Posted on 12/22/2005 12:24:27 PM PST by Bob Haran
Mexico thinks it has a right to criticize the U.S. plan to build a 700 mile wall on our southern border to keep out people entering our country illegally.
Mexican Foreign Secretary Lois Derbez says that Mexico has asked the governments of Central American nations along with Columbia and the Dominican Republic, "To join in the fight and to denounce the measure passed by the U.S. House of Representatives to build a wall," on our side of the border with Mexico.
I find it to be the height of arrogance for the foreign ministry of any nation to criticize what we do to secure our own borders. Frankly, it's none of their business. If we want to build a fence, a wall or a moat for that matter on our side of the border, that's our business, we don't need Mexico's or any other nations permission, the United States, is a sovereign nation.
As an American citizen, let me say this as diplomatically as I possibly can.
Your Excellency, The Foreign Secretary of Mexico, Lois Derbez, "Go to hell."
Bob Haran, Phoenix, AZ www.Bob-Haran.info
Thank you for the explanation. I wasn't sure if it was approved for just a certain section. So there is the expectation that the wall will be completed eventually across the entire boarder?
What does the wall look like? Concrete? Fence? Fence/moat/razor wire/dogs/electricity combo/landmine?
Any idea?
Again, I am not in favor of compensating the countries that send illegals. But we have been giving them these freebies, as a nation for three decades. We have been giving them free citizenship. We have been giving them taxpayer-funded educations, medical assistance, and welfare. I don't blame them for getting riled.
What you're saying in the last paragraph is in no way analogous to a property easement. It's one thing to say that if someone's been traversing my property for a certain length of time, he gets some kind of right-of-way. It's something completely different to say that if he's been stealing from my orchard for a certain length of time, he has the right to continue doing so.
I recommend that Mexico boycott the US. They shouldn't send any illegals here until we tear down the entire wall.
"Mexico thinks it has a right to criticize the U.S. plan to build a 700 mile wall on our southern border to keep out people entering our country illegally."
They've got a right to criticize it. They just don't have the ability to do a damn thing about it.
As I understand it, Mexico is none too keen about folks crossing their southern border. They do not care why you crossed, you are sent back, even if you are a political refugee.
I'd hold off on expectations for the entire border.
The expense of the fence isn't that great ($5-6 billion, IIRC) but there are a whole lot of politics involved in this and some of it involves factions inside the Republican party as well as between the Democrats and the Republicans. Next years' bi-election could have a major impact on further funding or even continuation of existing funding if it is a close election or if (dare I speak it) the House changes hands.
As for the design of the fence, the graphics I have seen start with two parallel anti-vehicle/personnel ditches on opposite sides of two very tall, razor wire-topped, chain link fences. There would be movement sensors buried between the two fences and raked dirt patrol roads. (Similar to the ones the Israeli's use.) But nothing like the 28-foot high solid concrete walls in use in certain parts of the Israeli border wall/fence system. Of course, an unobserved, unpatrolled barrier is no barrier at all, so a portion of the funding would go to substantially increasing the size and capabilities of the border patrol.
I'm not siding with the illegals in any sense. But I'm telling us that we have looked in the mirror, and the enemy is US.
No. But we need to look in the mirror and see that the enemy is US. If you stood outside your front door for thirty years, and fed stray cats, and never turned one away, after 30 years you would have a fetid house filled with thousands of strays, a house that ought to be bulldozed. But blame the cats? Nah. Blame yourself.
Yeah, well, we're upset with all the illegals, so we're even.
Works for me!!!
As I sit here listening to the whining of the Mexican elite, I think of Winfield Scott and Captain Robert E Lee.
As Scott's engineer and all around go to man, the US Army supported by the US Marines and the US Navy invaded, marched all across Mexico and captured the capital.
They repeatedly defeated Santa Ana at every turn, capturing the ancient capital... the Halls of Montezuma.
The Mexicans were so pleased to be relieved of the insufferable government that they offered Scott the job of King.
Keep bugging us vincente et al..... but remember Santa Ana and Winfield Scott.
It's stealing from the American people, who are finally getting ready to put their collective foot down.
But even if I agree with your premise that it isn't stealing, that doesn't mean it's conferred any kind of right upon the illegals or their windfall beneficiaries in Mexico. If they've been getting these bennies, then that's a favor they've received from us. It in no way obligates us to keep doing it, and especially not to increase the level at which we're doing it, as we're beginning to do. They've gotten a very sweet deal out of this up till now, and so they have little basis for being upset.
If I were to construct it, it would be two walls, similar to the Berlin Wall but taller and a below ground extension of at least twenty feet to prevent tunnelling. Each wall would be identical so if they did get through one they would have another just like the first. They also need motion detectors because somebody will try to blow a hole through it to get in. Guaranteed.
I remember ATC telling my captain he could not veer left to avoid weather as it bothered other traffic redirection... well the captain answered: "you now have a problem you must solve".
That's right Mexico, bite me. We solve our problems on our territory, you solve your own accordingly and adjust, and shame on you if you can't do it.
How many illegals will be used on this fence?
And how much over budget will it run?
The paperwork alone would slow down the rate of crossing. nd think of all the possibilities for corruption.
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