Posted on 12/26/2005 6:38:49 AM PST by Abathar
Blacks should be outraged by attempts to stamp out Christianity from Christmas celebrations while accepting Kwanzaa as mainstream, says a black minister.
Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, founder and president of BOND, Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny, and author of WND Books' "Scam," notes that while public school administrators and city officials attempt to ban nativity scenes, Christmas carols, candy canes and even Christmas trees from public places, Kwanzaa has been accepted as mainstream.
While commonly viewed as an "African" holiday, observed from Dec. 26 to Jan. 1, Kwanzaa actually was created in the U.S. in 1966 by Dr. Maulana "Ron" Karenga, the head of a violent black-power group, United Slaves Organization, which was a rival to the Black Panthers.
In the 1970s, Karenga served four years in prison for conspiracy and assault in the torture of two female followers. Karenga was convicted of whipping them with electrical cords and beating them with a karate baton after stripping them naked. He placed in the mouth of one of the victims a hot soldering iron, also scarring her face with the device. He put one of her big toes in a vise, and detergent and running water in both of their mouths.
In a 1978 interview quoted in the Washington Post, Karenga said, "People think it's African, but it's not. I came up with Kwanzaa because black people in this country wouldn't celebrate it if they knew it was American. Also, I put it around Christmas because I knew that's when a lot of bloods (blacks) would be partying."
Peterson points out Kwanzaa is taught in public schools, recognized by corporations and was saluted in a proclamation by President Bush in 2002.
"If black Christians don't stand up for Christmas and reject Kwanzaa, they are allowing evil to have its way," Peterson said. "They will regret using a fake holiday to stamp out the true meaning of Christmas."
In May of 1971 Karenga stood trial for torturing two dissident members of his cult. Both Deborah Jones and Gail Davis described how Karenga had demanded that they strip naked. The naked women were then whipped with electrical cords and beaten with a karate baton. Detergent and a gushing hose were forced into their mouths. Ms Jones had one of her toes clamped in a vise. Karenga’s goon squad forced a hot electrical soldering iron in to Ms Davis’ mouth as a form of revolutionary discipline. The torturefest went on for two long days. Karenga was convicted and served more than three years in a California State prison. The New York Times did not see any of these lurid and insightful facts as part of “all the news that’s fit to print,” even though it was all new news in 1971.
When Karenga declared that he was a convert to Marxism, those who knew him took it as a sign that he had mellowed. His violent past and muddled thinking were, apparently, job enhancements in the California university system. Karenga is now a professor at California State University in Long Beach. " Read more here
Funny how my kids were not told this in the Public School System, I wish more attention would be given to the true history of this event.
Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson bump!
Kwanzaa - Torture Black Women Day?
Nope, they get a whole week to do it I guess.
I get the sense that Kwanzaa is losing steam.
Amen! Call it what it is! Kwanzaa doesn't have any more credibility than Festivus. (Apologies to any fervent devotees of Festivus.)
Doesn't matter, as long as it's a black specialty standing apart from white activities. The leftist lies that so many blacks have swallowed over the last five decades astounds me.
We don't allow our daughter to complete any assignments in school that teach anything about Kwanza. Last year (in 1st grade) she was assigned several worksheets on Kwanza as homework and we sent a note in that she would not be completing them - the teacher never said a word and did not mark her down.
This year it was hardly mentioned but neither was Christmas or Hanukka, but the Chinese New Year was the theme for their "Holiday Party." We thought it would be really lame, but one of her classmates's grandparents owned a Chinese restaurant in New York for 30 years and they made all the food (which was delicious) and incorporated a Christmas theme with the decorations, etc. It turned out very nice.
We all need to do what we can to protect Christmas.Eventhough many Christians used to complain that Christmas was too comercial.Christmas is the one holiday(more so than easter) that the country focuses on Jesus.I always say, if you don't believe in Christ, celebrate Santa or frosty the snow man. But don't try to take my Christmas away.WE have decided to keep it!
Black ministers will have to lead the way in returning Christ(mas) to the nation,since too many blacks automatically distrust whites who try to expose this Kwanzaa as the fake it is.
Correct, and to burst the kwanzaa bubble we should insist on equal footing for festivus-
if scools put up kwanzaa posters insist on festivus. if stores display kwanzaa insist on festivus - that will either dilute the bs kwanzaa or expose it for what it is.
Now do you say Happy Kwanzaa before... you put the soldering iron to her... or wait till after you flush her mouth with detergent?
It never had any "steam", actually. The media morons and the nation's educrats fawn over it (for reasons only they understand), but have you ever actually known anyone to "celebrate" this dreck?
There's the United Negro College Fund -- Imagine the United Caucasion College Fund.
There is a Miss Black America contest -- ever hear of a Miss White America contest?
Some do, but I've seen more PC "acceptance" of Kwanzaa in the media than anything genuine, but I wouldn't know very well.
I didn't give any reasons for not doing the Kwanza assignments in my note to the teacher last year, but was prepared with plenty of information if there was problem.
Our schools say the pledge every morning - but no grace before lunch. The 2nd grade teacher seems reluctant to celebrate ANYTHING, so she is equally dismissive of all holidays.
I went to dinner to a local Chinese restaurant with my nephew and his wife last Saturday. The restaurant was festively decorated for Christmas and as we were leaving the owner wished us a “Merry Christmas”. Back at the car we all commented how nice it was to hear that since the most you get at most stores and restaurants is the ubiquitous “Happy Holidays” and even more prevalent the old “Have A Nice Day.
