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(Ruled Suicide) Medical examiner: 4-6 weeks to determine cause of Dungy's death
Associated Press (via Yahoo) ^ | December 23, 2005 | AP

Posted on 12/23/2005 4:27:11 PM PST by newzjunkey

LUTZ, Fla. (AP) -- A medical examiner's preliminary report Friday confirmed that the 18-year-old son of Indianapolis Colts coach Tony Dungy took his own life, although the cause of death will not be determined for four to six weeks.

Dr. Jacqueline Lee released the findings and said there was no evidence of foul play. Lee ordered a toxicology study, and until it is finished the cause and manner of James Dungy's death are listed as pending.

ADVERTISEMENT His girlfriend found him unresponsive early Thursday, Hillsborough County Sheriff's spokeswoman Debbie Carter said. Carter said evidence at the scene indicated he had killed himself.

A sheriff's deputy performed CPR before an ambulance took him to University Community Hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

Tony Dungy took the team plane from Indianapolis to Tampa, Fla., where he had coached the Buccaneers from 1996-01. He has taken leave from the team, which is 13-1 and will be coached by assistant Jim Caldwell for Saturday's game at Seattle.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: buccaneers; bucs; colts; depression; dungy; indianapolis; jamesdungy; suicide; tampabay; tonydungy
A sad holiday season for the Dungy family.

Too many ignore signs of suicidal depression. This young man probably had friends who knew but didn't want to see the reality.

RIP.

1 posted on 12/23/2005 4:27:13 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: newzjunkey

I wish they'd give a clue as to what evidence makes them think this is a suicide.


3 posted on 12/23/2005 4:34:37 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: newzjunkey
"Too many ignore signs of suicidal depression"

I think there are eight signs that point to suicide, if a person shows four or five of them this means trouble, but this death could also be accidental. It's really tragic considering the time of year and the person Tony Dungy is. Something is terribly wrong when a parent has to go to his or hers child's funeral.
4 posted on 12/23/2005 4:37:55 PM PST by skimask (Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them.)
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To: Dog Gone
I wish they'd give a clue as to what evidence makes them think this is a suicide.

BTTT

yep!

Evidence!

......I don't see suicide BEFORE the Superbowl,....after,...maybe....

Evidence!

BTTT

5 posted on 12/23/2005 4:42:44 PM PST by maestro
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Head FB coaches ae always at work and it must suck to know that you were too busy to know what was going on with your own son. However, he was an adult and we don't know the facts.


6 posted on 12/23/2005 4:46:32 PM PST by freeplancer
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To: Dog Gone

"I wish they'd give a clue as to what evidence makes them think this is a suicide."

A note, maybe?


8 posted on 12/23/2005 4:51:11 PM PST by Andy'smom
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To: Andy'smom
I guess that's most likely, since you don't need toxicology tests to determine whether a gunshot wound or a hanging caused the death.

But I don't see why that information should be withheld from us. I'm not wanting to see the note. I'd just like to know why they're sure it's a suicide.

9 posted on 12/23/2005 4:53:59 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: E5C4P3; All
.....Dungy's tough as nails, as a player and coach. But this must have destroyed him as a man.

Tony and family are supposed to be christians......they NEED our prayers and the HOLY SPIRIT's COMFORT.....

Tony CAN,....carry this 'cross' with great sorrow and live WITH HOPE ETERNAL.

Jesus is the HOPE of the world,....HIS Promises are HOPE....GOD CANNOT 'Lie'.....Titus 1:2

Prayer and tears ongoing for Tony and Family,....church family too!

(Romans 10:17)

Maranatha!

10 posted on 12/23/2005 4:56:46 PM PST by maestro
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To: Andy'smom

James Dungy had also apparently attempt to commit suicide via a prescription drug overdose back in October.


11 posted on 12/23/2005 4:59:10 PM PST by LWalk18
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To: Dog Gone

"I wish they'd give a clue as to what evidence makes them think this is a suicide."

I'm guessing there was probably a note, since there were other people in the house with him. There must be something compelling to rule out accident or foul play, and I suppose it is clear he did not die of natural causes.

This really makes me very sad. I really love Tony Dungy, he reminds me so much of my own dad. In fact, I root for whatever team he coaches, because I always pick my football teams based on the coach. From all reports he is just as fine a man as I've always thought he was. This is such a tragedy for the family.

We had a completely unexpected suicide in our family some years ago, not this close to Christmas, but in December. We knew my sis-in-law had some serious mental problems, but there was never any sign she'd harm herself. It was a complete shock, and also gave one a sense of failure. Then later there was anger at her. It is still very sad, and so sad she had missed so much happiness in the family.

I just am reeling that this has happened to this fine man and his family. But you know, my in-laws are a pretty nice family too. There is no escaping mental illness, it is really the worst thing, I think.


12 posted on 12/23/2005 5:09:21 PM PST by jocon307 (Still mourning the loss of CBS FM)
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To: newzjunkey
I wish people would not speculate about another family's grief.

It's really none of anyone's business, even tho the man is 'public' figure.Just my opinion.

13 posted on 12/23/2005 5:12:55 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: OldFriend

I agree. There is no "need to know" for anyone except the family.


