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Where’s the Outrage? (Newsweek Hit Piece - Mega Barf/Punch Hole In Wall Alert)
Newsweek ^ | 12/21/2005 | Arlene Getz

Posted on 12/21/2005 8:07:24 PM PST by TCats

Dec. 21, 2005 - Back in the 1980s, when I was living in Johannesburg and reporting on apartheid South Africa, a white neighbor proffered a tasteless confession. She was "quite relieved," she told me, that new media restrictions prohibited our reporting on government repression. No matter that Pretoria was detaining tens of thousands of people without real evidence of wrongdoing. No matter that many of them, including children, were being tortured—sometimes to death. No matter that government hit squads were killing political opponents. No matter that police were shooting into crowds of black civilians protesting against their disenfranchisement. "It's so nice," confided my neighbor, "not to open the papers and read all that bad news."

I thought about that neighbor this week, as reports dribbled out about President George W. Bush's sanctioning of warrantless eavesdropping on American conversations.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barf; bullzogby; doublestandard; hitpiece; lovedclintonswars; lyingliars; mediabias; mediabiasm; newsweak; newsweek; powergrhaib; saddamites; zogbyism
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This has got it all - Outrage at W, comparisons to Apartheid South Africa and on and on. A real anger builder.
1 posted on 12/21/2005 8:07:25 PM PST by TCats
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To: TCats

BTW, does anyone know exactly how many individuals were actually listened in on? I've heard as few as 28. Is this accurate?


2 posted on 12/21/2005 8:10:39 PM PST by TCats
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To: TCats

Where's the outrage? That's easy. It's in the Stalinist liberal idiot press.


3 posted on 12/21/2005 8:10:48 PM PST by Reactionary (The Stalinist Media is the Enemy)
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To: TCats

Not exactly, but I'd heard 30. 30 of our most upstanding citizens, I'm sure.


4 posted on 12/21/2005 8:14:01 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: TCats

That outrage you hear is the echo from Bin Laden's cave


5 posted on 12/21/2005 8:15:40 PM PST by hercuroc
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To: TCats

The number is not relevant. The fact that it was leaked, when the operation required the upmost of security is the travesty here. The President acted within his authority and is being crucified by the liberal media for it.


6 posted on 12/21/2005 8:15:50 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: TCats

I'm sure arlene must be happy that her homeland and neighboring countries are relieved of "white" oppression and are happily devolving into slaughter and oblivion under the "black" variety.


7 posted on 12/21/2005 8:15:58 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: TCats
If someone in the US is having a telephone conversation with a known Al Qaeda operative, they had BETTER be monitored.

The hypocrite Dim's would be all over Bush if he DIDN'T monitor these conversations.

As Rush says, "It's STILL not safe to vote Democrat".

8 posted on 12/21/2005 8:16:14 PM PST by keithtoo (Leftists/Democrats - Traitors, Haters and Vacillators)
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To: TCats

Arlene ranks right up there with Michael Isikoff. What a bleeding idiot.


9 posted on 12/21/2005 8:17:00 PM PST by proud_yank ("The government dole will rot your soul" --Stan Rogers, 'The Idiot')
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To: phoenix0468

Of course the leak and subsequent reporting on it is primary. I agree but simply want to know that part of it - The actual number of people involved - Since, to hear the MSM wailing, one would think it was millions.


10 posted on 12/21/2005 8:19:12 PM PST by TCats
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To: TCats

Arlene could write about next door Zimbabwe and the great dictator Mugabe, but that wouldn't fit into the agenda.


11 posted on 12/21/2005 8:19:39 PM PST by billhilly (Demo camo is yellow and white)
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To: TCats

I have read some real left wing liberal pieces in Newsweek before, but this one takes the grand prize.
I would suggest everyone write to complain to Newsweek... this is disgusting.


12 posted on 12/21/2005 8:21:28 PM PST by ruschpa
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To: ruschpa

I warned you! :-) It really got my dander up as well. What a bleeding heart, completely divorced from reality hit piece, eh.


13 posted on 12/21/2005 8:23:31 PM PST by TCats
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To: TCats

I have hear the number 500 reported by numerous sources including Fox News.


