppet for special interests that couldn't care less about individual lives like mine or those of the at-risk youth I would have continued to help had I lived.

How many "at-risk" youth did Stanley help? Name names, show lists of those he "helped". Let's have it, liberal lurkers.

13 posted on 12/20/2005 6:43:49 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Warning: Adult language, but great Christmas message: http://foamy.libertech.net/noxmas.swf)
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To: Rabid Dog

Good Lord, what a vomit-inducing load of clap-trap. This clown need professional help STAT.


14 posted on 12/20/2005 6:44:53 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: Lizavetta

He's dead, Jim.


15 posted on 12/20/2005 6:44:55 PM PST by brivette
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To: Rabid Dog
My legacy is a series of beautiful children's books and a peace treaty between violent street gangs.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

Forgive my previous post, I didn't know this was humor!

16 posted on 12/20/2005 6:45:06 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Warning: Adult language, but great Christmas message: http://foamy.libertech.net/noxmas.swf)
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To: daviddennis
Eye for an Eye, Tough Tookie you got what you gave.
You will forgotten except for the fools that followed you. The victims family's will always remember you, but not by their choice.
17 posted on 12/20/2005 6:46:06 PM PST by pitbully (Let Freedom Ring)
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To: Rabid Dog

I wore my Happy Tookie Day button!


18 posted on 12/20/2005 6:46:09 PM PST by opbuzz (Right way, wrong way, Marine way)
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To: Darkwolf377

Ok, I just got back from channeling Tookie again. He couldn't talk much, he was playing bridge with Jesus, Ghandi, and Nobel Peace Prize winner Yassir Arafat. He claims he was misquoted...told me to tell Arnold not to show his face in the afterlife.


20 posted on 12/20/2005 6:49:01 PM PST by trublu
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To: Darkwolf377

Fifth, I forgive you because I refuse to seek revenge on my fellow human beings.

Yes, revenge is wrong. And unmotivated murder is okay, right?


21 posted on 12/20/2005 6:49:06 PM PST by confederate_infidel (Tunafish: tastes like Santa's reindeer.)
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To: Rabid Dog
Hey, Tookie:

The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out,

The worms play pinochle on your snout.....

The next time I'm out in Cali (that is, if I'm ever am forced at gunpoint to go there), someone remind me to shotgun a six-pack of Pabst and go water the flowers on his grave.......


22 posted on 12/20/2005 6:49:44 PM PST by Viking2002 (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: Rabid Dog

Dang! First he writes children's books, and now this.


I'm betting he played just as much role in writing the children's books, as he did this.


23 posted on 12/20/2005 6:49:57 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Rabid Dog

Oh Wow. This David Howard guy is a nutcase


24 posted on 12/20/2005 6:50:39 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Rabid Dog

Thanks for the post. Each time I think this has about reached it's zenith in offensive capacity, I'm startled to find how wrong I was.

This guy is going to be with us for a long long time.


26 posted on 12/20/2005 6:51:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: Rabid Dog

If they like tookie so much why dont they give Arnold credit ? Since, now according to google; tookie is more popular than Rosa Parks by a 3:1 margin:

3,330,000 for "rosa parks"
9,980,000 for "tookie"


27 posted on 12/20/2005 6:51:30 PM PST by seastay
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To: Rabid Dog
Come on man, maybe if you had sent this whole article through the Ebonics Translator, then I might for a second think it was the Great Tookie Monster speaking.

For instance,

Before Translation: Tookie was a fine, well intentioned, innocent, young man.

After Translation: Tookie wuz uh fine, well intentioned, innocent, young bruh. peep this $hit

Much more believable.
28 posted on 12/20/2005 6:51:44 PM PST by proud_yank ("The government dole will rot your soul" --Stan Rogers, 'The Idiot')
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To: Lizavetta

That is so rich!


29 posted on 12/20/2005 6:52:07 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears….will plow for those who don’t.)
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Tookie elevated to the level of Jesus on the eve of Christmas.


