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CA: A plan to boost green projects - Coalition in state drafts parks, water measure for ballot
Mercury News ^ | 12/30/05 | Paul Rogers

Posted on 12/30/2005 9:25:03 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 12/30/2005 9:25:05 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Weird. GanGreen already owns a number of politicos and NGOs and the Gub's mansion along with the GLBT'rs and unions... and now demand their another piece of the pie.
2 posted on 12/30/2005 9:28:02 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Look out for this park crap. Just another government land grab at our expense. We lose when we pay off the bond, we lose when the land goes off the tax roll, and we lose through lost productivity.

Just seeing the groups involved should scare voters off.

I love that name though; Sherry Bebitch Jeffe?


3 posted on 12/30/2005 9:31:34 AM PST by barj
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To: NormsRevenge; barj; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; calcowgirl; tubebender
The environmental coalition is composed of deep-pocketed land trusts and other organizations that campaigned to win passage of the last parks and water bonds, Propositions 40 and 50 in 2002.

The obvious question is: What did they do with the ~5 BILLION $ they got four years ago? Answer: They are using it as a way to fund the various agencies like Department of Fish & Game, Water Quality, even CalTrans and the public schools. It's not like they are spending the money on actually buying parks, they are using the bond mechanism to fund current operating expenses of a bloated State government. Stand by for a link....

4 posted on 12/30/2005 9:46:30 AM PST by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie; forester; dalereed; ElkGroveDan
Does anybody here remember the 1994 initiative called "CALPAW?" The state voted it down in a smack-down!!! It was just like this one with the same GANG-GREEN-GROUPS!!!

The only thing missing is the person named Gerald Meral, founder of the CA Mountain Lion Foundation and some Rural/Urban Planning group whose name escapes me in my Senior Moment!!!

5 posted on 12/30/2005 9:59:26 AM PST by SierraWasp (EnvironMentalism... America's establishment of it's unconstitutional State Religion!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge; barj; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; calcowgirl; tubebender
Department of Fish and Game Fisheries Restoration Grant Program Approved Projects for Fiscal Year 2003/2004

Scroll down at least 1/3 of the way and you will see where the money is going. DFG staff will tell small landowners," There is money available to help you." I only see one private individual on the whole list. The rest is being divided up between State agencies, cities, counties, RCD's and enviro groups.

In short, these people are junkies, looking for another fix from the taxpayers.

6 posted on 12/30/2005 10:03:21 AM PST by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: SierraWasp

And the beat goes on...


7 posted on 12/30/2005 10:03:49 AM PST by FOG724 (A vote for McCain is a vote for Hillary)
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To: forester
My bet is that the trusts are also looking to unload their property at inflated prices so that they have the cash for another round.
8 posted on 12/30/2005 10:07:33 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie; FOG724

Yep, get the taxpayers to buy their commandeered property at high market prices. Like fog says, the beat goes on...


9 posted on 12/30/2005 10:19:17 AM PST by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: forester

Looks like they took a page from the social security adiministration's book on how to handle money.


10 posted on 12/30/2005 10:42:39 AM PST by barj
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To: forester

"It's not like they are spending the money on actually buying parks"

There are too many parks now used mainly for living quarters for illegals, offices for drug dealers, city council ego trips, and the employment of maintainance people.

NO MORE BONDS!


11 posted on 12/30/2005 10:43:38 AM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed
NO MORE BONDS!

Not even OO7?

12 posted on 12/30/2005 10:54:29 AM PST by b9
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To: doodlelady

Even the story line is becoming almost a repeat with a new face!


13 posted on 12/30/2005 10:57:47 AM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed

True. Nobody beats Connery.


14 posted on 12/30/2005 11:00:08 AM PST by b9
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To: dalereed
There are too many parks now used mainly for living quarters for illegals, offices for drug dealers, city council ego trips, and the employment of maintainance people.

You're too correct on that! And what do the enviro's and the bureaucrats with the forest service have to say? Zip! The drug cartels are destroying the parks and forests we have with their dope growing enterprises.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1524578/posts

National parks' pot farms blamed on cartels

15 posted on 12/30/2005 11:04:14 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: SierraWasp
Does anybody here remember the 1994 initiative called "CALPAW?"

I don't recall that one. Are you sure you aren't thinking of Prop 128 of 1990, the "Big Green Initiative?"

16 posted on 12/30/2005 11:05:30 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: forester
They are using it as a way to fund the various agencies like Department of Fish & Game, Water Quality, even CalTrans and the public schools.

Thanks for the link. My personal favorite: $111,844 to study the ancestry of trout.

17 posted on 12/30/2005 11:17:40 AM PST by calcowgirl
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To: NormsRevenge
Pollster Mark Baldassare called their tactic ``politically savvy,'' and said it might lead to odd coalitions of bird watchers and highway builders if lawmakers combine all the bond language into one large measure.

I believe the term is PORK.

18 posted on 12/30/2005 11:21:07 AM PST by calcowgirl
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To: WatchingInAmazement; dalereed

Also, take a look at who gets the concessions to run these parks!

Here is one snip (hint):

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21395

Since the 1970s, [Bruce] Babbitt [D] has been criticized over his involvement with Emprise Corp. and later Delaware North Corp. As both attorney general of Arizona and as governor, Babbitt supported the company with links to organized crime, which, under his watch, became the concessionaire for Yosemite National Park. Oh, by the way, Babbitt took a $45,000 payoff from the company to ensure it retained its dog-racing licenses in the state.


19 posted on 12/30/2005 11:29:25 AM PST by calcowgirl
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Babbitt,, welll hardie har har har..

It's looking like another 'Business as usual' year in CaliPORKnia in 2006 ...


20 posted on 12/30/2005 11:46:12 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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