Posted on 12/27/2005 7:17:53 AM PST by B Knotts
Imagine yourself as one of these super cleared attorneys who can actually SEE the charge. OK you say the accused American stole such and such a document from such and such a location at such and such a time. Oh, I can't ask him if he has a time or place alibi for that? That would reveal a national secret?
I agree. Why investigate the operation but not the leak of top secret information?
Something just ain't right here.
The Constitution as engineered ultimately is what the Court says. Put in a Bork amendment (Congress can overrule any court with a supermajority) if you want a counterbalance. Till then, it's the Nine Lawyers Rule.
If the accused's attorney cannot mount a challenge to any fact claimed by the Government because any attempted investigation into their truth or falsity would reveal the details of the charges, well we have Kafka alive and well.
These are Justice Department reports to Congress and would be unclassified. None of this would include actual intelligence, probably just numbers ... "This is how many times we went before FISA, this is how many times FISA modified/denied/approved requests."
I believe this information would be an open record and is not secret intelligence.
My point exactly (although I'm only kidding. It suits me fine if every thread is about illegal immigration).
The fact that the 9-11 commission SELECTIVELY EXCLUDED Able Danger data along with promoting Clark's book at the hearings is telling.
The fact that Joe Wilson has more or less disappeared, that Valerie Plame has resigned and Fitzgerald is silent is telling.
The fact that we didn't EVEN KNOW about the Berger burglaries until it was leaked almost a year later is telling. The fact that Berger and Wilson were "fired" by Kerry withing days of each other is VERY TELLING.
The fact that this (Clinton loving) judge resigned from the FISA in silence is telling.
Not for nothing, but these folks are all Dem Operatives. Since all Positive Dem Results flow to one person, HILLARY, I bet she and Bubba can be connected to starting each of these FRAUDS.
One of the OUTSTANDING facts is that Matt Cooper, the reporter who "involved" Rove and Libby, is married to Mandy Grunwald who is Hillary's best friend, media advisor and Bubba's former CAMPAIGN MANAGER.
The second outstanding fact is a statement by Bubba saying that if they could get rid of Rove, they could win back the Whitehouse.
As far as I can see, Hillary has said nothing about all these FRAUDS. It's very telling.
Yeah, what a brilliant plan. Let's leak lies to the media and get the moonbats riled up and shrieking, impeachment! Then, we can send out Republicans from the House and Senate to correct the record and the media will look stupid.
Or not.
The FISA ruled against the ACLU in favor of the Bush administration. This article is bunk.
The FISA court is set up on the simple ability to intercept communications. All the modern tech has done is change the means of the communications, but the basic idea hasn't changed -- an expedited means of authorization for interception with relaxed standards.
In the practical desire to have Bush be able to circumvent FISA, people forget that FISA exists solely because of previous abuses of the executive's ability to intercept communications without judicial oversight. Anyone who thinks this ability regained will not be abused needs to do a bit of history reading, mainly operations Shamrock, Minaret, CHAOS and COINTELPRO.
"They wanted to expand the number of people they were eavesdropping on, and they didn't think they could get the warrants they needed from the court to monitor those people," said Bamford, author of "Body of Secrets: Anatomy of the Ultra-Secret National Security Agency" and "The Puzzle Palace: Inside America's Most Secret Intelligence Organization." "The FISA court has shown its displeasure by tinkering with these applications by the Bush administration."
Much to many folks dismay it now appears TREASON is no longer a crime. The gray old lady and WaPo have proved that. The MSM has a right, even an obligation, to keep the American public "Informed" of all secrets the US Government has hidden away. Apparently we need our enemies to meet us on a level playing field according to the MSM and the DEMONRATS.
e-mailing or calling the white house get's tapped/eves dropped and all mail is delayed do to the so called Anthrax problem's that Congress complained about. They do not want to hear from us. But I agree we should still try and be presistant!!!!
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