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Freep this Poll
MSNBC ^ | Dec 23 2005 | MSNBC Webpage

Posted on 12/23/2005 12:50:49 PM PST by Orion78

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment?

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1 posted on 12/23/2005 12:50:50 PM PST by Orion78
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To: Orion78

That one has been hijacked by DU Dummies.


2 posted on 12/23/2005 12:52:04 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: Orion78

Pretty hopeless but freeped anyway.


3 posted on 12/23/2005 12:52:06 PM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: Orion78

Talk about a wishful thinking poll question.


4 posted on 12/23/2005 12:53:35 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Lancer_N3502A

The only folks who watch that network.


5 posted on 12/23/2005 12:54:00 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Orion78
Do I believe there's a snowball's chance of the House voting to impeach???
6 posted on 12/23/2005 12:54:30 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Lancer_N3502A

Yeah, it is being peddled on other boards as overwhelming evidence that Bush is going down....


7 posted on 12/23/2005 12:54:39 PM PST by Orion78 (Only a slave can work with no right to the product of his effort.)
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To: saganite

I don't know that it is hopeless, the one 'yes' answer has only 85%, while the two 'no' choices have about 10 % between them!


8 posted on 12/23/2005 12:55:16 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: saganite

Since it is so lopsided, perhaps, we should vote "yes" just to make it more ridiculous than it already is.


9 posted on 12/23/2005 12:55:43 PM PST by asp1
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To: Orion78
You're wasting your time.

133531 responses

10 posted on 12/23/2005 12:55:49 PM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Orion78
Our web servers cannot find the page or file you asked for. The link you followed may be broken or expired.

Looks like they pulled it

11 posted on 12/23/2005 12:55:50 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Orion78
If the regular polls show Bush's numbers on the rise the Dummies will latch on to Internet polls.
12 posted on 12/23/2005 12:55:52 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Orion78

I guess the respondents didn't see this:

An executive order issued by President Carter in January 1978 established the standard that governs the use of searches for intelligence purposes today. Such searches, it said, ‘’shall not be undertaken against a United States person without a judicial warrant, unless the President has authorized the type of activity involved and the Attorney General has both approved the particular activity and determined that there is probable cause to believe that the United States person is an agent of a foreign power.'’



13 posted on 12/23/2005 12:55:56 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Orion78

What sane people would actually go to MSNBC?
Only libs and greenies go there


15 posted on 12/23/2005 12:56:57 PM PST by Barte45 (Conservative Christian @ Heart)
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To: BenLurkin

sorry, but yes, I do believe there is a chance. if it just went down party lines, he'd be fine. But we've so many RINOs in the House that i believe it could happen.


16 posted on 12/23/2005 12:57:58 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: theDentist

No way.


17 posted on 12/23/2005 12:58:48 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: theDentist

They'd only try it if Bush's numbers plummet again.


18 posted on 12/23/2005 12:59:37 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Orion78
If you click on the link next to where it says "Not a scientific poll", you get a page with the following as the first paragraph:

One week in the middle of the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal, more than 200,000 people took part in an MSNBC Live Vote that asked whether President Clinton should leave office. Seventy-three percent said yes. That same week, an NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll found that only 34 percent of about 2,000 people who were surveyed thought so.

To explain the vast gap in the numbers in this and other similar cases, it is necessary to look at the difference in the two kinds of surveys.


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19 posted on 12/23/2005 1:00:46 PM PST by Democracy In Iraq (When a soldier dies, a protester gloats, a family cries, an Iraqi votes)
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To: Orion78

Vote yes: it can only sober the Democrats to consider having to prove their accusations in the Senate.


20 posted on 12/23/2005 1:00:47 PM PST by Grut
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To: Peach

Thanks for the reply, I've been telling my friends for weeks that Bush isn't the first to spy without a warrant. Don't get me wrong, I don't condone the action but I don't think Bush is setting a precedence... This stuff has been going on for a long time and the fact that the media has suddenly decided it important enough to report speaks volumes of the bias they claim they don't have.


21 posted on 12/23/2005 1:03:58 PM PST by Orion78 (Only a slave can work with no right to the product of his effort.)
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To: Orion78

I am old enough to remember Nixon's demise. He was a president that had just been elected by one of the most overwhelming landslides in history and it only took the mainstream media 1.5 years to get the impeachment movement going and to have a lot of people who voted for him asking for his head.

