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BUSH'S SNOOPGATE - Jonathan Alter's Newsweek Web-Exclusive Commentary
Newsweek On-Line ^ | 12/19/05 | Jonathan Alter

Posted on 12/21/2005 5:25:25 AM PST by Kimberly GG

WEB-EXCLUSIVE COMMENTARY By Jonathan Alter Newsweek Updated: 6:17 p.m. ET Dec. 19, 2005

Dec. 19, 2005 - Finally we have a Washington scandal that goes beyond sex, corruption and political intrigue to big issues like security versus liberty and the reasonable bounds of presidential power. President Bush came out swinging on Snoopgate—he made it seem as if those who didn’t agree with him wanted to leave us vulnerable to Al Qaeda—but it will not work. We’re seeing clearly now that Bush thought 9/11 gave him license to act like a dictator, or in his own mind, no doubt, like Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War.

No wonder Bush was so desperate that The New York Times not publish its story on the National Security Agency eavesdropping on American citizens without a warrant, in what lawyers outside the administration say is a clear violation of the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. I learned this week that on December 6, Bush summoned Times publisher Arthur Sulzberger and executive editor Bill Keller to the Oval Office in a futile attempt to talk them out of running the story. The Times will not comment on the meeting, but one can only imagine the president’s desperation.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agitprop; alter; bush; bushhasser; dnctalkingpoints; doublestandard; fisa; goebbelswouldbeproud; homelandsecurity; lyingliar; mediabias; newsweak; nsa; nyt; overplayedhand; patriotleak; propaganda; spying; zogbyism

1 posted on 12/21/2005 5:25:26 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: Kimberly GG

http://www.radioblogger.com/#001242


2 posted on 12/21/2005 5:27:11 AM PST by pookie18 ((Hillary Rotten) Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: Kimberly GG

..yawn......


3 posted on 12/21/2005 5:27:18 AM PST by Chuck54 (Free Scooter, Indict Joe W)
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To: Kimberly GG

Newsweek. Now there's a winner. I'm old enough to remember a time when Newsweek and Time were respected publications and not tabloids. And MTV used to show videos too.


4 posted on 12/21/2005 5:28:41 AM PST by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: Kimberly GG
—he made it seem as if those who didn’t agree with him wanted to leave us vulnerable to Al Qaeda—

Hey johnny jihad altar, that is exactly what you want to do. You and your liberal democrat cohorts.

5 posted on 12/21/2005 5:29:24 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Kimberly GG

CLINTON ADMINISTRATION SECRET SEARCH ON AMERICANS -- WITHOUT COURT ORDER

CARTER EXECUTIVE ORDER: 'ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE' WITHOUT COURT ORDER

Bill Clinton Signed Executive Order that allowed Attorney General to do searches without court approval

Clinton, February 9, 1995: "The Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order"

WASH POST, July 15, 1994: Extend not only to searches of the homes of U.S. citizens but also -- in the delicate words of a Justice Department official -- to "places where you wouldn't find or would be unlikely to find information involving a U.S. citizen... would allow the government to use classified electronic surveillance techniques, such as infrared sensors to observe people inside their homes, without a court order."

Deputy Attorney General Jamie S. Gorelick, the Clinton administration believes the president "has inherent authority to conduct warrantless searches for foreign intelligence purposes."

Secret searches and wiretaps of Aldrich Ames's office and home in June and October 1993, both without a federal warrant.

Jimmy Carter Signed Executive Order on May 23, 1979: "Attorney General is authorized to approve electronic surveillance to acquire foreign intelligence information without a court order."

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6 posted on 12/21/2005 5:29:53 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Kimberly GG

The unrelenting search by the left for something on Bush so they may return to their favorite sports: Denigrating the United States and redistribution of other peoples' money.


7 posted on 12/21/2005 5:30:14 AM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: P-40
Newsweek. Now there's a winner. I'm old enough to remember a time when Newsweek and Time were respected publications and not tabloids. And MTV used to show videos too.

Man, you are old!

Merry Christmas!

