Posted on 12/27/2005 4:51:43 PM PST by qam1
I hate to quibble, but 14 generations from 1776 put us at about the year 2050.
Member of the Generation!!
Senior in HS. Born in Reagan's ending years... 1987 baby
Not SINCE the Independence, They count the 3 generations that were alive at the time as #1, #2 and #3
1)Awakening 1701-1723 (Benjamin Franklin 1706)
2)Liberty 1724-1741 (George Washington 1732)
3)Republican 1742-1766 (Thomas Jefferson 1743)
4)Compromise 1767-1791
5)Transcendental 1792-1821
6)Gilded 1822-1842
7)Progressive 1843-1859
8)Missionary 1860-1882
9)Lost 1883-1904
10) WWII 1905-1927
11) Silent 1928-1945
12) Baby Boomers 1946-1964
13) Generation X 1965-1981
14) Generation Y 1982-1996
15) Generation Z 1997+
They must calculate generations in very speedy intervals.
Actually it looks like Generations are speeding up their intervals. For instance the Transcendental generation (#5) birth years were 29 years long.
I don't think it's up to you to dictate what tired old cliches I use! :)
susie
Let's not pat ourselves on the back too much regarding what wonderful parents we are- one third of all babies are born out of wedlock, and that is largely from Gen Xers and older Gen Yers. Divorce and abortion rates may have started to level off and decline in our generation, but our ancestors would still be shocked at the sexual immorality that we take for granted.
LOL. I guess what's good for the goose is a horse of a different color walking a mile in your shoes.
Which 'moral' ancestors? The ones who originated common-law marriage? The ones who practiced 'free love' in the 20s and 60s? 8^)
No, I agree that returing to a perception of immorality to shame parents against raising bastard kids is important, that a stable marriage providing good role models for both boys and girls is important, and a legal marriage is usually the most stable you can get, but I don't think it's the first problem with Gen X parents that should be tackled. It certainly doesn't have a huge effect why I'm happy about Gen X parenting when viewed comparably with Boomers, though I'd be interested to see how the divorce rates compare between Gen X and Boomers when it comes to divorce rates with and without kids.
That first problem? Making it easier for one parent to parent full time by lowering taxes back to pre WWII levels, and cutting government back to constitutional levels so people can go about their business without paying for a lawyer every day of their lives.
Hey, I like that one, I think I'll steal it!! LOL
susie
Take it easy on the guy.
As a Boomer, OBVIOUSLY he thinks the entire schtick is about himself.
Beyond that...I don't see anywhere the bashing wasn't deserved. There is the whiny little bit about a generalization not applying universally at the individual level that Boombers (and liberals) like to drag out. Otherwise...let the bashing continue until the sons of bitches support Social Security Reform and legal options to opt off the rolls.
Why would you suggest that the author has "issues" because of an interest in Numerology. (I thought, to be saved in Christianity, one only had to profess a belief that Christ was one's Savior.) Christianity is full of numerology. Only one who is unfamiliar with the Bible would condemn someone for displaying an interest in it.
Christianity actually has a rich heritage of symbolic numerology: seven days in a week, seven trumpets, the seven angels, the seven candlesticks in Revelation. Twelve tribes, twelve apostles, twelve gates in the holy city New Jerusalem. The 144,000 saints on mount Zion. Then there's the reference to "time, times, and half a time" which is also referred to as a period of 1,260 days and a significant 42 month period when Jerusalem would be under Gentile dominance. Then of course, there's the whole 666 thing.
The reference to the significance of the 14 generations probably stems from Matthew chapter 1, verse 17:
"So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations."
Aside from the youthful hubris of the original article, I found the author's comments hopeful. Youth, in general, benefit from a sense of purposefulness and mission. If this "Fourteenth Generation" lives up to high expectations, they'll do well.
LOL, obviously.
You're an antagonist. LOL!
Take it easy on the guy?
I did.
I wasn't completely satisfied to leave it at that...but I did. I was behaving, trying to be polite, in the face utter rudeness.
That's all going to fly out the window now. I'd love to oblige, really I would, but first and foremost I just could not yield to the temptation to let #11 go.
Nor could I yield to the temptation to let go a smackdown of Boomers and this "Fourteenth Generation". Generalizations drive me nuts.
There are plenty of fellow Boomers and GenXers who stood with me on the Parade Grounds at Parris Island last year watching what was referred to in the article as the "Fourteenth Generation" earn the title as their 'kids' volunteered to protect each freaken generation. Imagine.
With all due respect, the social security, etc., issues don't really matter a rat's ass if SOMEBODY isn't the appointed guardians of 'liberty's century'...if SOMEBODY isn't somewhere in the nation’s wings, ready to act. And who is it? The "Fourteenth Generation".
The little squirt (the author Zeiger) wrote:
"America is unique in the world. We can view that uniqueness as a product of ourselves alone, or of something higher, something that in turn gives us meaning. To choose the second vantage would mean revival to a dying civilization. Such a revolution of intellect, morality, culture, and spirit would be the reversal of the prior revolution that even now attributes its aging breaths to retiring Baby Boomers on college campuses, in the old media, in liberal churches, in public high schools. Slow fades the flicker on the marijuana joint..."
Zeigler's correct (as generalizations go)- many in my generation (Boomers) and other WERE and are responsible for the silent majority, and more. Many brought ill upon the US. Providentially speaking, we have an opportunity to right a wrong in that regard. The most fascinating aspect of the piece to me is that many of the 'late Boomers' (young boomers/late parents) and GenX bore and raised this Fourteenth Generation. That was too obvious, though. It is quite telling that rather than lift up our youth, in the face of an opportunity to bash others-someone had to grab a club.
The callous disregard for this new generation- taking away from them in what I see as purely selfish terms and losing the concept of a hugely thought provoking discussion to blow one's own horn while looking in the mirror and trumpeting the wonders of one's own generation just pissed me off. MEMEMEMEME. I watched in horror those I lived with in my generation, heaped shit on this country and I watch this new generation as they shovel it off, leave their families, bury their peers, and comfort Boomers and GenXers.
Last I knew, we were all in this together. The rest of us, like the best of the "Fourteenth Generation", should act like it.
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