30 posted on 12/20/2005 6:52:38 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

That's just nasty dawg. (See? I'm practcing my slang...son!)


31 posted on 12/20/2005 6:52:39 PM PST by confederate_infidel (Tunafish: tastes like Santa's reindeer.)
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To: Rabid Dog
Third, I forgive you

Forgiveness from a mass murderer is not required or desired.

32 posted on 12/20/2005 6:53:41 PM PST by jess35
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To: Rabid Dog


1. Athens Park Boys 2. Bishop 3. Black Stone 4. Bloods 5. Bounty Hunters 6. Brims 7. Compton crip 8. Crips "Cousin" 9. Crip 10. East 11. F*ck You 12. Harlem Crip 13. Hoover Crip 14. Kitchen Crip 15. Mafia Crip 16. Mafia Crips 17. Number Zero 18. Number One 19. Bloods ( Piru Street Bloods) 20. Power 21. Primo 22. Underground Crip 23. Victory

Guess Tookie won't be needing these gang signs any longer.
33 posted on 12/20/2005 6:54:23 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (In Memory of Crockett Nicolas, hit and run in the prime of his Cocker Spaniel life, 9/3/05.)
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To: proud_yank
Before: Finally, I forgive you because I have compassion for you. I know that deep down inside you, there is a goodness that suffers because you killed me. I no longer have time to figure out how you became the wounded narcissist that you are, but I know it's not the real you. You're better than that, Arnold. May God have mercy on your soul.

After: Finally, I forgive ya cuz I gots compassion fo' ya. I know dat deep down inside ya, dere iz uh goodness dat suffers cuz ya ganked me. I nahh longer gots tyme ta figure out how ya became da wounded narcissist dat ya iz, but I know it'snot da real ya. You're bettah than dat, Arnold. May God gots mercy on yo' soul. slap mah fro!
34 posted on 12/20/2005 6:54:31 PM PST by proud_yank ("The government dole will rot your soul" --Stan Rogers, 'The Idiot')
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To: Rabid Dog

It's kind of over, Folks. Gloating about his demise and making jokes about it is up there with him laughing about the people he killed.
Is it OK because WE do it?
I thought we were better than that here.
It is just not so funny, anymore.


35 posted on 12/20/2005 6:56:26 PM PST by Nothometoday
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To: trublu
Ok, I just got back from channeling Tookie again. He couldn't talk much, he was playing bridge with Jesus, Ghandi, and Nobel Peace Prize winner Yassir Arafat. He claims he was misquoted...told me to tell Arnold not to show his face in the afterlife.

ROFLMAO! Did John Edward of 'Crossing Over' help you achieve this feat?
36 posted on 12/20/2005 6:57:36 PM PST by proud_yank ("The government dole will rot your soul" --Stan Rogers, 'The Idiot')
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To: Rabid Dog
First, I forgive you because I realize it's not personal. You're just a ventriloquist's puppet for special interests that couldn't care less about individual lives

Way beyond irony, even beyond farce.

37 posted on 12/20/2005 6:59:11 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Rabid Dog

This is appropriate-from Black Sabbath


Hand of Doom
What you gonna do
Time's caught up with you
Now you wait your turn
You know there's no return

Change your empty rules
You join the other fools
Turn to something new
Now it's killing you

First it was the bomb, Vietnam napalm
Disillusioning, you push the needle in
From life you escape, reality's black drape
Colours in your mind satisfy your time

Oh you, you know you must be blind
To do something like this
To take the sweet that you don't know
You're giving Death a kiss
Poor little fool now

Your mind is full of pleasure
Your body's looking ill
To you it's shallow leisure
So drop the acid pill
Don't stop to think now

You're having a good time baby
But that won't last
Your mind's all full of things
You're living too fast
Go out, enjoy yourself
Don't bottle it in
You need someone to help you
Stick the needle in, yeah

Now you know the scene
Your skin starts turning green
Your eyes no longer seeing life's reality
Push the needle in
Face death's sickly grin
Holes are in your skin
Caused by deadly pin

Head starts spinning 'round
You fall down to the ground
Feel your body heave
Death hand starts to weave

It's too late to turn
You don't want to learn
Price of life is high
Now you're gonna die


38 posted on 12/20/2005 6:59:37 PM PST by hercuroc
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To: Rabid Dog
You've probably already forgotten about me...

