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TIMES' 4Q PROFIT OFF (attributes costs of 500 job cuts)
NY POST ^ | December 22, 2005 | Bloomberg

Posted on 12/22/2005 4:43:56 AM PST by Liz

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Because it can't predict next year's ad market, the company won't provide financial forecasts.

The question is why advertisers don't want their ads in the NYT. Does Jayson Blair ring a bell?

1 posted on 12/22/2005 4:43:58 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

Lets give them a pity party.

Couldnt happen to a nicer bunch of commies.


2 posted on 12/22/2005 4:47:47 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Liz

The NY Slimes is a front organization of DNC, ANSWER, and other subversive groups. Okay.....I am exagerrating slightly here but you get the general idea.


3 posted on 12/22/2005 4:48:00 AM PST by indcons (FRepmail indcons to join the MilHist ping list)
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To: indcons
...fourth-quarter profit will fall to around 45 cents a share because of costs to cut jobs.

We can assume that the cost of cutting jobs is generous severance packages. Something the media decries when corporate America offers these.

4 posted on 12/22/2005 4:52:25 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: Liz
Because it can't predict next year's ad market, the company won't provide financial forecasts.

And these folks publish a business section?!

5 posted on 12/22/2005 4:53:44 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Liz
Because it can't predict next year's ad market, the company won't provide financial forecasts.

Because management doesn't have a good grasp on reality, the company can't provide financial, or any other, forecasts much less recognize truth.

There, that's better.

6 posted on 12/22/2005 5:02:53 AM PST by CPOSharky (Taxation WITH representation kinda sucks too.)
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To: Liz

Where is the NYT's plan to regain market share? They need to withdraw from the war on Bush and redeploy their assets in more profitable endeavors. The length of this financial slide puts them in a quagmire. Where's their intelligence on future ad revenue? Have they been lying about their future prospects? We all know their credibility is in the tank - how will they turn their poll numbers around? Inquiring people want to know.


7 posted on 12/22/2005 5:16:26 AM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: sgtbono2002

"They need a better advertising environment," said Edward Atorino, managing director at New York-based research company Benchmark Co.

Yeah, that's it, better ads. That'll fix everything. What a maroon.

The NYT is going the way of Hollywood, down the slow flush. It's gratifying to know that there are far more intelligent folks out there than the Left would have us believe.


8 posted on 12/22/2005 5:17:17 AM PST by SueRae
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To: mewzilla
And these folks publish a business section?!

They also publish a science and technology section, but clearly don't have a clue what they're writing about. Knowledge of the subject at hand is not a prerequisite for "journalism."

9 posted on 12/22/2005 5:24:38 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: SueRae
Hit the RATs where they hurt--in the wallet! Keep boycotting the Slimes and tell you relatives and contats to do the same. Boycott advertisers in the Slimes. The Slimes engages in seditious, anti-American acts.

The five year graph of the Slimes below shows the stock price was flat from 2001 to 2004, then started tanking in 2004. Since mid-2002, the Slimes has lost nearly half its value.


10 posted on 12/22/2005 5:25:57 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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11 posted on 12/22/2005 5:47:00 AM PST by oxcart
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To: Liz
The declining profit outlook underscores the difficulty The Times is having as advertisers shift to the Internet.

Which is due to readership dropping like a rock everywhere outside of the DNC/MSM.

12 posted on 12/22/2005 5:48:50 AM PST by EricT. (My pastor mentioned Samuel Taylor Coleridge and I thought of Iron Maiden.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Man! They started sinking like a lead balloon around June, 2004.

Their opinion of themselves is so high that they can't even consider that they may be doing something wrong.


13 posted on 12/22/2005 5:54:21 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: Liz; All
Liz, I saw you were pinged to this yesterday, but for other FReepers, here is the thread from yesterday.

The New York Times Co. Provides Fourth-Quarter Earnings Guidance (EARLY CHRISTMAS PRESENT!!)

Check the hilarious chart posted by Grampa Dave #15 here

14 posted on 12/22/2005 5:58:55 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (I never got a job from a person on a government program.)
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To: Liz
Because it can't predict next year's ad market, the company won't provide financial forecasts.

So the NYT can predict with smug confidence the outcome of the war in Iraq, with its myriad of variables, but it can't predict its own ad revenue for the coming year?

15 posted on 12/22/2005 5:58:56 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Liz

500 down, 12000 to go...


