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AMERICAN MOVIEGOERS WILL REJECT THE GAY GOLDEN GLOBES, CHRISTIAN MEDIA PUNDIT OPINES
Movieguide.org ^ | Dec 16, 2005

Posted on 12/28/2005 8:28:19 AM PST by Zender500

Dr. Ted Baehr, founder of the Christian Film & Television Commission™, one of the top advocacy groups in Hollywood, predicts that Americans moviegoers will reject the top movie choices for the 63rd annual Golden Globes Awards.

"They've already rejected three of the five choices for Best Drama," Dr. Baehr said about the Hollywood Foreign Press Association's choices, which include BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN; THE CONSTANT GARDENER; GOOD NIGHT, AND GOOD LUCK; A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE; and MATCH POINT.

"These movies aren't that good," said Dr. Baehr, who noted that the Commission's flagship, MOVIEGUIDE®, at its Annual Faith & Values Awards Gala, has a better track record than the Globes and any other film critic association, when it comes to picking the kind of award-winning movies that Americans really want to see.

He predicted that moviegoers will reject both BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN, an explicit, "boring" movie about two homosexual cowboys punching sheep, and each other, and Woody Allen's new "slow-paced" atheist drama, MATCH POINT, when they open wide next month.

"These kinds of boring, politically correct movies tend to make much less than $10 million at the box office," he said. "This is not even a drop in the bucket when compared to the box office numbers for a movie like THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE, the classic Christian created by C.S. Lewis, which made more than $67 million in three days.

"Do you want your daughter or niece seeing two cowboys sodomize each other?" Dr. Baehr asked, referring to Ang Lee's BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN.

Dr. Baehr said that THE CONSTANT GARDENER is a "left-wing diatribe" and that GOOD NIGHT, AND GOOD LUCK is "a distorted, revisionist picture" of the fight against Communism in the 1950s.

"A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE is just a very odd choice," Dr. Baehr added. "I don't know what to make of the mindset that would pick such a mediocre, unsuccessful movie like this for an award."

Finally, Dr. Baehr said that, while he can see why the HFPA nominated THE PRODUCERS and WALK THE LINE for Best Musical or Comedy, one of their picks, THE SQUID AND THE WHALE, has no music and is a heavy family drama, not a comedy.

"The mostly out of work people who pick the Golden Gropes must be getting senile," he concluded. "Of course, in reality, there are less than 100 members in the HFPA and less than 90 of them can vote. Many of them don't even work in the news media anymore. Furthermore, they only add about two members each year. The whole thing is a sham which the Hollywood studios promote because it helps sell tickets."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: goldenglobes; hollyweird; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; movies; tedbaehr
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1 posted on 12/28/2005 8:28:21 AM PST by Zender500
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To: little jeremiah

HA ping


2 posted on 12/28/2005 8:28:53 AM PST by Zender500
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To: Zender500

I have no intention to watch the Golden Globes or the Oscars this year if Brokeback has any nomintations. Sickening!


3 posted on 12/28/2005 8:31:01 AM PST by Halls (Never forget Terri Schiavo!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Halls

I'm curious: Are there ANY FReepers who have EVER watched the Golden Globes? Why?


4 posted on 12/28/2005 8:32:16 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: presidio9

The what?


5 posted on 12/28/2005 8:35:25 AM PST by MarkeyD (Cowards cut and run. Marines finish the job. I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: MarkeyD

Awards shows are liberalism's new opiate.


6 posted on 12/28/2005 8:37:35 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: Zender500

There's nothing less fun than watching Hollywood elites pat each other on the back for sticking it to mainstream America.


7 posted on 12/28/2005 8:39:08 AM PST by loreldan (Lincoln, Reagan, & G. W. Bush - the cure for Democrat lunacy.)
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To: Halls

I already have a lunch bet with a co-worker that Brokeback will win the Oscar for Best Picture, and the nominations aren't even out yet. I am that sure of Hollywood's agenda.