I told my nephew it wasn’t all that unusual since not all but many Asians in this country are Christians and are here because of the persecution of that faith in their homelands. The people who appreciate religious and political freedom the most are those who had none and came here to find it. It’s rather ironic that so many who have been here for so long don’t appreciate what that really means.
Are you sheetin' me? This is sick evil stuff here.
Kwanzaa is bogus, a disingenuous bit of nonsense that should fool no one. Send the real story about the charlatan who concocted this to every one you know especially to your children's teachers!
That picture would be funny if it hadn't happened for real to those women.
Don't you just love how we've been brainwashed to think that Christmas ends at 9:00 pm on the 25th? If I remember correctly, the holiday used to last for 12 days, ending on the 6th of January.
But for a celebration that's nearly as old as I am, I don't recall Kwanzaa ever being mentioned in the 70's or 80's. If this alleged celebration truly is this old, when did it make its mainstream appearance in our culture; i.e., when did Hallmark first start making greeting cards, or the USPS start making stamps? Anyone know?
This question is merely out of curiosity.
I found it interesting that all of the Chinese restaurants in my area were open for business on Christmas...
I ate lunch at one of these on Christmas Eve...The young Chinese waitress who waited on us couldn't speak any English other than a couple of short phrases...
She did however, manage to say Merry Christmas when we finished eating...I left a larger tip than usual for the girl's (restaurant's) un-pc stance...
Kwanzaa is just another tool of the Socialist/Communist/Marxist in this country. They destroyed the 'family', now they will get rid of anything that is Christian.
I always wondered the same. I've only heard of Kwanzaa in the past few years. I'd be willing to bet that blacks recently discovered Kwanzaa also.
I'd like to know how this suddenly became marketed and exactly who were the marketers?
Ralphie, is that you??
Tookie probably wished he'd invented a religion instead of ghost-writing some chilluns books.
He's truly a voice of reason, crying out from the wilderness.
Never in our wildest dreams did we think anyone would ever take Kwanza seriously. It's truly so ludicrous that I despair of the American people when I see it still around. Wait 'til next year when it has its 40th anniversary. Actually, perhaps that would be the best way to kill it -- to emphasize its origins!
It's still Christmas in my house.
Could be very telling.
I'm not sure to what extent blacks have "discovered" Kwanzaa, to be honest. Seems like they always round up a few of them to show on news stories, attending Kwanzaa activities, but I think that most see right through the charade. The celebration is a hoax, and has no parallel in their African culture.
"...and was saluted in a proclamation by President Bush in 2002."
I remember that distinctly. When I heard it, I nearly fell out of my chair. All I could do was shake my head in disbelief and shock.
Ah, yes, Kwanzaa...which I'm convinced is from the Swahili for "let's see if we can make black folks overspend as much on the holidays as other folks do".
Actually, the bright lights in nearby Amherst, NH celebrate Kwanza when the town 'winter' tree is lit. The town has less than the state average of black residents.
What can you expect from a town that recently (this last spring) outlawed geese walking around? It's no wonder the state is going 'blue'.
When my daughter was in kindergarten, I confronted her teacher with all this information I had researched after my daughter came home with these worksheets. The teacher didn't respond...she just stared blankly at me.
Blank stares and lack of response from teachers and school administrators, I have learned, will tell you that you have caught them on something they are unwilling to admit to.
I have asked and asked here on FR, and no one has responded.
Does anyone here know the answer??
While Kwanzaa was started in 1966, was it not BJC that made it an official type holiday and promoted it from the oval office???? I did not have children in school before his presidency, and had NEVER heard of it before 1997.
MLK would roll over in his grave if he could see what has happened to his 'dream!'
It amazes me that decent, hard-working, God-fearing black people would follow a gang leader who was convicted of torturing two 'followers!'
Wouldn't it be better to celebrate MLK day?
As a disclaimer, I am not black and maybe I am judging this Kwanza thing by looking through the window BUT I have lived through all of these decades where the inequality that existed for blacks mostly in the south, was spread evenly across this nation. And, IMHO, I don't think that Jack, or brother Bobby, or Lyndon, or Ron Karenga, because of their actions and policies, would be a friend of mine, if I was black, knowing what they have done to my race...
Mind if I ask where this BSU was. I see you are in Calif. If not Berkely, maybe they were encouraged by some folks from there.
Yep, I have gotten those stares myself a few times, the "Hand In The Cookie Jar Stare" is the best way to describe it.
This started before Bush, back in the 90s. He just has not stood up against it, which disappoints me.
December 1997 was when I became aware of the "attempted indoctrination" of my child and it was a public school doing the dirty work.
I never personally met anyone who celebrated Kwanzaa. And I met a whole bunch of people. That's the first indication to me that it's a hoax.
I can remember thinking that the Disney movie Aladin was trying to make us extra sensitive to people of middle eastern descent. How ironic is that in retrospect? I have recognized Disney as the propogandist it is for most of my kid's life.
I have to bring up the movie "A Christmas Story" where the family goes to a Chinese Restaurant on Christmas Day after their turkey is eaten by their neighbor's dogs. It is set in the 1940's but I guess things have not changed - Chinese Restaurants are still open on Christmas Day!
Our local Chinese Restaurant is always full all day on Christmas.
And I must agree - those that have lived through oppression, whether it be religious or political, appreciate their freedoms!
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