14 posted on 12/23/2005 5:19:18 PM PST by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: freeplancer

Thanks for posting what I was thinking . My prayers are with Him and his family. Perhaps some one wants the colts to be off there game. Maybe more to this story. We will see


15 posted on 12/23/2005 5:52:01 PM PST by al baby (Father of the beeber)
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To: newzjunkey

It was reported that James Dungy called 911 a few weeks ago aftger taking 13 Naproxen (Alleve.) They showed a copy of the polict report. Florida has something - I think they called it the Baker Act - that allows police to take someone into protective custody. They did this to James but apparently released him. The whole report was strange in that it bought this topic up and showed the police report, but ended without offering any conclusions from what was reported to be a first attempt at suicide some weeks ago.


16 posted on 12/23/2005 6:01:06 PM PST by IamConservative (Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times will pick himself up and carry on.)
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To: IamConservative

They have the report I saw online at wthr.com. The previous call was made 8 weeks ago and they say "prescription pain medicine" in the report. On live tv your could read "Naproxen."


17 posted on 12/23/2005 6:07:20 PM PST by IamConservative (Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times will pick himself up and carry on.)
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My mother-in-law told one of her sons to not even think about suicide because it was selfish. She said his problems might be over but ours would just be beginning.

Suicide - a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

RIP James. God Bless the Dungy family.


18 posted on 12/23/2005 6:24:10 PM PST by ninergold3 (aka GiantsPrincess)
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To: IamConservative

The whole "protective custody" situation is really a joke in practice.


19 posted on 12/23/2005 6:42:18 PM PST by TNdandelion
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To: newzjunkey
Not commenting or even suggesting anything about this case but in situations where a person has died of suffocation, many are ruled suicides that were really sexual accidents.
20 posted on 12/23/2005 7:12:18 PM PST by fso301
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I wonder if anti-depressants are involved.
22 posted on 12/23/2005 7:23:24 PM PST by stevecmd
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To: Dog Gone
But I don't see why that information should be withheld from us.

Maybe out of respect for his family and their privacy?

23 posted on 12/23/2005 7:26:10 PM PST by darkangel82
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To: darkangel82
It doesn't work that way. A death is a public event and the cause of death is a matter of public record. For everyone, not just celebrities. It's important for a number of reasons, mostly legal.

We will know eventually how and why this man died, just like you can find out the reason for the death of anyone else in America if you choose to look.

I guess we don't have to know that there was a suicide note, but we can certainly find the cause of death if we wish to pursue it.

24 posted on 12/23/2005 7:32:18 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: IamConservative
If this was a suicide someone like Dungy could do a lot of good if he comes out like Robert Shapiro and talks about this to save someone else from the same thing.

Suicide and depression among young people is too prevalent these days, people are frankly pushing kids too hard at too young an age and they never learn how to be kids anymore -- knowing how to be a kid helps as you age and are faced with pressure.

25 posted on 12/23/2005 7:58:05 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: freeplancer
Tony Dungy is known around here (and in Tampa) for scheduling his team's responsibilities so that he is able to take his kids to and from school at least once per week, and so that they have at least one entire afternoon together on a second weekday every week. They are also at most games and practices. He's definitely not an absentee Dad, no matter how successful he is. The scuttlebutt around here is that he'll leave the NFL, no matter his recent long-term lucrative deal, no matter if he wons or loses the Super Bowl. His family and his Faith come first. Football is a distant third to this man.
26 posted on 12/23/2005 9:10:58 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: ninergold3

When a friend of mine committed suicide I realized how selfish of an act it was. I had to sit with his daughters and explain what he had told me, how he had lied to me so he could be alone to commit the act, and was asked by his widow to clean up his personal and business items because she was devastated.

Suicide makes things worse.

May God comfort the Dungy family and their friends.


27 posted on 12/23/2005 9:18:44 PM PST by Loud Mime (Libs will oppose terrorists when they turn into smoking, christian, whale killers)
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To: Teacher317

This is a great person of faith, on and off the football field. This is pure tragedy, when we are all celebrating the CHRISTMAS season.

If coach does decide to leave, it's because he has his priorities in complete order, obviously not because of any selfish means.

BTW, didn't Bill Cosby's son, Ennis, pass away during the holiday season???

God bless the Dungy family.


28 posted on 12/23/2005 9:20:45 PM PST by cleveland gop (saying "Merry Christmas" always works)
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Was I the only one who briefly saw the thread yesterday about James Dungy's myspace.com web page and postings? It was a portrait of a dark and disturbed young man. One post even stated, in more or less terms, "I can't talk to anyone anymore." There were lots of references to drugs and the rap culture. It was really sad.

The thread here was pulled, and his myspace.com page disappeared a while later.

29 posted on 12/23/2005 9:41:55 PM PST by TurnerBrown ( { v } Earn more sessions by sleeving. { ^ })
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To: jocon307

The local Florida news reported he got in a fight with his girlfriend and she left and when she came back he was hanging by his own belt !


30 posted on 12/23/2005 9:52:18 PM PST by america-rules
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To: al baby

I may have misunderstood your statement but it sounds preposterous. Talk about your tin-foil hats...


31 posted on 12/23/2005 10:04:09 PM PST by snakedriver
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To: Dog Gone

"No suicide note was found, according to police."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051223/sp_nm/football_dungy_dc


32 posted on 12/24/2005 1:08:53 AM PST by blondee123 (Close our borders to illegals! Don't try to appease us!)
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To: Teacher317

Thanks for the info. Godspeed to him.


33 posted on 12/24/2005 4:16:50 AM PST by freeplancer
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