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The Radioactive Boy Scout
http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/radio_scout ^ | KEN SILVERSTEIN

Posted on 12/29/2005 1:45:14 PM PST by Wonder Warthog

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Hmmm--an abitious little bugger, wasn't he.
1 posted on 12/29/2005 1:45:15 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

n oldie, but a goodie....


2 posted on 12/29/2005 1:46:44 PM PST by freebilly
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To: Wonder Warthog

Somebody needs to give that guy a good job and a good education. Not many kids with the know-how, interest and smarts to do that. He could be the next Einstein, Teller or Oppenhiemer.


3 posted on 12/29/2005 1:50:42 PM PST by Redcitizen (My tagline can beat up your honor tagline)
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To: Redcitizen

Navy has a lot of nukes.


4 posted on 12/29/2005 1:53:41 PM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Interesting article. A couple of miles from home. Thanks for posting.


5 posted on 12/29/2005 1:54:11 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Wonder Warthog

I always wondered what happened to him.


6 posted on 12/29/2005 1:55:27 PM PST by kingu
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To: Wonder Warthog

Scarey. Why couldn't some homegrown America-hating Jihadist baddies make a dirty bomb with some of the same materials?


7 posted on 12/29/2005 1:55:44 PM PST by billndin
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To: Wonder Warthog

Wow! Who'da thunk it?


8 posted on 12/29/2005 1:56:12 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Redcitizen

More like an Edison or a Graham. But he definitely needs a workshop...


9 posted on 12/29/2005 1:58:23 PM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Wonder Warthog
"It's simply presumed that the average person wouldn't have the technology or materials required to experiment in these areas."

The "average person" is more inventive than government or academia.
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10 posted on 12/29/2005 1:59:16 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Damn.. what a story. And we thought Three Mile Island was a bit of a bother.


11 posted on 12/29/2005 2:00:34 PM PST by xcamel (a system poltergeist stole it.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Now, Imagine what a scientist in an oil-rich Mid-Eastern county can do despite 12 years of UN sanctions...


12 posted on 12/29/2005 2:00:53 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Depending on his exposure level, he may have increased his life expectancy. Statistics have shown that the effects of radiation exposure graph out in the shape of a "J", with a small amount being beneficial, and with increases becoming more beneficial before beoming less beneficial and then beoming harmful.


13 posted on 12/29/2005 2:01:02 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Right Wing Professor; Physicist

Holy crap! Ping to a coupl'a fellas who might be interested.


14 posted on 12/29/2005 2:03:49 PM PST by TheBigB (Never banned or suspended even once! Ask me how!)
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To: Wonder Warthog

ping


15 posted on 12/29/2005 2:03:51 PM PST by trailboss800
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To: Wonder Warthog

I hope the terrorists do not read this article.


16 posted on 12/29/2005 2:13:20 PM PST by mountainlyons (Merry CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!)
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To: TheBigB

http://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q3501.html


17 posted on 12/29/2005 2:14:49 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: mountainlyons; Wonder Warthog
I hope the terrorists do not read this article

Nothing that is not known in any basic nuclear engineering text book. See my link on the viability of producing an effective device using this method.

18 posted on 12/29/2005 2:16:23 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Wonder Warthog

I read that book last year, quite an interesting story.

You can do a lot with a few hundred chips of americanium from smoke detectors and a few thousand lantern mantles.


19 posted on 12/29/2005 2:17:21 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Won't you eat my sleazy pancakes, just for Saintly Alfonzo)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Another one of those "Don't try this at home" threads.


20 posted on 12/29/2005 2:23:40 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
few thousand lantern mantles.

The new ones no longer contain Thorium. I used to use lantern mantles to test my scintillator until I bought a Cesium 137 source. :-)

21 posted on 12/29/2005 2:25:39 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Unfortunately the book was written by some liberal luddite bastard. The moral of the story seems to have been "science is bad".


22 posted on 12/29/2005 2:27:55 PM PST by ClaudiusI
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To: Central Scrutiniser
FYI, You can buy all kinds of radioactive sources thru the mail.

I bought a Cs137, Co60, and a Sr90 test kit this way.

23 posted on 12/29/2005 2:29:13 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: ClaudiusI

It was still a good story.

What is scary is all the girls that worked in clock factories that would paint their nails with the radium paint, or put it on their teeth as a joke.

They didn't laugh too long.


24 posted on 12/29/2005 2:30:18 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Won't you eat my sleazy pancakes, just for Saintly Alfonzo)
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To: RadioAstronomer

I have some deuterium and tritium in my swimming pool.

At least a few molecules.


25 posted on 12/29/2005 2:30:59 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Won't you eat my sleazy pancakes, just for Saintly Alfonzo)
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To: Wonder Warthog

ping


26 posted on 12/29/2005 2:31:18 PM PST by PioneerDrive (Don't fence me in.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

The Golden Book of Chemistry Experiments is going for hundreds of dollars now.


27 posted on 12/29/2005 2:32:39 PM PST by King Moonracer
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To: Wonder Warthog
If the Radioactive Boy Scout hooks up with this kid, we need a heads up.
28 posted on 12/29/2005 2:34:30 PM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: Wonder Warthog

bump


29 posted on 12/29/2005 2:34:46 PM PST by VOA
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To: Wonder Warthog

"I wonder if this will get me a merit badge..."

30 posted on 12/29/2005 2:35:08 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: Redcitizen
He could be the next Einstein, Teller or Oppenhiemer.

Not if some public school official got to him with some Ritalin.
31 posted on 12/29/2005 2:35:42 PM PST by VOA
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Deuterium you can purchase thru the mails as well. :-)

Tritium is found in many items such as illuminated watch hands.

