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Stocks Stumble As Yield Curve Inverts
Associated Press ^ | 27 December 2005 | Ellen Simon

Posted on 12/27/2005 10:47:43 AM PST by rhombus

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To: rhombus

Earth to Krugman this condition was crossed many months ago...


41 posted on 12/27/2005 11:33:03 AM PST by databoss
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To: rhombus

The Friggin Fed should have stopped raising short rates 6 months ago.


43 posted on 12/27/2005 11:33:30 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Safetgiver

Yeah, right before it crashes. No way in the world the Dow will rise 35% in one year unless the dollar crashes or inflation runs rampant.


44 posted on 12/27/2005 11:34:36 AM PST by 308MBR (Not only older, but bolder. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.)
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To: quakeroats

We disagree. End of story.


45 posted on 12/27/2005 11:34:59 AM PST by DManA
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To: montag813
The Fed has already tightened 3-4 too many times

Yes, just as they did the last time they raised rates.

46 posted on 12/27/2005 11:35:18 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: xrp

Barring another 9/11, things should be quite good in 2006. The concerns about short term interest rates being higher than long term rates is bogus, and ignores the rest of our financial picture. We had an inverted yield curve (and a somewhat similar good economic position) prior to the long bull run of the Reagan-Clinton years. Inflation is tame, I'm pretty happy about where the dollar is, stocks are undervalued and CEO's are under-forcasting their projections...which are still pretty good.


47 posted on 12/27/2005 11:38:36 AM PST by jdsteel (I need a new tag line!!!)
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To: 2banana
ECON101!!

Why can't the RATS figure this out? It's all doom and gloom with these morons. Krugman will probably come out of the woodwork and yell 'WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!! ABANDON SHIP!!!' What rubbish.

In theory, inverted Yield Curves are a signal pure and simple to move from one asset class (stocks)to another (bonds-long term ones)

As per the Kiplinger letter: 'An inverted curve occurs when short-term rates are greater than long-term rates, and is characteristic of investors' positive expectations of the economy. If investors believe that inflation and long-term rates will drop in the future, they would be eager to invest in long-term bonds now or "lock in" high yields while rates are low. Inverted curves may occur as the Fed raises short-term interest rates, and are always followed by economic slowdown. In fact, analysts have viewed inverted yield curves before each of the last five recessions in the U.S.'

A more indepth analysis is offered by Cantor Fitzgerald that may shed some smart thinking and real life economic variables as opposed to the doom & gloom scenarios offered by the RATS:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/07/08/markets/bondcenter/inverted_yield/

48 posted on 12/27/2005 11:39:29 AM PST by bubman
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To: 1Old Pro
The Friggin Fed should have stopped raising short rates 6 months ago.

That's what you get with a central bank setting prices. The Marxists would be proud.

49 posted on 12/27/2005 11:39:45 AM PST by Protagoras (If jumping to conclusions was an Olympic event, FR would be the training facility.)
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To: xrp
For market/DJIA/Wall Street savvy Freepers, what is the consensus on the outlook for 2006?

The market will continue to go up and down, and do whatever its going to do. The key is not to try to predict, but rather to react without overeacting. If you are in the market for the long haul, then continue to dollar cost average into a well diversified porfolio consisting of no-load, low expense mutual funds while waiting for more favorable buying oppurtunities, which I would define as 1190 for the S & P 500 Index or around 9900 for the Dow. Also, do not buy gold as an investment for any reason, and stay away from real estate and REITS at current prices.

50 posted on 12/27/2005 11:41:19 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: jdsteel

I agree with your assessment. I remember that the yield curve was inverted in 1998; GPD growth didn't slow until about 4 or 5 years after that.


52 posted on 12/27/2005 11:42:43 AM PST by hispanichoosier
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To: quakeroats

I've found you can't discuss these issues with fanatics.


53 posted on 12/27/2005 11:44:58 AM PST by DManA
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To: rhombus

Is this surprising? OF COURSE short term rates are higher than long term rates right now. Long term rates are set by the market. Short term rates are set by the Fed. Greenspan has been raising short term rates for over a year trying to burst the housing market the way he did the stock market in 2000. It hasn't worked. The market is telling the Fed to stop raising interest rates! It isn't a harbinger of recesssion if the Fed will just listen to the market and get the hell out of its way.


54 posted on 12/27/2005 11:45:58 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (The Kerry/Lehane/Wilson/Grunwald/Cooper plot to destroy Karl Rove has failed!)
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To: 308MBR

Don't tell me. Tell Fred Sherman, Ben Stein and the other economic pundits.


55 posted on 12/27/2005 11:46:38 AM PST by Safetgiver (Noone spoke when the levee done broke, Blanco cried and Nagin lied.)
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To: 308MBR
No way in the world the Dow will rise 35% in one year unless the dollar crashes or inflation runs rampant.

I'm not sure if it ever has or not, but why on earth anyone would expect large percentage moves in thirty of the biggest most cumbersome companies in America in this environment is beyond me .

57 posted on 12/27/2005 11:49:16 AM PST by Protagoras (If jumping to conclusions was an Olympic event, FR would be the training facility.)
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To: rhombus
We're all gonna die!!!!


58 posted on 12/27/2005 11:50:24 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Over it is not, until over it is." -- Yoda Berra)
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To: databoss; rhombus
I expect Paul Krugman will be weighing in telling us we are all doomed because of tax cuts.

Krugman is a total economic idiot. He really has NO idea what he is talking about. Every prediction he makes is wrong and you are right, Krugman blames every imagined economic problem on Bush tax cuts.

59 posted on 12/27/2005 11:53:02 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: quakeroats

Ending a post with "End of Story" is as good a predictor of a fanatic as gold is a bad inflation predictor.


60 posted on 12/27/2005 11:53:19 AM PST by DManA
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