16 posted on 12/22/2005 6:03:24 AM PST by rock_lobsta
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To: Liz

If you cannot believe their front page stories, any question the books might be cooked too?


17 posted on 12/22/2005 6:37:46 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Erik Latranyi
We can assume that the cost of cutting jobs is generous severance packages. Something the media decries when corporate America offers these.

I didn't start out intending to write for them, but the NYT bought about.com while I was a guide for one of their sites. Not only did I not get any type of severance package when -- the day before my birthday! -- they advised me that (despite more than doubling traffic over the previous year's/guide's page views, adding more content than was required by my contract, etc. etc. etc.) they were "ending our relationship" because I hadn't sufficiently converted my site to comply with their "writing for the Web" philosophy. They now only pay me about a fifth of what that same content was earning me while I was guide for the site. (The content stays there until they hire a new guide, who will then work for free during the time it takes to "build" the site, and who will then only earn what I was earning if he or she increases the page view traffic over what mine had been. Of course, that's assuming their contract remains as "generous" as it was while I worked there.)

FYI: I moved MY copyrighted content from that NYT-owned pop-up ads site to my own (no pop-up ads) domain at Chronic-Illness.org.
18 posted on 12/22/2005 7:36:34 AM PST by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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To: Preachin'
Their opinion of themselves is so high that they can't even consider that they may be doing something wrong.

Exactly, and it is that way with all RATs. Take Hollyweird, for example. They are moaning and groaning about the decline in box office sales, yet Disney has anti-American scum like Alec Baldwin play an American hero Jimmy Doolittle, and a current film ( "Ride Him Bearback" Mountain) is about two gay guys that Hollyweird calls a "heartwarming tearjerker".

And they are "bewildered" why a large segment of America is boycotting them and ignoring them. They are so self-centered and ignorant it is quite funny when you think about it.

19 posted on 12/22/2005 7:38:59 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Fawnn

I salute you for doing that on your own. We need to support people like you and ignore/boycott scum like the Slimes.


20 posted on 12/22/2005 7:41:03 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Thank you!


21 posted on 12/22/2005 7:42:38 AM PST by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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To: Liz

I note the article doesn't mention that the Times' earnings per share dropped about 50% from this same period last year.


22 posted on 12/22/2005 7:46:58 AM PST by joebuck
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To: Liz
Why not just print the truth?
23 posted on 12/22/2005 7:48:32 AM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: ChadGore

Advertising for elections will help the Times earn more next year. Soon they will be telling us all about the big turn around. It will be good for one year.


24 posted on 12/22/2005 7:51:33 AM PST by stocksthatgoup ("It's inexcusable to tell us to 'connect the dots' and not give us the tools to do so." G W Bush)
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To: Liz

Nice little surprise Christmas present.


25 posted on 12/22/2005 7:56:56 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Liz

So the sinking ship is blaming the water?


26 posted on 12/22/2005 7:59:12 AM PST by MortMan (There is no substitute for victory.)
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To: ChadGore

{{{{Chuckle}}}}}.....that's too much to ask of a lefty.


27 posted on 12/22/2005 10:00:05 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Arrowhead1952; Grampa Dave

Thanks for the links-----Grampa Dave has the best charts on this story.


28 posted on 12/22/2005 10:01:14 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz

hmmm , if the times keeps the employees they lose money, if the fire them, they lose money.
Why won't the TIMES admit the reason for their woes is that no one is buying their worthless liberal fishwrap?


29 posted on 12/22/2005 11:12:26 AM PST by fhlh (Polls are for strippers and liberal spinsters.)
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To: fhlh; Raycpa

The NYT's worst nightmare----having their books audited. tremble}}}}}enronenronenronenron{{{{{{tremble


30 posted on 12/22/2005 11:25:47 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: EricT.

Only thing MSM is good at.

31 posted on 12/22/2005 11:31:03 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz; Grampa Dave

That vulture waiting for the NYT to die is applicable to almost every major paper today.


32 posted on 12/22/2005 11:35:21 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (I never got a job from a person on a government program.)
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To: Arrowhead1952; Liz; ForGod'sSake

"That vulture waiting for the NYT to die is applicable to almost every major paper today."

I have been posting the charts of the NYT, WPO and TRB from most of the year and some starting right after the 2000 election.

All three of these rags look like turkeys with bird flu.