8 posted on 12/21/2005 5:30:16 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: Kimberly GG
No, Bush was desperate to keep the Times from running this important story—which the paper had already inexplicably held for a year—because he knew that it would reveal him as a law-breaker. He insists he had “legal authority derived from the Constitution and congressional resolution authorizing force.” But the Constitution explicitly requires the president to obey the law. And the post 9/11 congressional resolution authorizing “all necessary force” in fighting terrorism was made in clear reference to military intervention. It did not scrap the Constitution and allow the president to do whatever he pleased in any area in the name of fighting terrorism.

And the lies continue to mount. BTW, don't all Jonathan Alter columns require a "barf alert" warning? (LOL)

9 posted on 12/21/2005 5:30:40 AM PST by randita
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To: Kimberly GG

How does Jonathan Alter know the subject of the taps were American citizens as he claims?

Some might have been and then none may have been. How does he know?


10 posted on 12/21/2005 5:33:07 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: P-40

nevermind the fact if you are going to give Alter, a writer for the Nation, space in newsweak, at least be consistent and let sean hannity or mark levine write a column....


11 posted on 12/21/2005 5:33:15 AM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Kimberly GG
This should untie W's hands and he should start releasing Clintoon violations of the law, should be many thousand pages, Gorelic o
ought to be very afraid.
12 posted on 12/21/2005 5:33:27 AM PST by boomop1
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To: Kimberly GG

LOL, a Carter speech writer helping the emeny?

Working for Newsweek?

"Yawn" is right!


13 posted on 12/21/2005 5:33:51 AM PST by roses of sharon ("I would rather men ask why I have no statue, than why I have one". ) (Cato the Elder)
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To: Kimberly GG

This man is dispicable. I think what we IMMEDIATELY need to do is to switch from defense to offense.

Enough explaining to these morons that what Bush did was perfectly legal and enough trying to justify it based on what past President's have done.

Our focus (and that of the Bush Administration) needs to immediately change to OFFENSE. I'd like to see all Republican leadership who appear on tv, no matter what the reason, discuss our determination to discover WHO is responsible for leaking this information and on the steps that need to be taken to punish them to the fullest extent of the law.

I certainly hope that the Republican leadership does NOT allow themselves to remain on the defense about this for months and months to come. Real crimes have been committed and must be prosecuted, our lives may depend on it.


14 posted on 12/21/2005 5:34:17 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: Kimberly GG

Alter will be on the Bill O'Reilly radio show today. Whether you like Bill or not, he will chew Alter up and spit him out.


15 posted on 12/21/2005 5:34:40 AM PST by Buffettfan
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To: Kimberly GG

"Finally we have a Washington scandal that goes beyond sex, corruption...."

I thought he was going to say...."And goes into the mysterious death of a White House lawyer, whose body was found laying in an odd position, holding a gun, with carpet fibers all over his body, in Ft Marcy Park."

Or...."And goes into the mysterious death of the Secretary of Commerce, who was killed in a plane that for some odd reason, did not have a black-box...the secretary's briefcase, which purportedly held evidence of administration trading of seats on commerce trips in exchange for political donations, has not been found."

Or.... "And goes into the mysterious disappearance of top-secret files from America's Sandia labs..."

Or... "And goes into the transfer of missle technology from Loral (a big contributor) to Communist China."

But nooooooooooooo!!!


16 posted on 12/21/2005 5:36:19 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: Kimberly GG

Before he sits down to write this tripe, does Jonny-boy take vicadin?


17 posted on 12/21/2005 5:37:20 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: All

wow.....you were faster than I was at replying to my own post.

This article was a topic of discussion on O'Reilly last night. Obviously Atler did not appear, so I went hunting for this article.

Yes.....I should have added GAG, GAG, GAG


18 posted on 12/21/2005 5:37:23 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: Kimberly GG
"Dec. 19, 2005 - Finally we have a Washington scandal that goes beyond sex, corruption and political intrigue to big issues like security versus liberty and the reasonable bounds of presidential power."


That word "finally" says all need be said. These liberal have designed a scandal they can all be proud of. Reminds me of the euphoria on the evolution thread where a federal judge said "GOD" is not allowed in a science class. Man in all his/her naked glory, VANITY of Vanities!!!!!!

"What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?
19 posted on 12/21/2005 5:38:28 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: pookie18

Man, Hewitt eviscerated Alter -- great stuff!


