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Dear Droppings (liberal yammers about FR to local paper, mentions presidio9 -am I famous now?)
(Montpelier) Times Argus ^ | December 29, 2005 | Rama Schneider

Posted on 12/30/2005 7:23:05 AM PST by presidio9

Just wanted to send a note and say hey and tell you about one of the darnedest things. And I gotta say it is one of the clearest examples of how CONservatives (not to be confused with honest conservatives) have managed to convince so many people so many lies are in fact the truth. This is indeed a rather mind numbing stor ... eh ... no ... actually it's what I'd expect.

So here's what happened, Droppings: Somebody with the screen name of "presidio9" picked up my piece Green diets vs. global warming and posted it on the Internet message board Free Republic (click here to read post). You'll note presidio9 added "(eating better may reduce the methane released into atmosphere)" to my title without attributing his/her editing to her/himself ... and it's an edit that had nothing to do with my topic! The pretense of discussion that follows turns out to be chatter about the title part presidio9 itself added, and the responses were to a point never made in the article.

Simply put they took a truth (the article), added something that was not true (change to the title) and then acted like it was the author, and not one of themselves, who made the change to the title.

Those on the Free Republic site don't even rate as amateurs, but there are indeed pros doing the same thing. Remember John Kerry, my dear Droppings, and those miserable swift boat claims? They took the truth that John Kerry served in Vietnam, received several decorations and was wounded several times ... added their own claims that Kerry wasn't at certain incidents or wounded himself or lied on official reports ... and then made a "mainstream" media assisted and huge uproar over the issues they raised ... issues that turned out to be false!

For the mother of all lies ... Saddam Hussein and Iraq ... it was a set of actors that included so many in such high governmental offices: President, Vice President, Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense (my what a misnomer), National Security Adviser and on and on. Droppings, it was so easy for them to layer the false claims regarding WMD and ties to al Qaeda onto such a despicable and barbarous person as Hussein ... and they did and they did and they did ad nauseum ... such ad nauseum only matched by the obsequious press renditions of each and every lie.

Forewarned is fore armed I guess my dear Droppings, and understanding how CONservatives (not to be confused with honest conservatives) manipulate the truth is a good forewarning for all of us I'd say.

PS. Droppings ... make sure you read Frames (click here) too!


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1 posted on 12/30/2005 7:23:05 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

He actually has a point, in that you shouldn't have changed the title of the article.


2 posted on 12/30/2005 7:24:46 AM PST by Blzbba ("Shop Smart. Shop S-Mart" - Ashe, Housewares)
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To: Area Freeper; farmfriend; johnny7; Clemenza; Fierce Allegiance; TheBigB; dead; martin_fierro; ...

ping


3 posted on 12/30/2005 7:26:14 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

Has Oscar Wilde been reborn?

Nope, just a whiny hack with a head full of hooey.

Should we debate him? Perhaps, on the condition he wipes the froth from his cakehole.


4 posted on 12/30/2005 7:27:53 AM PST by Freedom_Fighter_2001 (When money is no object - it's your money they're talking about)
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To: Blzbba

Another interesting point would be that you would need to be living on Mars to be hearing the theory that switching to a vegan diet would reduce bovine methane emissions for the first time.


5 posted on 12/30/2005 7:27:57 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: Blzbba

The title was not changed. Poster comments are allowed in the header so long as they are placed in parenthesis. Thanks.


6 posted on 12/30/2005 7:28:28 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: presidio9

Rama.....great name, buddy.


7 posted on 12/30/2005 7:28:49 AM PST by Sam's Army ("Terrorism is a matter for the police" MurryMom 11/28/05)
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To: presidio9
Are you famous? You betcha, "Buckhead."

And, you didn't change the title. I looked. You just embellished it, as is frequently done here for amusement purposes only. The prose the writer is whining about is also intact.

8 posted on 12/30/2005 7:30:01 AM PST by Cyber Liberty ( 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: presidio9

"...it was so easy for them to layer the false claims regarding WMD and ties to al Qaeda onto such a despicable and barbarous person as Hussein ..."

I thought the author was going to refer to that evil Slobodan Milosovic that had all those evil things attributed to him to justify starting a war without UN approval.

BTW: Did anyone ever dig up a mass grave in Kosovo?


9 posted on 12/30/2005 7:30:13 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: presidio9
If the thin-skinned lefty hack took the time to learn anything about FR, he would realize that parenthesized comments in a thread title are generally accepted as a comment by the poster.


Whiney doofus.
10 posted on 12/30/2005 7:30:36 AM PST by socal_parrot (The diet starts today!)
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To: Lead Moderator; presidio9

"The title was not changed. Poster comments are allowed in the header so long as they are placed in parenthesis. Thanks."



Unaware of that policy. I extend my apologies, presidio9.

(Man, you Mods are omnipotent!!)


11 posted on 12/30/2005 7:30:45 AM PST by Blzbba ("Shop Smart. Shop S-Mart" - Ashe, Housewares)
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To: presidio9

Note to Rama: Nothing the Swifties ever said about John Kerry was proven false.