I "borrowed" the Vulture chart from For God's Sake. It is an instant hit here and away from Free Republic.


33 posted on 12/22/2005 2:34:44 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Link to Great TV ad re rat traitors and their words re Iraq: http://www.gop.com/Media/120905.wmv)
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To: Grampa Dave; devolve
That vulture waiting for the NYT to die is applicable to almost every major paper today.

I don't even feel like crying (snicker).

Maybe we oughta get devolve to post a funeral dirge.....to get us in the proper mood.

34 posted on 12/22/2005 2:47:35 PM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz

I have been thinking about Doug from Upland doing one of his midi ditties to go with our charts.


35 posted on 12/22/2005 3:55:25 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Link to Great TV ad re rat traitors and their words re Iraq: http://www.gop.com/Media/120905.wmv)
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To: Raycpa; Liz

"If you cannot believe their front page stories, any question the books might be cooked too?"

Bingo. If these perverts will lie on their front pages, oped pages and editorial pages, they will lie about their paid circulation numbers in a heart beat.

Their book cooking probably makes Enron look like kids in kindergarden.


36 posted on 12/22/2005 3:59:33 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Link to Great TV ad re rat traitors and their words re Iraq: http://www.gop.com/Media/120905.wmv)
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To: Liz; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; Interesting Times; Alamo-Girl; ...

  must be sumthin' rattlin' round the ol' grooveyard..... 


         



37 posted on 12/22/2005 4:38:31 PM PST by devolve (<-- (--in a manner reminiscent of Senator Gasbag Kohn--)
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To: Liz

They should just merge with the DNC and cut the costs of duplicating the same garbage.


38 posted on 12/22/2005 4:45:38 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Grampa Dave

Thanks. I wish the libs in Austin TX would realize the MSM is basically DEAD.


39 posted on 12/22/2005 4:58:51 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (I never got a job from a person on a government program.)
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To: devolve

O-o-o-o-o.....scary.


40 posted on 12/22/2005 5:07:19 PM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Grampa Dave

Doug's got quite a catalogue of tunes, to be sure.


41 posted on 12/22/2005 5:08:35 PM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Arrowhead1952

One of our sons attended a management seminar in Austin this summer. He said it was like visit San Francisco during a hot week with all of the hostile libs and deviants in Austin.


42 posted on 12/22/2005 5:24:54 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Link to Great TV ad re rat traitors and their words re Iraq: http://www.gop.com/Media/120905.wmv)
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To: Grampa Dave

If these perverts will lie on their front pages, oped pages and editorial pages, they will lie about their paid circulation numbers in a heart beat.

Didn't the NYT get nailed within the past year for falsely inflating their circulation numbers, or am I thinking of some other large MSM newspaper(s)?

43 posted on 12/22/2005 5:38:28 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Paladin2
They need to withdraw from the war on Bush

Yes, we demand to know their exit strategy and timetable!

44 posted on 12/22/2005 5:48:12 PM PST by Starboard
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To: Proud2BeRight
They should just merge with the DNC and cut the costs of duplicating the same garbage.

Yes, achieving economies of scale would be a good strategy. NYT is nothing more than an echo chamber for the DNC.

45 posted on 12/22/2005 5:50:49 PM PST by Starboard
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To: Zon
Didn't the NYT get nailed within the past year for falsely inflating their circulation numbers, or am I thinking of some other large MSM newspaper(s)

Don't mean to butt in but the only one I've heard about recently was the Minneapolis (Red)Star Tribune, although there have been other rumblings. It was settled for $55,000 after an "audit" determined their circulation numbers were essentially accurate....FWIW.

46 posted on 12/22/2005 7:25:28 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Thanks.


47 posted on 12/22/2005 7:36:05 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Liz

I wonder how much the editorial board will pay itself.


48 posted on 12/22/2005 7:37:26 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Liz

The Stone Age Press is the only business that believes it can insult 60% of their customers. Here is proof you cant.

Pray for W and Our Victorious Troops


49 posted on 12/22/2005 7:39:15 PM PST by bray (Merry Christmas Iraq)
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To: Zon

Basically every major fishwrap has been nailed for Enroning their ciculation and paid subscriber numbers, this past year.


50 posted on 12/22/2005 8:34:57 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Link to Great TV ad re rat traitors and their words re Iraq: http://www.gop.com/Media/120905.wmv)
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