8 posted on 12/28/2005 8:40:31 AM PST by RabidBartender
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To: Zender500
I think even AMPAS is very concerned about the general public reaction when movies like Brokeback Mountain and Syriana gets Oscar nods, which will turn off the majority of Americans in no time flat.
9 posted on 12/28/2005 8:40:50 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: Zender500
If I placed bets, I'd bet BM is going to be a huge hit. I think every liberal in America will make a pilgrimage to see it, just like they did for Fahrenheit 911.
10 posted on 12/28/2005 8:41:07 AM PST by Varda
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To: Zender500

I don't watch Hollyweird awards shows, I'm not swayed by the awards Hollyweird gives itself and I don't go to movies.

Hollyweird can go Brokeback Mountain itself.


11 posted on 12/28/2005 8:43:53 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Zender500
Oh well, another homo thread.

I might as well insert my Politically Incorrect Elton John joke in here...

Did you hear that Elton John's new blushing bride is worried about contracting botulism?
He heard that you can get it from old meat in a can.

<< drum roll & cymbal crash >>

12 posted on 12/28/2005 8:44:06 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Zender500

I will never go to see broken-backside mountain now matter how many Oscars or Nobel Peace Prizes it wins.


13 posted on 12/28/2005 8:46:05 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Zender500
These awards are meaningless. They reflect the opinions of no one. The public votes on movies every matinee, when they spend their hard-earned money and 2 1/2 hours of their busy lives sitting in a dark room with a bunch of strangers eating popcorn.

Hype doesn't work. Elitism doesn't work. Word of mouth works. People see movies other people recommend, not movies Hollywood declares "must-see." I would go so far as to say that Hollywood's endorsement is a kiss of death at the box office. I know that I'm immediately suspicious of any movie that's nominated for one of these trinket awards.

14 posted on 12/28/2005 8:48:08 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Varda
Brokeback Mountain will be a US$100 million hit, but only for the curiousity factor. Even Michael Medved--who intensely disliked the subject matter of the film--said this movie had excellent acting performances (especially Heath Ledger, who will definitely get nominated for possibly a Best Actor Oscar) and flat-out superb cinematography.
15 posted on 12/28/2005 8:49:06 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: Zender500

I haven't cared for YEARS about who gets what award in Hollywood. Vote with your wallet. Don't see their movies.


16 posted on 12/28/2005 8:49:25 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: loreldan

There's nothing more pathetic than watching
Hollywood elites pat each other on their
VD covered butts for sticking it to "flyover"
America.


"They took the idols and smashed them, the Fairbankses, the Gilberts, the Valentinos! And who've we got now? Some nobodies!


17 posted on 12/28/2005 8:52:50 AM PST by Baby Driver
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To: Zender500
Get ready for this to be the HBO, Showtime, Starz feature presentation for the next 5 years. This will also be made a part of the curriculum in every literature/cinematography college class in the nation.
18 posted on 12/28/2005 8:53:25 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: loreldan

They are still obsessed with getting even for McCarthy's blacklist.


19 posted on 12/28/2005 8:55:14 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: presidio9

Of course there are Freepers that have watched the Golden Globes. I have myself, though not in the latter years.

Why? The entertainment industry was of interest to me at the time. O.D'd on it's excess coupled with increasingly bad films coupled with never ending undisguised Bush bash fest/Christian bash fest/Conservative bash fest killed it and haven't looked back.

I haven't even turned in to watch a couple minutes since prior to the Iraq war and Robbin's "wind" sweeping through the plains comment. TPOTC being blacklisted at the awards shows, except People's Choice obviously, killed these nominations as surely as Arafat and Carter receiving the Nobel peace prize killed that award. They are a joke now.


20 posted on 12/28/2005 9:00:51 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: presidio9
"Are there ANY FReepers who have EVER watched the Golden Globes?"

I never watch any awards shows. There must be a dozen movie/TV/video awards shows and another dozen or so music awards shows.

These self aggrandizing saps aren't satisfied with the millions they make for some of the easiest "work" on the planet, they must also force feed us video of them giving each other awards.
21 posted on 12/28/2005 9:02:16 AM PST by GunnyHartman (Allah is allah outta virgins.)
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To: reagandemo

What? 'The 1st Annual (Everybody-Fully-Outta-Da-Closet)
Flaming Pervscer Awards Ceremony'?


