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Round up the obvious suspects (NSA leak)
The American Thinker ^ | 12 22 05 | Clarice Feldman

Posted on 12/22/2005 7:20:13 AM PST by Abathar

Liberal fantasies of Karl Rove being frog-marched in handcuffs for leaking classified information may turn into a nightmare of prominent liberals being prosecuted for damaging the fight against al Qaeda via leaks of classified data. There are no names on the public record yet, but somebody leaked the classified information about NSA surveillance to James Risen of the New York Times, and a year later his paper published the story.

The pieces falling in place are far from conclusive, but they are mighty suggestive.

President Bush believes that the national interest has been harmed. In all probability, gears are turning right now for a criminal investigation leading to a possible a possible felony prosecution. Others are noting, as AT did last Sunday, that at the demand of the left itself, precedents have been set that could ensnare not “evil Republicans,” but “virtuous liberals” who think of themselves as whistleblowers. As the old saying goes, “Be careful what you wish for.”

Jack Kelly contends something valuable may yet come out of the Plame Investigation:

It is despicable, but not illegal, for the news media to publish vital national secrets leaked to them. But the leakers have committed a felony.

Those who have demanded severe punishment for whoever it was who told reporters Valerie Plame worked at the CIA have been remarkably forgiving about who leaked the existence of the NSA intercept program, which—like the earlier leak of secret CIA prisons for al Qaida bigwigs and unlike the Plame kerfuffle—has done serious harm to our national security.

But fortunately, by clapping New York Times reporter Judith Miller in irons until she talked, overzealous special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has set a valuable precedent.

Attorney General Gonzalez should subpoena Mr. Risen and Mr. Lichtblau, and have them cited for contempt of court if they do not disclose their source or sources. Maybe they could share Judy Miller’s old cell.

Should the Attorney General take up Kelly’s suggestion, A. J. Strata has a starting point suggestion about the leakers. He notes this graph from the NYT:

“According to those officials and others, reservations about aspects of the program have also been expressed by Senator John D. Rockefeller IV, the West Virginia Democrat who is the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and a judge presiding over a secret court that oversees intelligence matters. Some of the questions about the agency’s new powers led the administration to temporarily suspend the operation last year and impose more restrictions, the officials said.”

It does seem to suggest that Senator Rockefeller and ” a judge presiding over a secret court that oversees intelligence matters” were sources for this leak, Strata hints. In fact, if Strata is right, Gonzales may already know that, for Strata adds that press reports to the contrary notwithstanding, Judge Robertson, an activist liberal judge, probably didn’t “resign,” but rather was suspended for that very reason.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jamesrisen; leak; nsa; nsaleak; nyt; patriotleak; robertson; rockefeller; spying
Interesting take on things, comments?
1 posted on 12/22/2005 7:20:15 AM PST by Abathar
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To: Abathar

I'd also like an investigation into how many Democrats have accepted Oil For Food bribes from Saddam.


2 posted on 12/22/2005 7:21:55 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Abathar

I have three suspects: Clarke, Clarke, and CLARKE!


3 posted on 12/22/2005 7:22:49 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Abathar

What do you think are the odds? I will stake out the zero.


4 posted on 12/22/2005 7:24:14 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: Abathar

Sounds right. I would love to see a Federal Judge frogmarched off to prison.


5 posted on 12/22/2005 7:24:52 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: Yo-Yo

Is it not yet obvious, that the once vaunted NY Times, is now on par with the Weekly Workers World.


6 posted on 12/22/2005 7:25:00 AM PST by MCCRon58 (Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who do neither, complain!)
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To: Yo-Yo

If they could catch Rockefeller at this it would be the best Christmas present ever, and I am willing to wait until July if that is what it takes.


7 posted on 12/22/2005 7:25:12 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: Abathar

Rockefeller said he could discuss his concerns with no one because of the classified nature of the program. The NYT article said that Rockefeller had concerns about it. How would the Times know this if Rockefellers letter wasn't released until days after their article? Rockefeller sounds like the leak to me....


8 posted on 12/22/2005 7:25:13 AM PST by oneofmany (Salus populi suprema lex)
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To: Yo-Yo

Senator Rockafeller


9 posted on 12/22/2005 7:25:15 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Fenris6

It's like the Mafia demanding that the police be honest.


10 posted on 12/22/2005 7:25:41 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: Yo-Yo

Fry him.


11 posted on 12/22/2005 7:28:14 AM PST by brivette
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To: Fenris6
"I'd also like an investigation into how many Democrats have accepted Oil For Food bribes from Saddam."

In a departure of their policy of aiding any enemy of the United States, Democrat politicians seem to have missed the Saddam money pot. Some of their funders (Rich, et al) seem to have taken Saddam's blood money, so the Dem's funding pool is tainted with the blood of innocent Iraqis. But they seem not to have taken the money directly. A little laundering was first required.

12 posted on 12/22/2005 7:28:49 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Surrender! - Vote Democrat.)
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To: oneofmany

"...couldn't discuss his concerns with anyone..." Sorry, sloppy syntax


13 posted on 12/22/2005 7:31:59 AM PST by oneofmany (Salus populi suprema lex)
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To: oneofmany
I suspect him as well, he should be censured, removed and tried for treason. Sadly, they only investigate & prosecute Republicans.
14 posted on 12/22/2005 7:33:00 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (New Jersey gets the corrupt government it deserves!)
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To: Yo-Yo

In the end, you'll find it was Rockefeller. Wouldn't be surprised if due to family problems he's forced to resign.


15 posted on 12/22/2005 7:33:04 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: Abathar

Interesting, the media admitted that the judge didn't say why but they assumed he was resigning in protest.


