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Rush Limbaugh (NOT) LIVE thread - Wednesday Dec 28th
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Posted on 12/28/2005 8:37:00 AM PST by MNJohnnie

More Freepers doing the Job the Failed Media refuses to do. Free Republic Gold Medal of Merit to Sam Hill for digging this up.

FISA Court Prevented Al Qaeda Taps Before 9/11 N/A

Posted on 12/27/2005 6:32:49 PM PST by Sam Hill

How soon (and conveniently) the media forget.

Behold this passage from the May 2002 issue of the DNC organ, Newsweek:

US District Judge Royce C. Lamberth

WHAT WENT WRONG

The inside story of the missed signals and intelligence failures that raise a chilling question: did September 11 have to happen?

By Michael Hirsh and Michael Isikoff May 27/02

...NEWSWEEK has learned there was one other major complication as America headed into that threat-spiked summer.

In Washington, Royce Lamberth, chief judge of the special federal court [the FISA Court] that reviews national-security wiretaps, erupted in anger when he found that an FBI official was misrepresenting petitions for taps on terror suspects. Lamberth prodded Ashcroft to launch an investigation, which reverberated throughout the bureau.

From the summer of 2000 on into the following year, sources said, the FBI was forced to shut down wiretaps of Qaeda-related suspects connected to the 1998 African embassy bombing investigation.

“It was a major problem,” said one source familiar with the case, who estimated that 10 to 20 Qaeda wiretaps had to be shut down, as well as wiretaps into a separate New York investigation of Hamas.

The effect was to stymie terror surveillance at exactly the moment it was needed most...

And yet elsewhere Judge Lamberth has bizarrely cited the African embassy wiretaps as proof of the importance of his job:

An Interview with Judge Royce C. Lamberth

Judge Royce C. Lamberth, U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, was appointed to the federal bench in 1987. Before joining the Judiciary he was a U.S. Army Captain in the JAG Corps, an assistant U.S. attorney, and Chief of the Department of Justice Civil Division. He recently completed a term as presiding judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

Q: You've called the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court "the least known, but probably most important court in the war on terrorism?" Why?

A: The FISC has nationwide jurisdiction to authorize the United States government to conduct electronic surveillances and physical searches for national security purposes when the target is a foreign power or the individual is acting as the agent of a foreign power. Major international terrorist groups may be targeted by the FBI, CIA, NSA and other intelligence agencies. Since 9-11, invaluable intelligence information has been sought and obtained as a result of warrants and orders issued by this court.

There's no question that every judge who has ever served on this court has thought it was the most significant thing they've ever done as a judge. When I did the hearings on the embassy bombings in Africa, we started the hearings in my living room at 3:00 in the morning. And some of the taps I did that night turned out to be very significant and were used in the New York trials of the people indicted for the bombings.

These wiretaps were so "significant" that Lamberth stopped them and any others like them in the year and a half prior to 9/11 -- just because of a personal snit.

Something to bear in mind when we hear it bewailed how Bush neglected to go to the FISA courts for permission to monitor al Qaeda phone calls.


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1 posted on 12/28/2005 8:37:02 AM PST by MNJohnnie
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To: Sam Hill; indcons; Varmint Al; jan in Colorado; Kerretarded; brivette; 76834; ...
Well earned Well DONE to Freeper Sam Hill for digging up the above story.

Not a Rush Ping again....

2 posted on 12/28/2005 8:38:26 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: MNJohnnie

RL bump


3 posted on 12/28/2005 8:38:27 AM PST by soccer_maniac (Do some good while browsing FR --> Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120))
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To: MNJohnnie
I'd rather hear a "best of" instead of a lukewarm host.
4 posted on 12/28/2005 8:40:31 AM PST by Vision (“We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the duty of intelligent men")
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To: MNJohnnie

Consider the source when reading Lamberth bashing.


5 posted on 12/28/2005 8:45:21 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Wait, lemme get this straight . . . you have a thread on a rerun?

Why not just resurrect the thread from the day the show was originally aired?


6 posted on 12/28/2005 8:46:33 AM PST by Xenalyte (Babies, before we're done here, y'all be wearin' gold-plated diapers.)
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To: OldFriend

Exactly. Lamberth was, if I remember right, one of the most fair and respectable judges involved with the entire set of Clinton scandals, and the left's never forgiven him for not covering for the Stainmeister.

Plus, if the FBI was "misrepresenting" wiretaps, they SHOULD have gotten slapped. The President has the authority to not need the FISC, that I don't dispute, but if the FISC *is* going to be in the loop, the FBI had better come correct.

}:-)4


7 posted on 12/28/2005 8:48:38 AM PST by Moose4 (Liberals and vampires: Both like death, both hate crosses, and both are bloodsuckers.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Thanks for the post.


