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NYT: NSA Spying Broader Than Bush Admitted
Yahoo.Com ^ | 12/23/2005 | AP

Posted on 12/23/2005 9:44:00 PM PST by Bullitt

NEW YORK - The National Security Agency has conducted much broader surveillance of e-mails and phone calls — without court orders — than the Bush administration has acknowledged, The New York Times reported on its Web site.

The NSA, with help from American telecommunications companies, obtained access to streams of domestic and international communications, said the Times in the report late Friday, citing unidentified current and former government officials.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benedictarnolds; carnivore; cialeaks; echelon; homelandsecurity; leaks; nsa; nyt; patriotleak
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The NY Times should be treated as an enemy.
1 posted on 12/23/2005 9:44:01 PM PST by Bullitt
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To: Bullitt

The New York Times is determined to expose our dastardly self-protection.


2 posted on 12/23/2005 9:45:38 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Bullitt
Why doesn't it occur to these a-holes that Bush isn't coming clean on these because it's a secret program?

Oh, wit--they KNOW it's a secret program.

Traitorous *&&^$%&!!!!

3 posted on 12/23/2005 9:46:03 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Warning: Adult language, but great Christmas message: http://foamy.libertech.net/noxmas.swf)
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To: Bullitt

While I'd like to post the "Not this (stuff) again" jpeg, I'll just sigh.


4 posted on 12/23/2005 9:48:03 PM PST by snakedriver
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To: Bullitt
NY Times are idiots. The US Government has had agreements with the telecom companies since the 1940s. If JoeUSA wants to have a "private conversation" there are ways to do it. You just can't use the telecom lines -- or at least don't use them conventionally.

You can get scramblers for phones and encryption software for email.

The "right" to a private phone conversation or email ends as soon as the transmission leaves your property. By using a telecom line, you are freely and knowingly transmitting beyond your private property. Now, set up a LAN and email your buddy in the other room or a phone switch and keep the calls on your personal PBX -- that is true privacy.

5 posted on 12/23/2005 9:50:16 PM PST by xrp (Conservative votes are to Republicans what 90% of black votes are to Democrats (taken for granted))
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To: Darkwolf377

GWB needs to find the leak in his administration and plug it with a Predator drone


6 posted on 12/23/2005 9:50:28 PM PST by Bullitt
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"Citing unidentified current and former government officials various and sundry traitors, terrorist sympathizers, anti W zealots, lawless and cynical leakers of top secret information."

I think that accurately stats the position of the NYT 'Sources'.

7 posted on 12/23/2005 9:51:22 PM PST by TCats
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To: snakedriver

Posting the picture has never been more necessary than with this latest NYT mud pie.


8 posted on 12/23/2005 9:52:21 PM PST by Crooked Constituent
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To: Bullitt
"Citing unidentified current and former government officials various and sundry traitors, terrorist sympathizers, anti W zealots, lawless and cynical leakers of top secret information."

I think that accurately states the position of the NYT 'Sources'.

9 posted on 12/23/2005 9:52:43 PM PST by TCats
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To: Bullitt

There is a War going on and it is not in Iraq!!!


10 posted on 12/23/2005 9:53:13 PM PST by tubebender (You can't make Chicken Soup from Chicken Poop...)
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To: ASA Vet; Grampa Dave; HiJinx; beyond the sea
XG ping

Meade vs NYT.....giving odds.
11 posted on 12/23/2005 9:55:23 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: Bullitt

"should be treated as an enemy"

Of the country, yes. Of Bush - heck no! Its clowns like the NY Times that tell the country that Bush is actually doing something while he's not on TV. They create an atmosphere that there's something going on! I want it stated quite plainly: Politically, I LOVE the NY Times. "Oh God, Bush is sniffing for radiation! Oh No!!!!" Oh yes, I say. He's "doing something". He's "after the bad guys". He didn't take a nap after launching a few cruise missiles. Thanks for shouting it to the world :) Keep on keepin' on.


12 posted on 12/23/2005 9:56:13 PM PST by mudblood
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To: Bullitt
...."citing unidentified current and former government officials."

Translation: they made it up.

13 posted on 12/23/2005 9:57:05 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Bullitt

Bush's momentum was just starting to pick up. The polls were shifting on Iraq, Iraq had another sucessful election, and one day after the election, the NYT splashes leaked information in an effort to get Bush. And what was probably working in a quiet and effective way has been highlighted to the world and our enemies.

SURREAL.

This is mass suicide on the part of the old media (NYT) and patriot act flip flopping democrats.


14 posted on 12/23/2005 9:58:29 PM PST by Crooked Constituent
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This is a political propaganda offensive. It began the day after the successful Iraqi elections. It is designed to push the President's approval ratings back down and improve the chances of Democrats in the 2006 elections. It was scripted and coordinated in advance. These "revelations" of the New York Times are the chapters of James Risen's soon to be published book of which I believe 95 percent will be old, declassified information with 5 percent leaked information from someone in Congress or perhaps on the FISA court.
15 posted on 12/23/2005 9:58:41 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: Bullitt
"NYT: NSA Spying Broader Than Bush Admitted"

Yeah, but you don't have the need to know. So SHADDAP!

16 posted on 12/23/2005 10:00:28 PM PST by Enterprise (Anytime liberals are in power, nobody's in charge.)
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To: Crooked Constituent

I dont think they are going to have time for suicide. They crossed the line and I hope no one lets them back.


17 posted on 12/23/2005 10:02:13 PM PST by Bullitt
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To: Bullitt

The RATs and their fellow travelers are digging their own graves on this one.

We all know that this is directed against muslim extremists, not against us. My feeling is that 95% of the non-muslims in the US support this kind of measure -- the Old Media and the RATs are diggin their own grave.

The day will come when the RATs have only muslims as their voting block.

W's approval ratings are going up. A few more revelations by the NY Times and he could hit 60% in the next month...


18 posted on 12/23/2005 10:06:02 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Bullitt
The once mighty NYT must be dying and is lashing out in it's death throes.

I think they are describing Carnivore which was around before Bush.

19 posted on 12/23/2005 10:06:32 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Mike Darancette

Does anyone have that graph that shows the downward trend of NYT? I've seen it posted on other threads.


20 posted on 12/23/2005 10:10:20 PM PST by Crooked Constituent
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