This is how it starts, online polls, late night talk show jokes, talking heads using it as a throw away line, i.e, "I would never call muy opponent a wife beater and no one in my office has every called my opponent a wife beater, I wouldn't stand for anyone calling my opponent a wifebeater", pretty soon his opponent is thought of as a possible wife beater. Get the picture? Look at how quickly his favorables and the opinion on the war changed. Do I think it will happen? Of course not, but I am sure there were more than a few Clintonistas that were shocked by his impeachment. All it would take would be a slight change in the makeup of the House in 06 and all bets are off. You have enough Rhinos in both houses to make it scary. The Pubs will never vote in lockstep like the Dems did with Clinton. Never underestimate your opponents.


22 posted on 12/23/2005 1:08:27 PM PST by redangus
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To: Orion78
Satire of MSN/DU Poll

Closing Vote
Do you believe MSM' actions justify Bankruptcy? * 133713 responses


Yes, between the lying, the deceptions attempting to loose the war and more, there is plenty to justify putting them all out of business.
2%

No, they continue to make a few missteps, but nothing approaching a call for bankruptcy.
5%

No, the media has done absolutely nothing wrong. A call for bankruptcy would just be a political lynching the Far Right Evangelicals.
8%

I don't know, I'm still stuck on stupid.
85%

23 posted on 12/23/2005 1:09:05 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Orion78

Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment?   * 134006 responses



Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
85%


No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
5%


No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%


I don't know.
2%


Not a scientifically valid survey. Click to learn more.


24 posted on 12/23/2005 1:13:52 PM PST by rightinthemiddle (I might be wrong, but I'm always right.)
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To: Orion78

This pole needs some serious freeping.


25 posted on 12/23/2005 1:14:56 PM PST by rushmom (l)
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To: redangus
The Defeatocrats are making complete and utter asses of themselves - thanks primarily to left-wing Michael Moore, Dean, and Reid, they are showing that they are incapable of leading America.
26 posted on 12/23/2005 1:15:36 PM PST by FreeRep
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To: Orion78

Looks unfreepable at this point. MSNBC's viewer must have found a way to vote multiple times.


27 posted on 12/23/2005 1:18:34 PM PST by KarinG1 (Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
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To: Orion78

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1546229/posts

Sides 'freep' newspaper's poll question on spying


28 posted on 12/23/2005 1:20:41 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: KarinG1
Actually, Bush should be impeached if he does not follow and snoop on enemy agents, American citizens who aid or abet the enemy, utilize propaganda, seek to destroy any threat to our nation or constitution.
29 posted on 12/23/2005 1:23:38 PM PST by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: Orion78

The stupid is thick in that poll.


30 posted on 12/23/2005 1:25:59 PM PST by fml
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To: Orion78

We're getting TROUNCED! POLLS ARE STUPID!


31 posted on 12/23/2005 1:30:56 PM PST by manwiththehands (BESURETODRINKYOUROVALTINE)
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To: Orion78

Then you'll appreciate this one too. In addition to this former Clinton administration official, several prominent judges, including Judge Ponser, have said that all presidents retain the ability to run the same kind of program out of NSA that President Bush is running.

Former Clinton Official Contradicts Leahy on Spying
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
December 23, 2005

(CNSNews.com) -- Claims by a top Senate Democrat that the Clinton administration's warrantless surveillance of suspected spies and terrorists was different from what the Bush administration has employed are being contradicted by a former Justice Department official who served under President Bill Clinton.

John Schmidt, who served as associate attorney general between 1994 and 1997, argues that both Congress and the Supreme Court have recognized presidents' "inherent authority" to bypass warrants in ordering the eavesdropping of U.S. citizens suspected of conspiring with foreign governments or terrorists to injure or kill Americans.

On Wednesday, Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, chided reporters for suggesting that Clinton ordered the same kinds of surveillance of U.S. citizens as Bush. Leahy claimed in a press conference that Clinton acted under an "entirely different power.

"If you go back to Clinton and (President Jimmy) Carter, those are searches under a FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) provision into embassies, foreign embassies, things of that nature," Leahy argued. "It's an entirely different situation."


32 posted on 12/23/2005 1:33:29 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: mainepatsfan; All
Fat Chris has destroyed PMSNBC no wonder no one watches anyway. Monica will sure as hell have her work cut out for her, anyone know when she starts up?
33 posted on 12/23/2005 1:43:31 PM PST by rodguy911 (Support Able Danger and Lt.Col Shaffer,Condi Rice/VP in 08--)
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To: rodguy911

My local bank has this network on it's television above the counter as you wait in line. I think that counts for about a third of their total audience.


