Posted on 12/22/2005 7:01:42 PM PST by Peach
Edited on 12/22/2005 7:49:05 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]
Is there a lawyer in the house that can give us a summary on all this?
LOLOL. I'd love to have seen that. Thanks for the early morning laugh.
Will do!
Thank you for that much better link.
Now, will someone ping me when that geek lawyer, Jonathan Turkey, shows up on a talk show to explain his recent statements that the President has no such authority and has/is breaking the law?
Even though he's never met a camera he doesn't like, Professor Turkey just may be in hiding from the axe poised over his neck after he stuck his pencil-neck out on the chopping block.
To think that he's teaching law to our university students is despicable. To think that he's called an "expert" when introduced on a TV show is incomprehensible. To think that any president has no special powers during a war is just plain stupidity.
Leni
Turley has obviously not researched this matter being too busy rushing to the nearest camera. LOL
The odious Muslim group CAIR files a freedom of information act to obtain NSA's spying files. Good luck with THAT!
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1545895/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1545927/posts
Cases cited there are ...
Olmstead v. United States, 217 U.S. 438 (1928)
U.S. v. Butenko, 494 F.2d 593 (3d Cir. 1974) (en banc), cert. denied, 419 U.S. 881 (1974)
Ivanov v. United States (5th Cir., 1974) no citation found
Chagnon v. Bell, 642 F.2d. 1248, 1266 (DC Cir. 1980), cert. denied, 453 US 911 (1981)
Not cited in the FR link above, but a short and interesting read, especially Stewart's concurrance ...
Giordano v. United States, 394 U.S. 310 (1969)
One might suppose that all of this should be entirely clear to any careful reader of the Court's opinion in Alderman, Butenko, and Ivanov. Perhaps so, and perhaps, therefore, what I have said is quite unnecessary. But 10 years of experience here have taught me that the most carefully written opinions are not always carefully read - even by those most directly concerned.
One more ...
And I do know that no president in our nation's history has ever ceded authority to defend the country to any legislative body or any court of law.
Nor have they ever ceded it to NYT or any other self important news group.
God help us, this is WAY too many paragraphs (too difficult to get), and citing "ancient" US law (meaning: no longer applicable) for the general Congressmember or Joe American citizen.
What is it about Americans and laws more than 50 years old?
Does Levenworth use old sparkey or the firing squad?
Another suicidal national security leak
Media outlets are now racing each other to expose vital national security secrets to mass-murdering terrorists. US News & World Report just gave our enemies another tip: Dont store your dirty bomb materials in a mosque.
The US has been monitoring for radioactive materials in US mosques, because if you want to kill a lot of people, the dirty bomb is your weapon of choice. All it takes is some uranium or radium in a truck full of dynamite. If the 9/11 terrorists had carried radioactive materials on board their four hijacked aircraft, we would now be digging bomb shelters in our gardens.
As a result of this criminal leak of a vital program, future terrorists will be sure to store their radioactive materials outside of mosques. Now we do not know where to look.
Thank you, mainstream media. You may kill us all yet, but you will defend the publics right to know to the last man, woman and child in the United States.
It is past time to prosecute leakers and journalists to the full extent of the law. The US Constitution is not a suicide pact.
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The question is - WHEN WILL THE LEAKERS GO TO JAIL????
I hadn't seen those comments, and am still finding that I can be surprised at the depths to which the media will go.
Ping to #94, prairie and mo.
Yes, in fact the nuke/mosque story made it onto Special Report last night. Of course.
Were they appalled at the leak? I missed the news last night.
I love a lot of things that happen in our current American life but there isn't enough room on a FR home page to include the current and past and keep the thing from being a tome. FR is very much about what is happening right here, right now; plenty of places where we can learn those things. If you look at my posting history over a week, you'll see I go to a lot of threads on different topics.
I have always loved history and political science and respect what our founders knew and gave us. I was fortunate to be taught American history before the PC crowd took the heart and truth out of it. A lot of FReepers weren't so fortunate, so why not give our heritage a little exposure, says I.
I do understand what Winston Churchill experienced, whose country and world changed dramatically in his life time, and of whom even his contemporaries said he identified very much with the way of life that was departing. In my case, while I agree with God's wisdom, Proverbs 22:28 "Do not move the ancient boundary Which your fathers have set," I am very much a student of my day and love looking forward to what is coming. I believe what we are moving into now, as a nation, and around the world, is better than what we have had, and I am very glad to be living in this time.
What rules my life ... the very ancient, and living, Bible, and the very modern and timeless God who changes not. But current events do in large part shape us all.
It was Chris Wallace substituting for Hume. I never know how to read him nor whether to trust him. It wasn't discussed by the panel, just reported.
Personally, I thought Wallace took some delight in reporting it, but again, I dont' necessarily like him.
Thank you Jim, for this letter. Please keep it out in front as long as possible. It's the ammunition we need.
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