Not from lack of trying, but this Tookie dookie just keeps coming up.

To hell with you, Tookie.

39 posted on 12/20/2005 7:01:29 PM PST by OldSmaj (Hey Islam...I flushed a koran today and I let my dog pp on it first. Come get me, moon bats!)
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The Governator replies,

"Tookie, you dead murdering racist SOB, you are DEAD!, KAPUT!, deceased, canceled, voided, lawfully executed, worm food, room temperature, cremated, and... you are in HELL, (no redemption without remorse, without changing, plus HE read those crappy books, so...)"Tookie" you are in HELL!, and, ""Tookie, you will NEVER murder anyone again."
40 posted on 12/20/2005 7:02:42 PM PST by porkchops 4 mahound ("Si vis pacem, para bellum", If you wish peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Rabid Dog
You've probably already forgotten about me

Who is Tookie?

41 posted on 12/20/2005 7:04:29 PM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, I'll stand my ground and I won’t back down)
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To: trublu
That's weird. I was just channeling Tookie and he said NOTHING like that. He just muttered something about popping a cap in Arnold's ass. I'll try again --maybe I can get to the bottom of this.

Ow... ow... my stomach's starting to hurt... rotfl... !!!

42 posted on 12/20/2005 7:04:35 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Rabid Dog

David is going to have an interesting afterlife.
May God grant whatever mercy he decides David deserves.
In abundance.


43 posted on 12/20/2005 7:05:19 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: Lizavetta
That's the way the Tookie crumbles.

Tookie rhyming with Cookie...that's the way Jesse pronounced it (past tense - Jesse's also iced it and moved on)

44 posted on 12/20/2005 7:05:33 PM PST by ErnBatavia (I post in slang..live with it or ignore it - reader's choice.)
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To: Rabid Dog
What a heart rendering and touching projection from Mr Howard of "Ojay" (interesting name, ehhh?)... and the best part is that he involkes the name of our savior, Jesus Christ, in condemning Governor Arnold as being "judged by history". Now if that in iself isn't a contradiction, using the sacred name of Christ to make a secular statement, then what is? And besides, I thought all these lefties didn't believe in Christ or God .... b-b-but Tookie is 'for the children', so for this he is redempt.

/rant off ... /BS off

45 posted on 12/20/2005 7:06:02 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Nothometoday

I agree with you; the self defense rights of a state against this type of heinous crime is nothing to gloat or joke about but at same time supporters who are painting this as a racism issue, while assigning more importance to tookie than Rosa Parks, seems to me there is something wrong and hypocritical here that needs to be addressed by the free press since the mainstream press wont touch it and in some instances is taking sides of organized crime.


46 posted on 12/20/2005 7:07:10 PM PST by seastay
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Some pictures have more "life" to them than others...that one is one that definitely gives the feelin'...


47 posted on 12/20/2005 7:08:34 PM PST by ErnBatavia (I post in slang..live with it or ignore it - reader's choice.)
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To: Rabid Dog

This dingbat needs to be put away for his own safety. I wonder if Tookie's old cell is available?


48 posted on 12/20/2005 7:09:23 PM PST by billhilly (Demo camo is yellow and white)
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To: Rabid Dog

Sure he has sympathy for murderers..he lives in O-J.


49 posted on 12/20/2005 7:09:41 PM PST by steve8714
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To: Rabid Dog

Dear David Howard,

We have been turned into the "per-capita incarceration capital of the world" by a violent, primitive culture and our refusal to adhere to Western culture. Stanley was part of the problem, not the solution.


50 posted on 12/20/2005 7:09:57 PM PST by ExpatGator (Progressivism: A polyp on the colon politic.)
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