34 posted on 12/23/2005 1:46:30 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Orion78

You might also want to send your friends this letter from the Assistant Attorney General to the Senate Intelligence Committee Chairmen.

It was filled with information regarding which cases DOJ thinks supports the president's position.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1545567/posts?page=208#208


35 posted on 12/23/2005 1:49:10 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: mainepatsfan

or maybe half.


36 posted on 12/23/2005 1:51:34 PM PST by rodguy911 (Support Able Danger and Lt.Col Shaffer,Condi Rice/VP in 08--)
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To: Orion78

Prejumped by the Dirty Underpants crowd:

Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
85%
No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
5%
No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%
I don't know.
2%


37 posted on 12/23/2005 1:53:42 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: Peach
Great take Peach and Merry Christmas to you and the family!

Just heard Marc Levin on WABC sitting in for Sean interview some guy who named senator after senator that had exhaustive briefings by high ranking adm. officials over the presidents powers to use electronic eavesdropping devices etc. This whole thing is so bogus, IMHO. Just more get GW.
38 posted on 12/23/2005 1:55:09 PM PST by rodguy911 (Support Able Danger and Lt.Col Shaffer,Condi Rice/VP in 08--)
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To: Orion78

Don't encourage them.


39 posted on 12/23/2005 2:00:56 PM PST by oldbrowser (Release the Barrett Report)
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To: rodguy911

A blessed Christmas to you and your family too, Rodguy.

Glad to hear that Levin has been on top of this matter; the left lies so often I'm beginning to think it's a requirement in order to belong to the party.


40 posted on 12/23/2005 2:13:05 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Orion78

This poll needs to be freeped, but if we all freep it, that will be more viewers than they have in a whole week...LOL


41 posted on 12/23/2005 2:15:13 PM PST by Mikmur
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To: Mr_Moonlight
Our web servers cannot find the page or file you asked for. The link you followed may be broken or expired.

Looks like they pulled it

Nope. Your firewall must be blocking it. The lefties are trying to slip you a cookie. I don't take cookies from commies either. ;-)

42 posted on 12/23/2005 2:35:22 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: carumba

I agree wholeheartedly.


43 posted on 12/23/2005 3:17:33 PM PST by KarinG1 (Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
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To: redangus; BenLurkin
"All it would take would be a slight change in the makeup of the House in 06 and all bets are off. You have enough Rhinos in both houses to make it scary. The Pubs will never vote in lockstep like the Dems did with Clinton. Never underestimate your opponents."

BenLurkin,

I agree with Redangus on this one, wild animals are especially dangerous when desperate and backed into a corner.
44 posted on 12/23/2005 3:31:58 PM PST by Orion78 (Only a slave can work with no right to the product of his effort.)
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I just want to say I do not condone voting multiple times. I just wanted more people out there to be aware of this poll in order to provide a more "diverse" result.


45 posted on 12/23/2005 3:34:17 PM PST by Orion78 (Only a slave can work with no right to the product of his effort.)
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To: Mr_Moonlight

No, it's there, but pointless to bother with. It's been moonbated.


46 posted on 12/23/2005 3:54:43 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: redangus
"This is how it starts, online polls, late night talk show jokes ,

I can't stand them anymore. Even Leno has been stepping up the Bush jokes. Not ONE of those so called comedy talk shows attacks the DemocRATs. It's just not funny anymore, it's disgusting. They all need a good punch in the mouth. That would be funny.

47 posted on 12/23/2005 4:05:14 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: KarinG1
"Looks unfreepable at this point. MSNBC's viewer must have found a way to vote multiple times."

Perhaps some of them have discovered that if, after voting, they delete any cookie beginning with "MSNBC", they can vote ad infinitum.
48 posted on 12/23/2005 4:07:59 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (")
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To: rushmom

The Dummies were all over this this AM.


49 posted on 12/23/2005 4:14:36 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: redangus
He was a president that had just been elected by one of the most overwhelming landslides in history and it only took the mainstream media 1.5 years to get the impeachment movement going and to have a lot of people who voted for him asking for his head.

I voted for Nixon twice. In his case, he lied to us and we wanted him out. All he had to do was come clean about the break-in (of which he had no prior knowledge) instead of participating in the cover up.

50 posted on 12/23/2005 4:38:58 PM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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