22 posted on 12/28/2005 9:04:50 AM PST by Baby Driver
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To: RayChuang88
Brokeback Mountain will be a US$100 million hit

It made $2mm on its national release this weekend.

23 posted on 12/28/2005 9:04:51 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: RayChuang88

Don't bet anything you can't afford to lose on that prediction.


24 posted on 12/28/2005 9:09:14 AM PST by Baby Driver
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To: Halls

I'll just make it a LOTR Trilogy night with some buddies and beers instead of watching this agitprop for 'progressive' ideals We'll bet on who can last the longest into the night without passing out. Barring that I'll just watch Patton!!


25 posted on 12/28/2005 9:10:40 AM PST by bubman
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To: presidio9
It made $2mm on its national release this weekend.

In fairness, it has opened on 217 screens, compared to 3,000+ for King Kong and Chronicles of Narnia. Will it beat those two when it gets wider play? Not hardly. There aren't enough liberal true believers who'll see it 18 times.

26 posted on 12/28/2005 9:10:45 AM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Baby Driver
I am with Michael Medved on this one. The movie should be chastised just by the fact that it promotes a "if it feels good do it" mentality even if it consists of adultery and leaving families behind. I mean what's important? Personal freedom or family responsibilities? Liberals = what is a family?
27 posted on 12/28/2005 9:11:38 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: Zender500

DO NOT go see Family Stone.

Holliweird tried as hard as they could to throw everything into this movie. A deaf gay man married to a black man, who they adopted a child, with a mother with breast cancer and the sibling sons exchanging lovers and a dad smoking pot with his grown child. We WALKED out!

Disgraceful LIBERAL AGENDA. The movie was full and I am sure in conservative Texas that did not go over well with all who thought there were getting a family type movie.


28 posted on 12/28/2005 9:14:13 AM PST by JFC (W, I am with YA)
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To: presidio9

The only place this piece of defectisexual fantasy
porn, is going to get a big box office draw, is in
"Blue State" Metropoli where the defects collect,
and it's *allready* been there, and done that for
two weeks...and even those "select" theatres have
seen a dramatic dropoff in attendance...Only
those "into that" and hard core lefties, will
go to see this propaganda \for perverion flick...
and from wht i hear, even the hard core leftie men,
and those dragged there by ther "hip" female dates,
are getting up and walking out when the two Sheepokers
start perving on each other...


29 posted on 12/28/2005 9:18:01 AM PST by Baby Driver
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To: rhema
it has opened on 217 screens, compared to 3,000+ for King Kong and Chronicles of Narnia. Will it beat those two when it gets wider play?"""

Is it going to get wider play? If they haven't opened it on more than a couple hundred screens yet, what are they waiting for? I doubt there are that many theater owners who can afford empty seats.

30 posted on 12/28/2005 9:18:11 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

If it were going to open in any more theatres, it would have done so for the Christmas/New Year's weekends. It only needs to make $13mm to break even.


31 posted on 12/28/2005 9:19:38 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: presidio9

My wife and I watch too see the imperfections in those people in BRIGHT sunlight(i.e. without perfect lighting & makeup). Also, half of them are drunk and say the most moronic things.


32 posted on 12/28/2005 9:19:52 AM PST by woodbutcher1963 (Lumber Broker)
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To: Zender500

Hahahahahaha, awards for Backdoor Mountin'? Who cares? Let them have their idiotic award, they still won't get my money.


33 posted on 12/28/2005 9:20:22 AM PST by Romish_Papist (Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.)
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To: presidio9
I'm curious: Are there ANY FReepers who have EVER watched the Golden Globes?

I am with you. Why would normal, conservative, God-fearing people even watch this crap? I have not and will not. I include the Oscars and the rest of Hollywood's back-slapping awards ceremonies in that group also.

I do not think many Oklahoman's will be going to see Brokeback Mountain. That movie is only getting all this hype because of the media.

I am saddened that Heath Ledger played a role in that movie. He is so good-looking and was wonderful in The Patriot with Mel Gibson.

34 posted on 12/28/2005 9:21:20 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Thank you President Bush for Judge Alito!)
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To: presidio9
It only needs to make $13mm to break even."""