16 posted on 12/22/2005 7:35:44 AM PST by tiki
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To: Fenris6

Two that would come to mind... Dodd & Biden.


17 posted on 12/22/2005 7:36:06 AM PST by johnny7 (“Check out the big brain on Brett!”)
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To: Abathar
“Judge Robertson, an activist liberal judge, probably didn’t “resign,” but rather was suspended for that very reason.”

Now THAT would be juicy...

18 posted on 12/22/2005 7:37:58 AM PST by johnny7 (“Check out the big brain on Brett!”)
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To: Abathar
The NYT put the country at risk by publishing this story. That is treason. The individuals who leaked the information also committed treason. Treason is a difficult charge on which to convict. However, proof of leaking classified information should automatically result in the removal of one's security clearance. Imagine Senator Rockefeller without security clearance.
19 posted on 12/22/2005 7:38:22 AM PST by LOC1
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To: Howlin

ping


21 posted on 12/22/2005 7:51:30 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: Abathar

If Rockefeller didn't leak it, he pretty certainly knows who did. He's at the epicenter of the cabal of rogue CIA agents, the DNC, and the MSM.

How about gearing up another prosecutor, only this time make it a real prosecutor instead of that preening useful idiot, Fitzgerald.

Meantime, we know exactly where to start. "Attorney General Gonzalez should subpoena Mr. Risen and Mr. Lichtblau, and have them cited for contempt of court if they do not disclose their source or sources. Maybe they could share Judy Miller’s old cell."


22 posted on 12/22/2005 7:55:43 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: LOC1
Treason is a difficult charge on which to convict.

Yes, because the specifications are, for lack of a better word, very specific. Their are other charges with plenty of jail time for the leaks in this case. Rockefeller would probably not go to trial based on Leahy's treatment. Leahy's leaks got people killed and he simply dropped off the committee. I can't remember if he even got censured.

23 posted on 12/22/2005 7:58:47 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Cicero
My guess is judging from the anger expressed by President Bush and V.P. Chaney this is actively being pursued by the J.D..
Its also my belief is that the story was leaked before the election to directly hurt the President's reelection chances, and for whatever reason the NYT sat on it and didn't release it. I think they didn't do it because they knew if Kerry lost then the backlash would be too great and they would be seen as directly using classified material to affect an election. Now this moron has a book coming out, and this is just the thing to bump his sales up, so it gets released. As far as I am concerned he should be signing his books from a cell if he doesn't release the names of who leaked this to him.
24 posted on 12/22/2005 8:09:36 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: Clioman

Please don't even say this. Its too much like a DU comment. We want to protect these people whether they like it or not.


25 posted on 12/22/2005 8:18:32 AM PST by sgtyork (If Osamma calls someone in the US, should the NSA hang up?)
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To: Clioman

"God forbid that the islamist lunatics should come to New York City again...but if they simply MUST set off a nuke somewhere, please, please, please have them detonate it at the front door of the NY Times building..."




No, and _______ no.

Besides being a suggestion so silly that it would do justice to only Howard Dean or some DU poster, the Slime is and has been doing far more damage to themselves than anything merely explosive OR radioactive.

Seen anything from them on their own circulation or profit figures lately?

There's a rapidly increasing probability that, if they should decide to return to presenting fact instead of their political agenda, they wouldn't have enough circulation OR credibility left that anyone would notice or take them seriously.


26 posted on 12/22/2005 8:38:45 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet
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To: Abathar
It does seem to suggest that Senator Rockefeller and ” a judge presiding over a secret court that oversees intelligence matters” were sources for this leak, Strata hints. In fact, if Strata is right, Gonzales may already know that, for Strata adds that press reports to the contrary notwithstanding, Judge Robertson, an activist liberal judge, probably didn’t “resign,” but rather was suspended for that very reason.

..Judge Robertson...TRAITOR

27 posted on 12/22/2005 8:43:30 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: Clioman

Think with a little more depth, Clioman. I have a dear son who lives in Manhattan.


28 posted on 12/22/2005 8:51:24 AM PST by rightazrain (Link me to some proof so I can put my rumor to rest.)
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To: Clioman

Moderators please moderate this knucklhead!!!!


29 posted on 12/22/2005 9:09:30 AM PST by ping jockey (radical islam; the great evil of all times.)
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To: rightazrain

To Rightazrain, et al.

Of course, you are all right. My anger at what the NYT's leakers are doing to American security interests got the best of me for a moment, or at least long enough to hit the send key before thinking it through. My apologies.


30 posted on 12/22/2005 9:25:03 AM PST by Clioman
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To: Abathar
It does seem to suggest that Senator Rockefeller and ” a judge presiding over a secret court that oversees intelligence matters” were sources for this leak, Strata hints. In fact, if Strata is right, Gonzales may already know that, for Strata adds that press reports to the contrary notwithstanding, Judge Robertson, an activist liberal judge, probably didn’t “resign,” but rather was suspended for that very reason.

If this is true I hope the administration gets it out before the Judge is granted sainthood. Right now he is being praised for his 'principles'.

31 posted on 12/22/2005 9:33:55 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Clioman

Apology accepted!


32 posted on 12/22/2005 9:51:45 AM PST by rightazrain (Link me to some proof so I can put my rumor to rest.)
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To: Abathar

bttt


33 posted on 12/22/2005 10:44:17 AM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: Abathar
prominent liberals being prosecuted for damaging the fight against al Qaeda via leaks of classified data.

The RATS would not be prosecuted but allowed to resign. Prosecution would hurt the war effort and Bush is smart enough to know that.

34 posted on 12/22/2005 11:32:52 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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