8 posted on 12/28/2005 8:52:39 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: MNJohnnie

Good Morning,

Back at work today, No Rush Day :^(


9 posted on 12/28/2005 8:53:40 AM PST by angcat
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To: MNJohnnie

Give em' Hell Rush BUMP!!


10 posted on 12/28/2005 8:54:55 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: OldFriend
Ah but that is not the point. It points out the hypocrisy of Newsweak, and the other minions of the DNC Press, on the NSA story. Lamberth a big boy, he can handle the bashing.
11 posted on 12/28/2005 8:55:23 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: MNJohnnie

Hello Johnnie, thanks for the ping.

Is it going to be Bellingham again today?


12 posted on 12/28/2005 8:55:33 AM PST by A.Hun (Democrats suck worse than ice storms.)
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To: Xenalyte

Not a rerun, a guest host.


13 posted on 12/28/2005 8:56:54 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: A.Hun; rightinthemiddle; All
Predictions for 2006 (HUMOR!)

Areafiftyone just posted this. Please all go over to this thread and make your perdictions for 2006. Great fun

14 posted on 12/28/2005 8:58:35 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: MNJohnnie

Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation!


15 posted on 12/28/2005 8:59:19 AM PST by Xenalyte (Babies, before we're done here, y'all be wearin' gold-plated diapers.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Geez... excellent info MN. Thanks.


16 posted on 12/28/2005 9:00:13 AM PST by AliVeritas (The Boy Who Cried Wolf in reverse- the DNC. The Constitution is not a suicide pact - A.L.)
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To: Xenalyte

It will likely be a guest host... not a rerun.


17 posted on 12/28/2005 9:01:52 AM PST by AliVeritas (The Boy Who Cried Wolf in reverse- the DNC. The Constitution is not a suicide pact - A.L.)
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To: Vision

Mark Belling is the only guy I like. Think the rest suck, especially one of those guys from CA.


18 posted on 12/28/2005 9:03:01 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Xenalyte

Guest host, rerun. Hard to decide which would be better. Frankly I miss Rush.


19 posted on 12/28/2005 9:05:18 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: KC_Conspirator

There was one guy a few weeks ago who rocked. He was almost as good as Rush for the one show. I've have to search my posts to find his name.


20 posted on 12/28/2005 9:06:59 AM PST by Vision (“We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the duty of intelligent men")
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To: MNJohnnie; Tony Snow

Roger Hedgecock is okay . . . do I recall incorrectly, or did Tony Snow used to fill in for Rush? I adore Tony! (To whom courtesy ping.)


21 posted on 12/28/2005 9:07:16 AM PST by Xenalyte (Babies, before we're done here, y'all be wearin' gold-plated diapers.)
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To: Xenalyte

Is that the real Tony Snow?


22 posted on 12/28/2005 9:08:17 AM PST by Vision (“We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the duty of intelligent men")
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To: Vision

I've been told that it is.


23 posted on 12/28/2005 9:10:43 AM PST by Xenalyte (Babies, before we're done here, y'all be wearin' gold-plated diapers.)
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To: Vision

Gee I wonder if any of the "Journalists" read the post World War 2 history of Europe? What is going on in Iraq happened before.


24 posted on 12/28/2005 9:11:36 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: MNJohnnie

bttt


25 posted on 12/28/2005 9:12:47 AM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: Xenalyte

I searched his posts, and it looks like it is.

Nice


26 posted on 12/28/2005 9:13:21 AM PST by Vision (“We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the duty of intelligent men")
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To: Xenalyte; Vision

I can assure you that it is the real Tony Snow.


27 posted on 12/28/2005 9:15:13 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: MNJohnnie
Gee I wonder if any of the "Journalists" read the post World War 2 history of Europe? What is going on in Iraq happened before

Even if they had, that wouldn't stop their agenda. They have to be defeated.
28 posted on 12/28/2005 9:15:57 AM PST by Vision (“We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the duty of intelligent men")
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To: MNJohnnie

Great stuff on the African wiretaps MNJ, sounds like another AD disaster.


29 posted on 12/28/2005 9:16:50 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support Able Danger and Lt.Col Shaffer,Condi Rice/VP in 08--)
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To: Bahbah
Now if we can only get poster "Rush Limbaugh" here, lol
30 posted on 12/28/2005 9:17:10 AM PST by Vision (“We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the duty of intelligent men")
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To: Vision
Even if they had, that wouldn't stop their agenda. They have to be defeated.

Oh yeah, ditto.

31 posted on 12/28/2005 9:17:30 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: MNJohnnie

Me too.


32 posted on 12/28/2005 9:18:29 AM PST by A.Hun (Democrats suck worse than ice storms.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Guest host, rerun. Hard to decide which would be better. Frankly I miss Rush.