Nice try.


12 posted on 12/30/2005 7:31:01 AM PST by exit82 (Congressional Democrats---treasonously stuck on stupid.)
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To: Blzbba
(Man, you Mods are omnipotent!!)

;)

13 posted on 12/30/2005 7:31:41 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: Cyber Liberty

Don't tell the liberals about our evil subheading conspiracy.


14 posted on 12/30/2005 7:32:54 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

What is "droppings?" pray tell?


15 posted on 12/30/2005 7:33:50 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: presidio9

Cool. You made him/her/it get their panties in a wad. And they were not even smart enough to realize that your comment was the best part of the whole sorry article.


16 posted on 12/30/2005 7:34:34 AM PST by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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To: presidio9

"Droppings"?


What a fitting name for a left wing blog.


17 posted on 12/30/2005 7:35:21 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: presidio9

He ought to be happy his little POS column was posted here. It got twice the traffic because of FR.


18 posted on 12/30/2005 7:35:25 AM PST by brothers4thID ("Kerry demands that Iraqis terrorize children in the dead of night")
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To: socal_parrot
If the thin-skinned lefty hack took the time to learn anything about FR, he would realize that parenthesized comments in a thread title are generally accepted as a comment by the poster.

Actually, if he had looked at other posts, he would have noticed that they are often humor. Apparently this is a novel concept in liberaland, where all news reporting is fair and accurate.

19 posted on 12/30/2005 7:35:52 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

Hey Rama. What is all this "Droppings" drivel? You are obviously referring to both your syntax and substance.


20 posted on 12/30/2005 7:36:02 AM PST by 101st-Eagle
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To: presidio9

Someone call the Waaaaaaaaaaambulance for Rama.


21 posted on 12/30/2005 7:36:13 AM PST by ssaftler (Politically Correct isn't! Progressives aren't!)
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To: Blzbba
Yah, but brackets are commonly used at FR to add satire or disclaimers, and are known to be the poster's, not the authors.

Ex: Clinton's Legacy (Barf Alert)

I can see where it created a problem, but geez, some people need to lighten up. I doubt it was intentionally done to "forge" a headline. If you don't frequent these boards, you might not distinguish the diff. The author also could have pm'd the poster to at least ask why that was done.

Those on the Free Republic site don't even rate as amateurs, but there are indeed pros doing the same thing. Remember John Kerry, my dear Droppings, and those miserable swift boat claims? They took the truth that John Kerry served in Vietnam, received several decorations and was wounded several times ... added their own claims that Kerry wasn't at certain incidents or wounded himself or lied on official reports ... and then made a "mainstream" media assisted and huge uproar over the issues they raised ... issues that turned out to be false!

Uhm no. The charges made by the Swiftboat Vets were proven true by officers who served with Kerry, they were never discredited or proven false. Lots of Lefty's insist the swifties were discredited, but none have ever followed that charge with examples or proof. Wishing doesn't make it so.

22 posted on 12/30/2005 7:38:07 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: presidio9
Well, look how that one squealed like a stuck pig!

Glad she posted a link to FR. Our Rendezvous with Rama went well....

23 posted on 12/30/2005 7:39:22 AM PST by Cyber Liberty ( 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Fenris6

Damn mods type faster than me too! Meanies! :)


24 posted on 12/30/2005 7:39:23 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: presidio9

You're a Star!

I send my hubby the FReeper funny of the Day. One thread a day that makes me laugh out loud.

I think I sent that one!


25 posted on 12/30/2005 7:39:45 AM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: presidio9
A suggested title embellishment:

Dear Droppings (Sniveling Greenie Takes Ride in the Waaaaahmbulance)

26 posted on 12/30/2005 7:40:37 AM PST by Lil'freeper (HAPPY NEW YEAR!!)
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To: presidio9

It's funny when liberals think we care.


27 posted on 12/30/2005 7:41:12 AM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: Blzbba

Well, it'/s hard to tell exactly WHAT point the author was trying to make with the article, because no points are developed beyond the rhetorical stage: It DOES seem that thte author leaves him(her?) self open to ridicule for the suggestion that human "emissions" due to the wrong diet are responsible to some degree for global warming. This contention is demonstrably more ridiculous than the same argument put forth against SUVs and numerous other villains.
Either way, the article is foolish in both its claims and its "preaching to the choir" rhetoric.


28 posted on 12/30/2005 7:41:17 AM PST by willyboyishere
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To: 101st-Eagle

Appears to be stranger than that. I think she's calling her readers "Droppings".


29 posted on 12/30/2005 7:42:01 AM PST by Cyber Liberty ( 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Fenris6

"Yah, but brackets are commonly used at FR to add satire or disclaimers, and are known to be the poster's, not the authors. "


Yeah, I know now and have already apologized to presidio9.


30 posted on 12/30/2005 7:44:21 AM PST by Blzbba ("Shop Smart. Shop S-Mart" - Ashe, Housewares)
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To: presidio9
Those on the Free Republic site don't even rate as amateurs

Even amateurs do a bit of research before diving in. Again, what does it say about the whiner that he/she/it didn't even try to contact presidio9 to ask what was up. Just jumped to conclusions and knee-jerked a whiney moan. Amateurs....