14 posted on 12/21/2005 8:23:37 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: TCats

Tell anyone you know who has it to cancel the script. IF you see a subscription form call and say I thought about subscribing but your magazine is run by Al Jezeera


15 posted on 12/21/2005 8:24:35 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: TCats

I'm beginning to think that Newsweak deserves a special award as Enemy of the Year.


16 posted on 12/21/2005 8:24:36 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: TCats
This is classic liberal crap. Just who is Arlene Getz anyway? I loved the Tutu story about him complaining about lack of free speech because someone criticized him for an anit-Bush rant. Poor baby.

I guess Getz is suggesting that soon we will be arresting children and torturing them and also firing into crowds of "disenfranchised" --one of the libs favorite words-- black people. This is truly a liberal classic.

17 posted on 12/21/2005 8:25:23 PM PST by sydbas
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To: TCats
Notice how the writer glossed over the fact that there were black policemen doing the shooting into crowds of blacks ~

And Fur Shur, he failed to mention they were of different major tribes.

Ultimately those people are going to kill each other off anyway.

18 posted on 12/21/2005 8:35:37 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: TCats

Once again... Newsweek... reminds me I need to buy more Scotts toilette paper.


19 posted on 12/21/2005 8:35:55 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: sydbas
Just who is Arlene Getz anyway?

Reminds me of Leo Getz, from the Lether Weapon movies.

20 posted on 12/21/2005 8:43:09 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: TCats

What's a Newsweek?


21 posted on 12/21/2005 8:46:19 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: TCats

There is an unintended irony in this hit piece. The MSM clamored for years against South Africa. Once they achieved their "victory" over Apartheid they ignored the socialist hell that South Africa has become (which they were responsible for in no small way).


22 posted on 12/21/2005 8:46:55 PM PST by Nateman (Socialism first, cancer second.)
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To: TCats
Call me a paranoid but I believe these waves of media and political negativism are coordinated. These events happened repeatedly leading up to the 2004 election. Remember that Mary Mapes was in contact with Kerry's campaign headquarters as she rushed the fabricated Bush guard story on to the air. Every major paper ran a version of the document story before it was exposed as a fraud. Many never retracted it. In this latest case you have a New York Times reporter, who is getting ready to sell a book on the subject, drop a manufactured news bomb the day after the successful Iraqi elections. Immediately the rest of the media picks up the chant along with the left wing of Congress. I have never heard such a racket over what will turn out to be a non-story. But it distracts the masses from the administration's achievements. The dilemma is that the watchdogs are the ones rooting through the chicken house. I'd like to see the e-mails that travel back and forth in just one hour between the New York Times, Newsweek and congressional offices.
23 posted on 12/21/2005 8:50:47 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Just because they are conspiring with each other doesn't mean you are not paranoid! :-)

You hit it right on the head IMO. That means we're probably both paranoid but right. (AKA as Skeptics or Cynics)

24 posted on 12/21/2005 8:56:51 PM PST by TCats
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To: Brad from Tennessee

You're not being paranoid. You're being realistic.


25 posted on 12/21/2005 8:59:03 PM PST by digger48
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To: Cementjungle

Hey! Arlene is looking for an Intern. I think should could use some pointers.

INTERNSHIP, NEWSWEEK.COM. Newsweek.com is seeking a reporter/researcher for a paid editorial internship from Jan. 1 through June 1. Open to graduates as well as those still completing their degrees, the internship involves writing stories for the newsmagazine's daily Web site and assisting others with their research and reporting. In the job, you would also edit stories, write captions and produce a weekly letters column. Strong technical skills are not a requirement for this position, but applicants must have a proven ability to write (at least five substantial clips) and must be comfortable with breaking-news assignments, telephone reporting and Internet research. Editorial management experience at a campus newspaper or magazine is a plus. Work week runs Tuesday through Saturday. To apply, please email Arlene.Getz@Newsweek.com or send a resume to: Arlene Getz, Newsweek.com, 251 W. 57th St., New York, NY 10024. (Updated Nov. 15)


26 posted on 12/21/2005 9:00:05 PM PST by DenverCossack
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To: TCats
I actually think this sounds juvenile and ridicules.

It reads like a High School essay.
27 posted on 12/21/2005 9:03:58 PM PST by roses of sharon ("I would rather men ask why I have no statue, than why I have one". ) (Cato the Elder)
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To: roses of sharon

I didn't say it was good prose. It will play well in Lib Land though - They aren't too critical of anything anti-Admin/American. :-)


28 posted on 12/21/2005 9:06:30 PM PST by TCats
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To: TCats
Liberal Media still in search of a news story that will help destroy the Bush Administration.