In fact, you can purchase sealed borosilicate vials that contains Tritium inside a phosphor coating that will glow for 30 years. People use them for scuba diving and on key rings.


32 posted on 12/29/2005 2:36:06 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer
"FYI, You can buy all kinds of radioactive sources thru the mail."

Yeah, but I'll bet they would look at you a bit askance if you asked'em to ship a thousand or so to the same address.

But, 'tis true--anyone can buy any isotope in "General License Quantities".

33 posted on 12/29/2005 2:36:31 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Depending on his exposure level, he may have increased his life expectancy.

Yep.
This effect even gets mentioned at mandatory Radiation Safety lectures
at UCLA.
34 posted on 12/29/2005 2:37:43 PM PST by VOA
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I've seen the scuba stuff with tritium.

I go the low tech route for when I do night dives. I go to the dollar store and buy a bunch of those glow in the dark cylume plastic halloween things.

Just before entering the water, I give everyone a different color, break the vial inside and activate them, and that way, I know who is who underwater and if a flashlight breaks down, we know where that person is.


35 posted on 12/29/2005 2:41:53 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Won't you eat my sleazy pancakes, just for Saintly Alfonzo)
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You and me both. :-)

I don't do many night dives anymore. Not much to see. However, have you ever lit up coral with a UV light? Pretty cool.


36 posted on 12/29/2005 2:43:35 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Wonder Warthog
but I'll bet they would look at you a bit askance

LOL! Yuppers!

37 posted on 12/29/2005 2:44:57 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer

That could be fun.

I might be going for my masters and instructor soon, got a free place to stay in the Carribean.

I just like how every once in a while you completely suprise a fish at night and they freak out. What I don't like are groupers and butterfly fish that always follow you about 2 feet behind your shoulder when you dive at night.

Best night dive to do is the Kona manta ray dives, they bring down a huge amount of lights to a spot off shore where a hotel light has been shining for years. Then you sit on the bottom and get about 5 or 6 mantas, each about 6 ft wide and 3 feet long.


38 posted on 12/29/2005 2:48:09 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Won't you eat my sleazy pancakes, just for Saintly Alfonzo)
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To: VOA
This effect even gets mentioned at mandatory Radiation Safety lectures at UCLA.

You mean I was right? I wasn't sure if I actually read that somewhere, or if it was the cold medicine talking.

40 posted on 12/29/2005 3:26:31 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: RadioAstronomer

I used to turn off the dive lights and enjoy the natural phosphorescnence. A reef looks like a miniature city.


41 posted on 12/29/2005 3:32:43 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: RadioAstronomer
The new ones no longer contain Thorium. I used to use lantern mantles to test my scintillator until I bought a Cesium 137 source. :-)

The saddest part of the story was his ignorance of the basics that could have had him doing a better job.

For example, the old Coleman mantles are treated with thorium nitrate, which could have been rinsed out and concentrated with water. Once fired, the ThO2 is formed. This is also true of the modern yttrium mantles. He did not have to ash them, thereby causing so much dilution. Nuclear reactions do not care about the compound, unless it contains neutron absorbing elements like cadmium.

If he wanted an alpha source, raiding Staticmaster brushes would have been much more rewarding. A milligram of polonium emits as many alpha particles per second as 5 grams of radium. The energy released by its decay is so large that a capsule containing about 0.5 grams reaches a temperature above 500K. Since a->Be>-oN1 only has a yield of 1 in 10^4 or so, the higher alpha flux from Polonium would have greatly helped him.

In short, it was a bungled and pathetic effort, that could have been vastly improved with a half an hour on the Web.

"C" for effort, "F" for Style.

42 posted on 12/29/2005 3:43:09 PM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: Army Air Corps

What it goes to show is that American boy scouts are smarter than all the scientists in the middle east.


43 posted on 12/29/2005 4:00:20 PM PST by Sentis
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To: PGalt
A couple of miles from home

You're almost in my back yard.........

44 posted on 12/29/2005 4:04:01 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (If I get socks again this year from my sis and bro-in-law I'm going to be really mad....)
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To: billndin

Any idiot could make a dirty bomb if they could get the radioactive material.


45 posted on 12/29/2005 4:16:46 PM PST by lesser_satan
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To: Hot Tabasco

Gotta get together.


46 posted on 12/29/2005 10:24:37 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Gorzaloon
For example, the old Coleman mantles are treated with thorium nitrate, which could have been rinsed out and concentrated with water. Once fired, the ThO2 is formed. This is also true of the modern yttrium mantles. He did not have to ash them, thereby causing so much dilution.

The water would release the Th from the Th(NO3)4? (Assuming Th valence of 4)

47 posted on 12/29/2005 10:35:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Ditto

Then there is the EMP gun.....salvage a CRT tube from an old TV, knock off all the glass and replace it with a shielded tube, and set up a capacitor with a solid state relay to power......

"That's all I got to say about that.", Forrest Gump.

Once upon a time a dude I know of made himself sick with a similar device he built. He didn't understand why he got sick, but once the hospital figured it out he got a visit from.....weeelllll...he ain't supposed to do that no more.

It is a quick and silent method to kill rats at the local dump, however.

I guess the Department of Homeland Security is coming to lobotomize me now, or the Defense Department will be hiring me as a consultant.


48 posted on 12/29/2005 10:44:38 PM PST by 308MBR (Not only older, but bolder. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Leave my night sights alone.


49 posted on 12/29/2005 10:46:17 PM PST by 308MBR (Not only older, but bolder. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

And all we did when we were kids was patiently use a pin to pick the gunpowder out of toy caps until we had enough to make a giant firecracker.


50 posted on 12/29/2005 10:47:38 PM PST by Age of Reason
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