That's probably true of some more expensive porn films. This movie sounds like just a slightly more expensive example of that genre. If they make a few million on it, nothing will be proved other than that porn sells to a niche audience - and we already knew that.

35 posted on 12/28/2005 9:21:55 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: RayChuang88

I doubt it. . .I saw somewhere that Broke-butt Mountain opened in something like 200 theaters nationwide, and a week later, numbers are already approaching zero. . . .

You'd think, after Narnia, The Passion of the Christ, and Lord of the Rings, and, heck, even Spiderman. . .that decent movies with family positive values will pack 'em in to the theater week after week. . .and shows like Broke-Butt Mountain. . .well, THEIR target audience is busy packing something else into another place where the sun don't shine. .. .


36 posted on 12/28/2005 9:33:08 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: Zender500
Homo on the Range is how a writer down here in Texas titled it. I think he believes that is a compliment.
37 posted on 12/28/2005 9:33:16 AM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: presidio9

Haven't the ratings gone down the last few years? I won't be watching.


38 posted on 12/28/2005 9:35:57 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Zender500

Thanks - will be a-pinging later today.


39 posted on 12/28/2005 9:38:49 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Zender500

I'm rooting for Squid and The Whale...Although it really wasn't a comedy, per se.


40 posted on 12/28/2005 9:41:26 AM PST by Hildy (Keyboard warrior princess - typing away for truth, justice and the American way!)
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To: Salgak

You know what R-rated movie would make a lot of money for any producer with balls? A war movie like they used to make: One where the Americans are unambiguous good-guys fighting unsympathetic bad guys. To bad Hollywood would never allow it.


41 posted on 12/28/2005 9:43:52 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: Zender500
There's not much watching in Hollywood these days. An old Dukes Of Hazzard fifth episode, "Comrade Duke" was funnier than anything now on either the multiplex or the small tube. We could lampoon the Russians back in the 80s as bad heavies. No one in Tinseltown could portray Al Qaeda terrorists in that kind of light today.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

42 posted on 12/28/2005 9:44:04 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: presidio9

I don't watch awards shows not out of any political sentiment, but mostly because after I passed age 15 or so it was very clear to me how absurd they were. I just find them boring. 'Stars being stars' appeals to the young teen in everyone, but that's about it.


43 posted on 12/28/2005 9:47:25 AM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: RayChuang88

"flat-out superb cinematography"

Ang Lee is famous for that. I read somewhere that he's a bisexual so no surprise he'd use all his skill making something ugly look good.


44 posted on 12/28/2005 9:48:09 AM PST by Varda
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To: Salgak

Unfortunately "Broke-butt Mountain" isn't approaching zero, it's sales increased and it still has one of the highest per theater averages.


45 posted on 12/28/2005 9:51:22 AM PST by Varda
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To: presidio9
I'm curious: Are there ANY FReepers who have EVER watched the Golden Globes? Why?

When I was a young sailor, I used to watch golden globes on the beach as often as possible.

46 posted on 12/28/2005 10:01:14 AM PST by EricT. (Yackity schmackity blah blah blah)
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To: Varda

According to "Box Office Mojo"
Brokeback Mountain (Focus Films)
This Week: #13
Last Week: #8
Weekend Gross: $1,910,310
%Change: -23.8%
Theaters showing this week: 217
Change in # of theaters since last week: +148
Gross per screen: $8,803
Total Gross to date: $6,847,551
Cost to make: $14 million
Weeks in Theater: 3

So. . .despite nearly doubling the amount of theaters it showed in, weekend gross was DOWN nearly 25%, it dropped out of the Top Ten, it still is a money-loser, and only its' gross-per-screen is notable. . .


47 posted on 12/28/2005 10:20:07 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: Varda
it's sales increased and it still has one of the highest per theater averages."""

"Per theater" is the key to your spin. If they showed it in only one theater in the country -- and it happened to be in San Francisco and all the gays packed in -- you could get the very highest "per theater" boxoffice in history. This is a smoke-and-mirrors way to "calculate" its success.

50 posted on 12/28/2005 10:48:38 AM PST by churchillbuff
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