Lewinski, was OK.

Foster in Fort Marcy was OK.

Bombing a pill factory in Sudan was OK.

Kosovo was OK.

Missle Tech to Chinese was OK.

29 posted on 12/21/2005 9:12:02 PM PST by agincourt1415 (Democrats still lose)
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To: TCats

I am so looking forward to the day when these "journalists" are completely irrelevant.


30 posted on 12/21/2005 9:18:29 PM PST by Just Lori (End the leftist occupation of America!)
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To: sydbas
Just who is Arlene Getz anyway?

Doing a google search on her name is an eye opener. She's pretty much a liberal activist masquerading as a journalist. Another Mary Mapes, if you will.

Her choice of sources for her reports is somewhat revealing:

NEWSWEEK's Arlene Getz spoke to Asia expert Radha Kumar, a senior fellow in peace and conflict studies at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York, about the latest developments in the region.

NEWSWEEK’s Arlene Getz spoke to Warren Bass, a senior fellow specializing in US foreign policy and Middle East studies at the Council on Foreign Relations

NEWSWEEK’s Arlene Getz spoke to Rachel Bronson, director of Middle East Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations

31 posted on 12/21/2005 9:19:01 PM PST by lowbridge (All that is needed for evil to triumph is for "RINOS" to do something)
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To: TCats

Hey, Newsweek. Aren't your circulation numbers low enough?


32 posted on 12/21/2005 9:19:44 PM PST by lowbridge (All that is needed for evil to triumph is for "RINOS" to do something)
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To: TCats

Saying that Bush is tapping "American" conversations is something that I keep hearing from the MSM, but it is entirely misleading.

First of all these conversations are NOT being intercepted on American soil. They are being tapped by varios stations OUTSIDE of the United States, hence why it falls under "Gathering of Foreign Intellegence" as outlined in the executive power to employ electronic wiretaps without a warrant.

Secondly, just because a conversation is initiated from or received within the US, that does NOT mean that there is an honest, law-abiding AMERICAN citizen on either end of the phone.

Thirdly, The wiretaps being employed were initiated for a reason. The government believes the people being tapped are enemies of this country, not John Q. Public having an afternoon chat with Mom.

Honestly, if you have monitored 20 calls initiated from somewhere within Syria to various parts of the world, does it make sence to disconnect on the 21st because it happens to be to a number in Newark, NJ?

It just bothers me that the image being portrayed is not reality. I know, I know, and I do know better, but it never ceases to amaze or disgust me.


33 posted on 12/21/2005 9:24:36 PM PST by BattleBoar
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To: DenverCossack

Thanks for the e-mail address. I sent the following a moment ago:

Savannah TN 12-21

Dear Ms. Getz:

The farther Newsweek descends in readership,
advertising and editorial quality, the weirder the
writers are that show up in its fading offices.

I don't want to hurt your feelings but the piece
comparing Botha's South Africa with Bush's America
came off like something written after a night spent
drinking hard liquor and sucking on a crack pipe.

I generally don't agree with anything in Newsweek.
Jonathan Alter has turned into an hysterical old
woman. Or, more rightly, a male Helen Thomas. Yet it
saddens me to see this once great institution on its
last legs. But you are proving it doesn't have to go
out in a whimper. It can go out with a shrieking,
twisted, delusional scream.

Brad (last name)

___________________________


34 posted on 12/21/2005 9:31:31 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: BattleBoar
If I were the President, I would go before a special session of Congress and say this:

Tonight I am here to tell you point blank.

If you call overseas to other countries, we will scan your calls for keys words. If you call certain counties we'll listen to that call and record it.

Its for the protection of the nation, END OF STORY.

If you want us to stop PASS A LAW and stop it.

If you Pass the Law to stop it, and another Airplane hits or another Terrorist act happens on US soil, its on your HEADs.

35 posted on 12/21/2005 9:33:11 PM PST by agincourt1415 (Democrats still lose)
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To: lowbridge
Doing a google search on her name is an eye opener.

Wow thanks for doing that, really. That's more work than I would have done on her but I really appreciate the info.

