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The New York Times' Christmas Gift(Michael Barone nails the NYT...again!)
Real Clear Politics ^ | December 26, 2005 | Michael Barone

Posted on 12/26/2005 8:29:41 AM PST by kellynla

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To: Shocked2

Great scenario!! I wish.....


21 posted on 12/26/2005 9:32:06 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: kellynla

In other news, the failed Media's current Job Approval rating has sank to 38% while President Bush's is now over 50% for the 1st time since July. Critics point out that the Failed Media is now a lame duck for the last 3 years of President Bush's Presidency. Media insiders are desperate for a strategy to restore the Dinosaur Media's crashing credibility with the American people. The atmosphere of out right panic at such Failed Media Icons as the New York DNC Times is palatable. One high ranking NY Time staffer, speaking on conditions of anonymity said "It's all gone. Next stop Bankruptcy. There no way to stop the rot".


22 posted on 12/26/2005 9:38:22 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: Shocked2

I like your theory.


23 posted on 12/26/2005 9:41:45 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: kellynla

they'll drag him out and it'll be the same one guy who's
library book choices were looked into and the same one guy who has actually seen ANWR in person.


24 posted on 12/26/2005 9:42:35 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: Cap Huff

See post 19..


25 posted on 12/26/2005 9:42:59 AM PST by Dog ( ABMcM(Anybody but McCain....except Bill Frist))
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To: Darth Reagan

ping


26 posted on 12/26/2005 9:44:30 AM PST by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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To: aligncare
When the story first broke, I had concerns. Having taken the time to read and think about it, however, it appears to be much ado about very little, if anything.

American citizens are subject to warrantless searches all the time. Airport TSA searches, questioning and detaining at border points of entry, random DUI roadblocks. These all constitute a warrantless search on behalf of the executive branch, and occur daily without report from the press.

I believe the most relevant comparison is that of the citizen re-entering the country from abroad, because the eavesdropping took place during phone calls originating outside our borders.

Imagine the outrage if another big attack occurred and it was made known that the administration had the ability to listen in on international calls made to known terror suspects but did nothing. And the outrage would be justified.

27 posted on 12/26/2005 9:53:54 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: Mr. Bird
Right, and your comment also applies to the non-story story that - Oh, my gosh! - the government is violating rights, as they sniff the air around DC for traces of radioactivity, a hint that there may be a nuclear threat.

Everybody, you'd better hide your plutonium...
28 posted on 12/26/2005 10:21:07 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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To: jimbo123
The NYT thinks "we, the citizens" are frankly....simple or plain stupid....

The truth is in their value trend.... What person in his right mind would invest in such a consistent loser...... Which begs the followup question, "Who purchases this drivel?"


29 posted on 12/26/2005 10:28:36 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: steelcurtain
This is why this crusade will be yet another exercise in futility in the media's ongoing war against Bush.

The media has been on a jihad against Bush, for sure. Unfortunately, the NYT's crusade against legal surveillance has alerted terrorists' awareness of the tools that are used against them and as a result seriously diminished our capacity to thwart terrorist schemes.

30 posted on 12/26/2005 10:32:31 AM PST by Starboard
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To: kellynla

Fact check regarding claims that Clinton and Carter authorized warantless surveillance:

what Drudge says: Clinton, February 9, 1995: "The Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order"

What Clinton actually signed:

Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) [50 U.S.C. 1822(a)] of the [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance] Act, the Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order, to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year, if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that section.


What Drudge says:

Jimmy Carter Signed Executive Order on May 23, 1979: "Attorney General is authorized to approve electronic surveillance to acquire foreign intelligence information without a court order."

What Carter's executive order actually says:

1-101. Pursuant to Section 102(a)(1) of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1802(a)), the Attorney General is authorized to approve electronic surveillance to acquire foreign intelligence information without a court order, but only if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that Section.


31 posted on 12/26/2005 10:34:51 AM PST by purple haze
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To: Shocked2
Very interesting theory.

Another explanation for his resignation might be that he was a Clinton appointee, and wanted to stir up false concerns about the 'fascist' Bush administration...And had a better job waiting with a private law firm...for way more money.

Kills two birds with one stone.
32 posted on 12/26/2005 10:36:34 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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To: kellynla

bump


33 posted on 12/26/2005 10:40:50 AM PST by VOA
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To: purple haze

Are you saying there is a conflict between what Drudge reported, and the law as it reads in the excerpt you gave?

They sound the same to me.

'Administrative warrants' allowed by law, so what's the problem?...


34 posted on 12/26/2005 10:43:42 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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To: Starboard
But remember, they have the patriotic duty to undermine our safety and security...
35 posted on 12/26/2005 10:45:47 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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To: jimbo123
The NY Times' Christmas present to their shareholders and pensioners:

Love it... Thanks for the after Christmas present! Makes my day to see the Slimes, their shareholders & pensioners losing their commie @sses.

36 posted on 12/26/2005 10:47:12 AM PST by demkicker
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To: MNJohnnie
I like your spunk, MNJohnnie! Tell it like it is.
37 posted on 12/26/2005 10:56:23 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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To: demkicker

It's true. We are winning. I plan on remaining confident that our ideas are superior. Dislodging the media elites from their perches will require just a bit more time.


38 posted on 12/26/2005 11:02:58 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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To: purple haze; kellynla
For your information PH.

AG Gonzales made the appropriate Certifications as both the DNC paymasters, and the Dinosaur Media stooges, know. I know it really bugs the usual suspects, but they have NOTHING here. Object to the law? Lobby to change it. DO NOT lie to the American people about it "being broken".

Once again the Democrat Party shows it is absolutely unworried by any consequences of their actions and is more then willing to crawl back into power over the bodies of dead Americans. They will have to relearn the lessons of 2002 and 2004 all over again in 2006. Hard to decide who is more stuck on stupid. The American "Journalists" with their 30-38% JA number or the Democrat Party Leadership.

39 posted on 12/26/2005 11:08:42 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: MNJohnnie
EXACTLY - Lets have the dialogue. Perhaps the Supremes may want to clarify a few things, but the administration is functioning on both judicial and historical precedent.

It is simply mind boggling.

For anyone to think the Bush administration is in any trouble over this is simply laughable. I had 2 or 3 real life lib friends telling me last week how this was going to be the one to destroy Bush.

The beauty of it all is, every time they do this, it becomes more clear to more people that they are just crying wolf. Most folks don't even listen to them anymore.

40 posted on 12/26/2005 11:15:06 AM PST by NeonKnight (Republican Death Machine)
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