31 posted on 12/30/2005 7:44:21 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: presidio9
Simply put they took a truth (the article), added something that was not true (change to the title) and then acted like it was the author, and not one of themselves...

Everything published in newspapers, especially the opinion columns, is truth. Everything on the Freep pages is false. OK now I get it.
32 posted on 12/30/2005 7:45:52 AM PST by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: ken5050
"Droppings" are people who have been dropped on their heads from very high places. When their brains get scrambled up, we then call them "liberals" , or "demorats"!(same difference) If they are beyond any help, we then call them "journalists for the MSM", and these folks are to be avoided at all costs as all they can do is make stuff up, then lie about it. If they have less than two brain cells remaining, we call them "demorat senators". These can be described as "Kennedy, Biden, Leahy, or Kerry", and are to be avoided too! I hope this helps you understand what "droppings" really are. :0 )
33 posted on 12/30/2005 7:46:18 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: Blzbba
Yeah, I know now and have already apologized to presidio9.

Yah, sorry. When I started typing my post the thread was empty, but everyone else chimed in and cleared stuff up before I posted it. I must be getting old & slow ;)

34 posted on 12/30/2005 7:46:56 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: presidio9

Liberals love ya.


35 posted on 12/30/2005 7:49:30 AM PST by Porterville (Keep your communism off my paycheck)
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To: presidio9

More elitist drivel. The author even calls her readers, "poop"!

Bwahahahaha


36 posted on 12/30/2005 7:50:41 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Dagnabit! I dint set my beeber to stune. How will I stop the the chimpeachment now?)
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To: Fenris6

"Yah, sorry. When I started typing my post the thread was empty, but everyone else chimed in and cleared stuff up before I posted it. I must be getting old & slow ;)"


Ahh, no problem. I made a jacka$$ out of myself with my first response to presidio9 and have been braying in apology ever since.

I'm truly impressed with the speed of the Mods, though. You ain't slow, FRiend - they're just lightning-fast!


37 posted on 12/30/2005 7:50:54 AM PST by Blzbba ("Shop Smart. Shop S-Mart" - Ashe, Housewares)
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To: presidio9

All liberals must be summarily executed.


38 posted on 12/30/2005 7:51:45 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: presidio9
added their own claims that Kerry wasn't at certain incidents

Kerry himself has been forced by the Swifties to retract his claim that he was in Cambodia during Christmas. He now claims he was mistaken, even though he testifed under oath in Congress [1972?] about how it was "seared in his memory". LOL. +1 Swifties.

Oh yeah, Kerry is also a confessed war criminal. Haul him before your precious ICC please. -1 Kerry

39 posted on 12/30/2005 7:51:48 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: presidio9

Your parentheses comment was the only phrase that made sense in the original article, LOL!


40 posted on 12/30/2005 7:52:01 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: Blzbba
Yeah, I know now and have already apologized to presidio9.

HEY! Didn't you know that brackets are commonly used to editorialize in the title? Get with the program, mister!

41 posted on 12/30/2005 7:52:49 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Blzbba

"Ahh, no problem. I made a jacka$$ out of myself with my first response to presidio9 and have been braying in apology ever since"

Good man. And don't sweat the mistake. I make a jacka$$ out of myself all the time here :) And the mods are CRUEL because they won't allow an "edit post" feature here. *whines to mods* Meanies!


42 posted on 12/30/2005 7:53:54 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Lead Moderator
(Man, you Mods are omnipotent!!)

And incredibly sexy.

< /Suckup>

43 posted on 12/30/2005 7:54:15 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: BenLurkin; presidio9
What a fitting name for a left wing blog.

LOL! I was about to say, there's something just *wrong* about the combination of the "Droppings" title and the subject matter of Rama's original article. ;)

44 posted on 12/30/2005 7:56:18 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: presidio9
Those on the Free Republic site don't even rate as amateurs...

Oh, your bitterness is like sweet, sweet honey.

heh heh heh...
45 posted on 12/30/2005 7:56:56 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: Blzbba

Jeeze, somebody call him a Whaaaambulance.


46 posted on 12/30/2005 7:57:46 AM PST by correctthought (Hippies, want to change the world, but all they ever do is smoke pot and smell bad)
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To: presidio9
Droppings
An apropos label for an MSM outlet.

-Eric

47 posted on 12/30/2005 8:00:55 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: presidio9

So Baghdad Bob is going by the name Rama Schneider now, eh?


48 posted on 12/30/2005 8:04:21 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment

Rama Schneider? Hell, with that mname I'd be predisposed to whine & moan over frivolity too. LOL.


49 posted on 12/30/2005 8:05:47 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: proud American in Canada
"Your parentheses comment was the only phrase that made sense in the original article, LOL!"

That's NUANCE for ya!

50 posted on 12/30/2005 8:06:38 AM PST by Sam's Army ("Terrorism is a matter for the police" MurryMom 11/28/05)
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