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To: freedomson

I hate the holiday season because all of the holier than thou/ I know better than anyone else/ my religion is better than yours/ people are on full display.

Sadly, I have found that people do the most un-God like things in the name of God. Not just the Islamocultists, but Christians and Jews as well, in many other less obvious ways.

Also, I find that religion more often than not tends to separate people rather than bring them together.

Some of things I have heard said about Jewish people by "Chruch going people" would make even the most violent skinhead blush. I have also heard some things from some of my Jewish friends that make me just want to hit someone. I am Catholic but have many many Jewish friends.

I am not an atheist by any stretch, but believe G-D could never ever intended or hopes mankind would act is does in his name.


7 posted on 12/23/2005 5:57:37 AM PST by chris1
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To: chris1
I am sorry that there are so many like that around, of course, there may not actually be that many, they just run their mouths incessantly that they are always heard. I don't understand how people can sit through church, listen to the Word and then spew judgment and hatred the other 6 days of the week. We aren't all like that, but sadly, the ones you don't hear about are the good ones because they don't run their mouths like idiots. I hope that we are the silent majority. :)
13 posted on 12/23/2005 6:07:25 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel Shall come to thee, O Israel. Merry Christmas!)
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To: chris1
I am Catholic but have many many Jewish friends. I am not an atheist by any stretch,

Good Catholics are never atheists

15 posted on 12/23/2005 6:08:23 AM PST by fml
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To: chris1
Also, I find that religion more often than not tends to separate people rather than bring them together.

No kidding. Here's what the un-PC Christ actually has to say about this:

Matthew 10:34-35 : "Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth. I have not come to bring peace but a sword."

"For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And man's foes will be those of his own household."

All the other "limitations" of Christianity that you point out may actually be the limitations of people who call themselves Christians but really aren't.

No true Christian would ever say anything offensive about Jewish people, but Christians are decidedly different than people who are "Church going". Going to Church is a cultural distinction. Being a Christian is a spiritual distinction. I hope you'll take the time to really understand the difference and actually hear the Message for what it is, not for what some "Church going" idiots tell you it is.

21 posted on 12/23/2005 6:14:23 AM PST by freebilly
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To: chris1

Unless you plan on being the next Stalin, you cannot control what other people do or don't do in the name of God. You can only control what YOU do.

Religion WILL seperate people, but only when the focus of the religion is different. The vast majority of Christians get along just fine except when the focus of the church wanders into political correctness rather than the Word.


24 posted on 12/23/2005 6:20:33 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: chris1
Some of things I have heard said about Jewish people by "Chruch going people" would make even the most violent skinhead blush.

Outside of the leftwinger churches, do any Christians actually say this? Because I ain't heard it...
29 posted on 12/23/2005 6:27:38 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: chris1
I hate the holiday season because all of the holier than thou/ I know better than anyone else/ my religion is better than yours/ people are on full display.

Don't you hate it when people make sweeping generalizations and judgements?

72 posted on 12/23/2005 8:05:38 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: chris1

"I am not an atheist by any stretch, but believe G-D could never ever intended or hopes mankind would act is does in his name."

I like the way you think- up to this point ...
In other words, "Huh?"


122 posted on 12/23/2005 2:28:18 PM PST by Anselma
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To: chris1

You ask some good questions. I wish I had the answers. But, you know what - nobody does. We all act like we have it figured out, and our particular brand of religion is the right one (or mostly right). I'm willing to promise you that when we pass over and meet our Maker, we will find out that much, if not most, of what we accepted as dogma simply isn't true, or is so simplistic that is does not begin to describe what is. God makes it very clear in the Bible that we do not have the ability to understand God and the universe, beyond the little that we (think) we know.

So, what's important? I think a shared set of beliefs is very important to us, because that's the way we are made. Shared because that has many benefits, too many to state here.

Me - I just try to keep it simple. God is, the Bible is God's word to us, Jesus is the Messiah, and the Ten Commandments rule. Most of the rest is open for debate, in my opinion.


126 posted on 12/23/2005 3:04:06 PM PST by SuzyQue
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