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EU to Catholic Doctors: Thou Shalt Abort
BrusselsJournal.com ^ | 12-24-2005

Posted on 12/24/2005 10:50:56 AM PST by spkpls4

Do abortionists wish each other a Merry Christmas?

Every year one in three pregnancies worldwide ends in an abortion. A total of 40 million abortions are performed each year, which means that since 1980 one billion children have not been allowed to be born. Contemplating Baby Jesus in the crib one may wonder whether the fact that there are 6.5 billion of us today instead of 7.5 billion is a human achievement or not. Some think it is, some think it is not. But why do those who consider universal legalised abortion to be a sign of progress want to force those who regard abortion as a crime to be a part of it?

A European Union advisory panel has issued a statement saying that medical professionals are not allowed to refuse to participate in abortions. According to the EU Network of Independent Experts on Fundamental Rights doctors should be forced to perform abortions, even if they have conscientious objections, because the right to abort a child is an “international human right.”

The Network, which consists of one expert per EU member state, assists the European Commission and the European Parliament in developing EU policy on fundamental rights. The Network wrote a 40-page opinion stressing that the right to conscientious objection is not “unlimited.” The opinion was given in connection with a proposed treaty between the Vatican and Slovakia. This treaty includes a guarantee that Catholic hospitals in Slovakia will not be legally obliged to “perform artificial abortions, artificial or assisted fertilizations, experiments with or handling of human organs, human embryos or human sex cells, euthanasia, cloning, sterilizations, [and] acts connected with contraception.”

continue article at http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/596


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholichospitals; conscienceclause; eu; eurabia; europeanchristians; eurotrash; medicine

1 posted on 12/24/2005 10:50:57 AM PST by spkpls4
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To: spkpls4

Blasphemy!


2 posted on 12/24/2005 10:52:56 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: TXBSAFH
A European Union advisory panel has issued a statement saying that medical professionals are not allowed to refuse to participate in abortions.

This is an outrage. They are a bunch of Socialist Nazis! I imagine that they'll throw the doctors in jail eventually like English merchants who dare to use ounces and pounds.

3 posted on 12/24/2005 10:56:22 AM PST by Sociopathocracy (Ad majorem Dei gloriam)
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To: spkpls4

They need to import immigrants to perform the abortions the natives won't.


4 posted on 12/24/2005 10:57:40 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: spkpls4

"International Human Right?" Murder is a human right? Who the heck are these people?


5 posted on 12/24/2005 11:10:27 AM PST by The Cuban
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To: spkpls4
According to the EU Network of Independent Experts on Fundamental Rights doctors should be forced to perform abortions, even if they have conscientious objections...

This will work out great, until they figure out that there are podiatrists, psychiatrists, dermetologists, urologists, etc...

6 posted on 12/24/2005 11:11:25 AM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: spkpls4

What are they going to do, force a doctor's hand to abort? When, in the concept of liberty, did it become proper to force another autononomous individual to act against their conscience, in the absence of clear and present danger?


7 posted on 12/24/2005 11:14:21 AM PST by The Cuban
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To: spkpls4

what about freedom of religion? they shouldn't be forcing docctors to carry out abortions if their religious beliefs prohibit them. isn't EU enlightened?


8 posted on 12/24/2005 11:16:02 AM PST by Cinnamon
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To: spkpls4

This is why my aunt quit the nursing profession 15 years ago. The hospital administration made it a condition of continued employment, that the staff had to sign a paper stating they would assist in abortions.


9 posted on 12/24/2005 11:16:22 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("The Less You Have...The More They'll Take"- bf)
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To: spkpls4
because the right to abort a child is an “international human right.”

Well, actually, not quite yet, because although hillary worked very hard at the Beijing reproductive rights conference to put this through, the UN leaders and NGOs haven't actually succeeded in doing so, yet.

But if hillary gets herself elected in 2008, it will be one of the first items on her to-do list.

10 posted on 12/24/2005 11:16:50 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: spkpls4
I say we invite those doctors who refuse to kill babies, to immigrate to the USA. We have a shortage of medical professionals here, and since the EUzies don't like them, it seems a good resolution. Let them suffer from lack of medical care at their own hands.
11 posted on 12/24/2005 11:30:49 AM PST by Adiemus (Iraqi's wave purple fingers, liberals wave white flags)
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To: Adiemus

Double ditto!


12 posted on 12/24/2005 11:31:54 AM PST by reg45
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To: spkpls4

I guess the Euros are still horified that, despite their best efforts, their replacement rate is STILL above 1.0. More abortions are needed to combat this problem. Can't have too many young white people walking around--it might offend all those new Muslim immigrants.


13 posted on 12/24/2005 11:35:43 AM PST by rbg81
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To: spkpls4

Amazing. I wonder how many doctors will retire so as to not have to perform abortions.


14 posted on 12/24/2005 11:36:46 AM PST by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: rbg81

Must not offend Muslims


15 posted on 12/24/2005 11:38:21 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Merry Christmas to all our troops at home and abroad!!)
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To: spkpls4

It is time to step up and be counted, the Nazis are back.

Seventy years ago, too many Europeans looked the other way when the Nazis started their campaign of genocide and demonization. Nevertheless, though the media cult might prefer we forgot it, many Catholics and other Christians did in fact accept literal martyrdom rather than collaborate with the Holocaust.

How far are those of today willing to go in resisting this monstrous evil? Today's Nazis don't have gas chambers and concentration camps, at least not yet, so is the loss of a medical practice or perhaps a jail sentence really too great a price to pay, in view of the example set by the truly righteous within living memory?
"Never Again?"
Fill the EU's prisons with objectors if need be, anything else would be a betrayal of those who have gone before.