I have an archive of Rush's shows from the day that he started "podcasting". I'm reviewing the 12/20 show now. (and I never download the subs.)

33 posted on 12/28/2005 9:18:49 AM PST by Christian4Bush ("The only 'new tone' we hear should be that of the Left's telephone being disconnected. " dogcaller)
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To: MNJohnnie

MB is getting to the REAL story on the spy crisis, FINALLY!!


34 posted on 12/28/2005 9:20:31 AM PST by Mr Cobol (.Liberalism isn't a political philosophy. It's a vile combination of sickness and evil—M Schiller)
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To: Christian4Bush; All
Belling is o.k. but Hedgecock is really good.
35 posted on 12/28/2005 9:21:01 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support Able Danger and Lt.Col Shaffer,Condi Rice/VP in 08--)
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To: Bahbah
I think Tony was deeply touched by the outpouring of love and good wishes from Freepers when he was undergoing his cancer ordeal.

This is the neat thing about Freeperdom - even the big guys know about us and often lurk here (although Tony posts under his own name).

36 posted on 12/28/2005 9:23:29 AM PST by Inspectorette
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To: varmintxer

Exactly.


37 posted on 12/28/2005 9:23:50 AM PST by AliVeritas (The Boy Who Cried Wolf in reverse- the DNC. The Constitution is not a suicide pact - A.L.)
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To: AliVeritas

There hasn't been a successful attack on US soil since 9-11. The Dems can't have that continuing.


38 posted on 12/28/2005 9:24:45 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

39 posted on 12/28/2005 9:26:22 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: rodguy911
Survey of 1,000 Adults

December 26-27, 2005

Should the National Security Agency be allowed to intercept telephone conversations between terrorism suspects in other countries and people living in the United States?

Yes 64%
No 23%
RasmussenReports.com

Is President Bush the first President to authorize a program for intercepting telephone conversations between terrorism suspects in other countries and people living in the United States?

Yes 26%
No 48% RasmussenReports.com

December 28, 2005--Sixty-four percent (64%) of Americans believe the National Security Agency (NSA) should be allowed to intercept telephone conversations between terrorism suspects in other countries and people living in the United States. A Rasmussen Reports survey found that just 23% disagree.

Sixty-eight percent (68%) of Americans say they are following the NSA story somewhat or very closely.

Just 26% believe President Bush is the first to authorize a program like the one currently in the news. Forty-eight percent (48%) say he is not while 26% are not sure

40 posted on 12/28/2005 9:27:45 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: mewzilla
There hasn't been a successful attack on US soil since 9-11. The Dems can't have that continuing.

The President made a statement in his most recent press conference that one of the things the terrorists wanted to do on 9/11 was disrupte the continuity of the federal government. In other words, congresscritters, they wanted to kill you. I was out of town. The dems had best be careful what they wish for.

41 posted on 12/28/2005 9:28:00 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: MNJohnnie

Work n Lurk mode ... ON
Listening to NOT Rush now lol


42 posted on 12/28/2005 9:28:35 AM PST by sono (Every purple finger is a bullet in the chest of terrorism.)
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To: mewzilla

Great post. You and MB are right on. Listen up all you other talkie subs.


43 posted on 12/28/2005 9:29:49 AM PST by Mr Cobol (.Liberalism isn't a political philosophy. It's a vile combination of sickness and evil—M Schiller)
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To: Bahbah
The dems had best be careful what they wish for.

If those folks on that plane that went down in PA hadn't stopped the terrorists, some of those Dems might not still be around to give aid and comfort to the enemy. What a fine way the Dems have in honoring the memory of those passengers.

45 posted on 12/28/2005 9:31:36 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Tony Snow

Merry Christmas Tony


46 posted on 12/28/2005 9:33:53 AM PST by Vision (“We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the duty of intelligent men")
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To: Vision
Earth to caller: 43 isn't wiretapping the American public.

And BTW, the Constitution isn't a suicide pact, junior.

47 posted on 12/28/2005 9:35:16 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
The caller reads and believes what he reads in the NYT.

Nuff said.

48 posted on 12/28/2005 9:36:01 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: KC_Conspirator
Mark Belling is the only guy I like

Mark is kicking *SS and taking names today!!

God Bless Him.

49 posted on 12/28/2005 9:36:29 AM PST by beyond the sea (If you need a really new idea ..................... read a really old book.)
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To: Vision

Liar. Liar. Liar. Caller is a FRAUD. What was your MOS stoodge? Typical Hysterical liar Democrat. Make an accusation and then fillbuster. Hey Jackas@, WHERE were you when Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter did this SAME thing? Wasted too much time on this looser


50 posted on 12/28/2005 9:36:34 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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