36 posted on 12/21/2005 9:40:24 PM PST by sydbas
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To: Brad from Tennessee; All

I sent the following to Newsweek on their site;

Just a note to tell you that, after readng the article drawing the comparison between NSA call monitoring and Apartheid South Africa, authored by Arlene Getz, I have solemnly committed myself to never, ever buying or reading your 'News' offerings again. And, contrary to your assumption that I am some Neanderthal Neocon, I am not. I AM a discerning reader and this story was just so much tripe. For shame.

I know it won't make a difference but I feel better for having done it.


37 posted on 12/21/2005 9:42:05 PM PST by TCats
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To: TCats
BTW, does anyone know exactly how many individuals were actually listened in on? I've heard as few as 28. Is this accurate?

That was just one call on a party line. We are doing such a good job of shutting off the money the A-rabs are having to economize. :-)

38 posted on 12/21/2005 9:48:03 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

When Newsweek finally dies do you think they will call it "Transition"?


39 posted on 12/21/2005 9:48:19 PM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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To: TCats

As people wander into their dentist's offices over the next few months and perhaps carelessly grab this issue of Newsweak off the rack, they will likely glance past this story and skip to the celebrity gossip and entertainment news. Then their names will be called by the dental assistants and the magazines will go back on the rack and be completely forgotten.

I wouldn't worry abouut anything Newsweak prints. Zero impact.

Regards,
LH


40 posted on 12/21/2005 9:49:31 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Call me a paranoid but.....

Remember, being paranoid doesn't mean you are wrong and in this case you are right.

.... I believe these waves of media and political negativism are coordinated.

41 posted on 12/21/2005 9:57:54 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: TCats


Where's the outrage? Simple: no one reads Newsweak.


42 posted on 12/21/2005 9:58:48 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: TCats

Newsweek jumped the shark so long ago, its unmeasurable.


43 posted on 12/21/2005 10:14:45 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: TCats
Tutu recalled teaching in Jacksonville, Fla., when Bush won re-election in 2004. "I was shocked," he said, "because I had naively believed all these many years that Americans genuinely believed in freedom of speech. [But I] discovered there that when you made an utterance that was remotely contrary to what the White House was saying, then they attacked you.

That's pretty much the definition of free debate, you brain dead idiot.

44 posted on 12/21/2005 11:17:07 PM PST by jordan8
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To: TCats

Maybe its because we are not outraged... spy on the terrorists...seek them out and destroy them...by any means necessary.


45 posted on 12/21/2005 11:20:23 PM PST by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: TCats

Be patient, Newsweek is losing circulation at an alarming rate. Ad revenue is way down. At this rate this third rate magazine will be out of business and will take its crew down with it.


46 posted on 12/22/2005 4:24:01 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Joe Boucher
I've met quite a few of the Newsweek staff and they are all typical angry childish leftists. They became UNHINGED when Bush crushed Kerry in Nov. 2004. They were all so sure that their political efforts would pay off and guarantee a Kerry victory. You should have seen them afterwards, they looked like they had been bombed by the Nazis.

If you haven't read Alter's hit piece this week you've gotta check it out - he basically accuses Bush of crimes so vicious against the American people that he essentially is pushing for execution, I think. At first it made my blood boil, but realizing the childishness and vacuity of his arguments made me smile with delight as I foresaw Newsweak's reputation in it's dying throes. They have gone from scurrilous to scandoulous - and they don't care. It is the most poorly managed "news" agency going, I expect them to go insolvent within the next year.

47 posted on 12/22/2005 8:18:00 AM PST by mallardx
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To: TCats

Newsweak is nothing but leftwing garbage! Filthy dirty garbage!


48 posted on 12/22/2005 8:20:17 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: mallardx

I recall that either Howard Kurtz and/or Howard Fineman at Newsweak high fived people in the office when that first bunko exit poll (60% women, all inner city respondants) showing that Kerry would win. I remember preparing myself for a Kerry presidency when the first reports from places like NRO said those polls were poorly done and inacccurate; ergo Bush went on to win a crushing victory.


49 posted on 12/22/2005 8:27:13 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: TCats
comparisons to Apartheid South Africa

More Apartheid atrocities, just like the Israelis are committing with their "genocidal Wall".

50 posted on 12/22/2005 9:28:59 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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