16 posted on 12/24/2005 12:01:14 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (Islamo-terrorists: Strike force of the MSM)
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To: The Cuban
The easy answer for the docs is not to be qualified to perform them. GPs don't do abortions, nor do allergists or dermatologists.

IIRC California, seeing the dropping number of doctors qualified to do abortions tried to mandate the training. Not sure where it went.
17 posted on 12/24/2005 12:05:50 PM PST by Starwolf
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To: TXBSAFH

"Every year one in three pregnancies worldwide ends in an abortion."

Where did they get this statistic? It sounds really fishy to me.


18 posted on 12/24/2005 12:27:48 PM PST by xtargeter
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To: Starwolf

Or just come up with some hocus reason that performing an abortion might be detrimental to the mother's health.

That's exactly what I'd do. Turn this abortion argument right over on its head.


19 posted on 12/24/2005 8:38:47 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: spkpls4
the right to conscientious objection is not “unlimited.”

"Freedom of choice" but only for the correct "choices."

20 posted on 12/26/2005 11:38:02 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
From TorontoFreePress .... continuation of article.

The Network states that agreements which guarantee Catholic doctors and nurses a right not to be involved in abortions violate EU law. Leftist groups have complained that some new EU members – namely Lithuania, Poland and Slovakia – are so overwhelmingly Catholic that far too few doctors are willing to perform abortions. This makes it hard for women who want an abortion to find a doctor who has no conscientious objection. In such cases, the EU experts say, doctors should be forced to abort:

“Indeed, the right to religious conscientious objection may conflict with other rights, also recognized under international law. In such circumstances, an adequate balance must be struck between these conflicting requirements, which may not lead to one right being sacrificed to another.”

The experts declare that the right to religious conscientious objection “should be regulated in order to ensure that, in circumstances where abortion is legal, no woman shall be deprived from having effective access to the medical service of abortion. In the view of the Network, this implies that the State concerned must ensure, first, that an effective remedy should be open to challenge any refusal to provide abortion; second, that an obligation will be imposed on the health care practitioner exercising his or her right to religious conscientious objection to refer the woman seeking abortion to another qualified health care practitioner who will agree to perform the abortion; third, that another qualified health care practitioner will be indeed available, including in rural areas or in areas which are geographically remote from the centre.”

Recently there was a row about a display in the building of the European Parliament in Brussels of a poster comparing abortion with the holocaust. The poster was part of an exhibition organised by Members of the European Parliament belonging to the League of Polish Families. When leftist MEPs tried to rip the posters down a tussle broke out between MEPs. A group of 500 self-proclaimed “women’s rights and human rights leaders” subsequently wrote a letter to Josep Borrell-Fontelles, the president of the Parliament, to express their “outrage”.

Apart from the right of a woman to an abortion, which according to the EU’s “experts on fundamental rights” overrules the right of medical professionals to conscientious objections, some argue that there is also the right of the unborn child to live. People who think so are looked upon as “rightwing loonies” by self-styled sophisticated secularists. The latter claim that the unborn have no rights at all. The EU experts clearly belong to this group. This explains why, in their search for an “adequate balance to be struck between conflicting requirements, which may not lead to one right being sacrificed to another,” they consider the rights of women and doctors, but do not mention the rights of unborn children. On Christmas Eve this may deserve some contemplation.

Do EU experts wish each other a Merry Christmas?

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21 posted on 12/28/2005 6:01:13 AM PST by NYer ("Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: xtargeter

1984-speak: "Every year one in three pregnancies worldwide ends in an abortion."

Reality: "Every year one of every three babies worldwide are aborted."


22 posted on 12/28/2005 7:11:27 AM PST by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: spkpls4

The assault on religious freedom in Europe continues!


23 posted on 12/28/2005 7:52:44 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Adiemus

Good idea!


24 posted on 12/28/2005 8:49:21 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Starwolf

http://www.123helpme.com/view.asp?id=10532

Women's Injury Network. Any physician can perform an abortion according to this site.


25 posted on 12/28/2005 9:44:06 AM PST by Frank Sheed ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." ~GK Chesterton.)
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To: NYer
European Union advisory panel has issued a statement saying that medical professionals are not allowed to refuse to participate in abortions. According to the EU Network of Independent Experts on Fundamental Rights doctors should be forced to perform abortions, even if they have conscientious objections, because the right to abort a child is an “international human right.”

Utterly ridiculous, absurd, grotesque, disgusting, totally barbaric. They seem to be just making stuff up as if they were in a campy B science fiction/horror movie.

26 posted on 12/28/2005 10:02:47 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Starwolf

Mayor Bloomberg saved abortion. He made it mandatory for medical students to take abortion ib all NYC hospitals. 1 in every 7 doctors in the U.S. is educated in NYC and those schools are very influential. Schools around the country have followed suit. I believe California is included in that. There usually isn't an opt out for coscientious objectors.


27 posted on 12/28/2005 10:06:20 AM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: atomic conspiracy

How far are WE of today willing to go in resisting this monstrous evil?


28 posted on 12/29/2005 8:44:48 PM PST by victim soul
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To: Frank Sheed
Any physician can perform an abortion...

This one can't.

29 posted on 12/29/2005 8:50:42 PM PST by Peelod (Decentia est fragilis. Curatoribus validis indiget.)
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To: spkpls4

I wonder if any of those doctors are questioning whether post-natal abortions are possible in certain situations?


30 posted on 12/29/2005 8:53:22 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Peelod

May God bless you! I wish more would refuse!

F


31 posted on 12/30/2005 8:48:47 AM PST by Frank Sheed ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." ~GK Chesterton.)
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To: Last Dakotan

Thou-Shalt-Not-Kill Ping


32 posted on 12/30/2005 8:55:43 AM PST by HolgerDansk ("Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he worked the bolt.)
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