20 posted on 12/21/2005 5:39:31 AM PST by randita
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To: Buffettfan
O'Reilly is fun to watch. When someone tries to BS him he can go to the throat as well as anyone.

I also heard part of Hannity's radio show on Monday that was hosted by a sub named Mark Simone - that guy is great. Probably one of the best interviewers I've heard. He is relentless at getting a question answered. He will not tolerate spin and he is loaded with facts.

21 posted on 12/21/2005 5:40:54 AM PST by Baynative (There’s no normal life, Wyatt, there’s just life. Now get on with it. -Doc Holiday)
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To: randita

Alter, the lefty loon, will be on with O'Reilly tonight...unfortunately not for as long as Hewitt had him. Bill already lit into his comments last night.


22 posted on 12/21/2005 5:44:20 AM PST by pookie18 ((Hillary Rotten) Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: randita

Yes, he really showed how completely ill-informed Alter was on very topic he was writing.


23 posted on 12/21/2005 5:45:05 AM PST by guinnessman
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To: P-40

"Newsweek. Now there's a winner."....Alter,Alterman same litter box........The Oliphants same.........


24 posted on 12/21/2005 5:46:56 AM PST by litehaus
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To: Kimberly GG

I'm still waiting on Michael Moore's analysis of this. And what about Wavy Gravy, has he chimed in yet? Kanye West?

About as legit as a Jonathan Alter Newsweek piece.


25 posted on 12/21/2005 5:47:59 AM PST by Jhensy
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To: Kimberly GG

Never trust anyone who always looks like they're ready to burst into tear. Alter has a permanent pout on his face.


26 posted on 12/21/2005 5:51:03 AM PST by Ikemeister
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To: Kimberly GG
If President Bush acted like a dictator Jonathan Alter would be in prison.

Now that I think about it, if we enforced the sedition laws Jonathan Alter would be in prison.

27 posted on 12/21/2005 5:56:28 AM PST by Thom Pain (Supporting the Constitution is NOT right wing. It is centrist.)
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To: Kimberly GG

Nobody believes anything this Leftie says anymore. he couldn't review Mary Mapes book in the NYT Review of Books without talking out of both sides of his mouth.


28 posted on 12/21/2005 6:03:42 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Ikemeister

This punk was on Imus a few years ago and asked Imus where he got the tapes of Richard Nixon and General Patton. Imus had to inform him that they were done by his staff, that Nixon and Patton were dead. He is so out of it that he can only write for a rag like Newsweek.


29 posted on 12/21/2005 6:03:49 AM PST by mortal19440
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To: Jhensy
... I'm still waiting on Michael Moore's analysis of this. And what about Wavy Gravy, has he chimed in yet? Kanye West? ...

And Tookie William's opinion ....... no ..... wait .....
30 posted on 12/21/2005 6:05:49 AM PST by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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To: Kimberly GG

Alter=liberal agenda!

Alter does not work for me.


31 posted on 12/21/2005 6:07:16 AM PST by JFC (W, I am with YA)
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To: conservativecorner

Every President since Roosevelt has asserted and exercised the inherent authority to wiretap foreign powers for national security purposes without a warrant.

Alter's entire opinion on the subject is based on a completely false premise, namely that it is illegal and unconstitutional for a President to do this. To the contrary, no court considering the question has ever said that, and all courts commenting on the subject have expressly recognized the President's inherent authority. Congress in passing FISA and the 9/14/01 resolution also recognized the President's inherent authority. Congress has no authority to impair the President's inherent Article II powers. If resort must be made to the statute, the use of force was authorized, and this type of surveillance is inherent in and a necessary concomitant to the use of force, just like detention was found to be in the Hamdi (or is Hamdan) case.

So, the lefty position on this issue is wrong, ignorant and stoopid. God Bless Hugh Hewitt, and thanks to Jonathan Alter for revealing himself to be such a clown. The left's position is also extremely dangerous and extremely foolish politically. Their platform now consists of a high pitched nasal whine that George Bush is awfully mean to terrorists. Yes, he certainly is.

Strategery or not, the left has now rushed into a position which is wrong, stupid, dangerous, and politically insane. Right where we want 'em. Life is Good!


32 posted on 12/21/2005 6:14:37 AM PST by Buckhead
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To: Just mythoughts
"Dec. 19, 2005 - Finally we have a Washington scandal that goes beyond sex, corruption and political intrigue to big issues like security versus liberty and the reasonable bounds of presidential power."

Yeah, and I bet Alter has written countless columns demanding the release of the Barrett Report also - NOT.

33 posted on 12/21/2005 6:16:15 AM PST by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Kimberly GG

NewsLEAK...Sen. Levin, call your office!


34 posted on 12/21/2005 6:16:18 AM PST by meandog (FUDU)
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To: mortal19440
asked Imus where he got the tapes of Richard Nixon and General Patton

Alter must have missed Bartlett's tagline: "This is the LATE Richard M. Nixon".

What a doofus!

35 posted on 12/21/2005 6:32:11 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: dirtboy
"......the reasonable bounds of presidential power."


Obviously the Barrett report fits within the Clintons "reasonable bounds of presidential power". See there is never too much power when a liberal is in office and it is their Constitutional duty to do whatever it takes to maintain power. Alter personally had nothing to fear from Clintonism and there is nobody more important than liberals are to themselves.
36 posted on 12/21/2005 6:37:02 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: GW and Twins Pawpaw
Only the most rabid of anarchist moonbats seriously thinks that George W. Bush can be taken out of office.

However, liberals seem happy with just smearing the president with as much trash and fecal matter as they can so that history will always look down on George W. Bush's administration.

Those history book had better show that the "anti(American)war movement" was partnered with international communists from the start.

How many asterisks are going to need to be in the books to explain that all of this trash set no precedent? And by that I don't mean "everybody does it" but rather than NOTHING UNCONSTITUTIONAL has happened. Unless we are going to appeal to activist courts that reinterpret and redefine the "living document" at (partisan agenda influenced) will.
37 posted on 12/21/2005 6:40:45 AM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: Kimberly GG; All
Some background:

The Legality of the NSA's Intercept Program--Well, there it goes as far as we're concerned. The left is still hanging onto it, tooth and nail--and talking impeachment. It's just plain sickening.
Power Line ^ | 12/20/05 | John Hinderaker
 
Victoria Toensing & James Bamford Discussing FISA on C-SPAN Now--This article explains fully how the president can legally wiretap US citizens without a warrant. It cites the law, something the left is loathe to actually do.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20621
 
“Bush Spying Story” Is Four Years Old--Somehow the geeky Wired News managed to scoop the vaunted New York Times by more than four years...
 
Why Bush Approved the Wiretaps (including FISA roadblock with Moussaoui)
--Has the DNC not been paying attention? Pelosi and Reid have ADMITTED publicly they were briefed. OMG
 Not to mention, they ALL voted on the Amendment to the FISA:
Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004: “Lone Wolf” Amendment to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
House Vote
This is getting too easy.
 
Echelon; Worldwide Conversations Being Received (Transcript of 60 Minutes)
 
Jimmy Carter Assumed Same Spy Power As Bush

38 posted on 12/21/2005 6:46:41 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Kimberly GG

I have to wonder why the President was so naive as to believe that he could dissuade Sulzberger from publishing the details of this surveillance program. If anything, he was inviting him to do so by the expedient of a face to face meeting (which Sulzberger probably demanded as the price for hearing the President out). How did we go from Dick Cheney's comments about Adam Clymer (which show that both he and the President had a pretty good idea of where the NYT stood editorially), to having guys like Scooter Libby literally "sleeping with the enemy"?


39 posted on 12/21/2005 6:48:56 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: Kimberly GG

I wonder if "Senator Depends" (Leaky Leahy )had anything to do with this?


40 posted on 12/21/2005 7:01:58 AM PST by Buffettfan
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To: Kimberly GG

bump


41 posted on 12/21/2005 8:01:42 AM PST by lowbridge (All that is needed for evil to triumph is for "RINOS" to do something)
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To: Just mythoughts

I think alter put the preperation-H in his ear and blew his brains out.


42 posted on 12/21/2005 8:07:57 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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