How the Anti-Evolution Debate Has Evolved

History News Network ^ | 20 December 2005 | Charles A. Israel

[RunningWolf]

Woman, you are just plain nuts.

Busted Banjo never demolishes anything, save for in the minds at the little nutball ward cult of darwinist atheist evolutionism.

What have ever done that is honest or courageous? I say nothing. How can you have a concept of these things then? You cant.

Wolf

[RunningWolf]

You're assuming that living things have an inherent purpose.

Some living things do. In your case this may be debatable.

Wolf

[bondserv]

No need to make such an assumption. This matter differs from creationism/ID because in this matter we actually have hard evidence of a composer.

The author (who exists outside of our time domain as proven by His knowing history before it happens) of the Old Testament became a man in Jesus Christ. He preformed many miracles before multitudes, including His own resurrection from the dead; which changed mankind to it's core.

Modern brilliant minds feel they can remain ignorant of the Holy Scriptures. This has not always been the case, as one need only look to the innovators of modern science to realize the truth.

Modern scientists have become to specialized to be called arbiters of truth. Evolutionary theory has demonstrably turned off their minds.

Jesus Christ, being God, is the source of all wisdom. Applying knowledge separate from Him is erroneous by definition.

Isa 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name [is] Holy; I dwell in the high and holy [place], with him also [that is] of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

Dan 2:20 Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his:

[durasell]

Stay away from those promising multiple virgins in heaven. There is an inherent flaw in this so-called "reward."

A) Do you really want to go through making the first time special 72 times? I think not.

B)Statistically speaking, any number of those 72 will turn out to be stalkers. Hey, being stalked through eternity can't be a picnic. Figure 87 billion (that's billion with a "b") hang ups on your answering machine late at night.

However, give serious thought to a religion promising Vegas cocktail waitresses.

[RunningWolf]

Modern scientists have become to specialized to be called arbiters of truth. Evolutionary theory has demonstrably turned off their minds.

I say that in their minds, they are the arbiters of truth.

They have been seduced by evo theory, and to some degree cosmology also.

Wolf

[RaceBannon]

Whatever.

You guys need new material

Your worn, tired repetition of evolution being a science is wearing thin.

It is a belief system nmasquerading as science.

ID is more science than evo, while Creationism at least is honest about what it is: SCIENCE that proves the Bible correct!

[Coyoteman]

ID is more science than evo, while Creationism at least is honest about what it is: SCIENCE that proves the Bible correct!

Creationism is at least honest--its a religious belief.

Modern ID is a lie start to finish, as it was hatched immediately after the Edwards Supreme Court decision of 1987 (other forms of ID go back millennia, but they are not pushing Creationism into the schools). See the The Wedge Strategy for details.

And now for your viewing pleasure--Evidence for evolution:

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Fossil: KNM-WT 15000

Site: Nariokotome, West Turkana, Kenya (1)

Discovered By: K. Kimeu, 1984 (1)

Estimated Age of Fossil: 1.6 mya * determined by Stratigraphic, faunal & radiometric data (1, 4)

Species Name: Homo ergaster (1, 7, 8), Homo erectus (3, 4, 7, 10), Homo erectus ergaster (25)

Gender: Male (based on pelvis, browridge) (1, 8, 9)

Cranial Capacity: 880 (909 as adult) cc (1)

Information: Most complete early hominid skeleton (80 bones and skull) (1, 8)

Interpretation: Hairless and dark pigmented body (based on environment, limb proportions) (7, 8, 9). Juvenile (9-12 based on 2nd molar eruption and unfused growth plates) (1, 3, 4, 7, 8). Juvenile (8 years old based on recent studies on tooth development) (27). Incapable of speech (based on narrowing of spinal canal in thoracic region) (1)

Nickname: Turkana Boy (1), Nariokotome Boy

See original source for notes:
Source: http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/fossilview.php?fid=38

[RunningWolf]

// evolution is a belief system masquerading as science.//

I have said essentially the same thing

[durasell]

What is the ultimate goal of the ID folks?

[Coyoteman]

What is the ultimate goal of the ID folks?

If we are to take them (the modern ID movement) at their word, it is all spelled out in The Wedge Strategy.

[dread78645]

The Lunatic is in the hall placemark

[durasell]

To see intelligent design theory as the dominant perspective in science.
To see design theory application in specific fields, including molecular biology, biochemistry, paleontology, physics and cosmology in the natural sciences, psychology, ethics, politics, theology and philosophy in the humanities; to see its innuence in the fine arts.
To see design theory permeate our religious, cultural, moral and political life.




Absolutely unrealistic to the point of disengenuous. My take on the thing -- and I've been following the FR debate on it carefully -- is that they'll get a couple of school boards in a couple of states (say 12) to adopt ID. This will hurt America's standing in the scientific community, but not much. Mostly it'll just hurt the kids who go to school in those States as well as the States themselves. Along the way somebody, somewhere will be making money off the conflict.

Science always triumphs. It may triumph in China in twenty years, but ID is not going to slow down scientific progress.

[RunningWolf]

The Lunatic is in the hall placemark

Okay thanks, don't ping yourself, everyone already knows, okay??

You can have a side conversation that you are going to ignore someone or whatnot. Thats the evo way!! LOL

[dread78645]

Okay thanks, don't ping yourself, everyone already knows, okay??

So you've been here all of four months, and you don't know how to placemark a thread yet?

[Dimensio]

So you've been here all of four months, and you don't know how to placemark a thread yet?

He's just looking for an excuse to attack people who don't agree with him. He never has any rational arguments, so when he can't think of a good lie he just goes off on bizarre and whacko tangents.

As for me, I'm getting drunk. Er,drunker.

[dread78645]

As for me, I'm getting drunk. Er,drunker.

Another tall boy or two left here.

Carry on.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

That's why I know you'll agree with me that the "MARTIANS-ACTUALLY-CREATED-US" theory must be taught as well, along with Evolution and Intelligent Design.

What is taught?
1) Humans evolved from apes.
2) Life came from a primordial chemical soup.

Both are false. A mere disclaimer that the above are controversial theories and there are alternative views causes the athiest secular humanist satan loving Christian-hating American God-hating scumbags to come out of the woodwork to kill it because it endangers the minds of children which they'd like to control. Just like the queer agenda.

[RunningWolf]

Have a Healthy Holy Happy Prosperous Year placemarker, wolf out.

Wolf

[Dimensio]

Both are false.

Please demonstrate as much.

A mere disclaimer that the above are controversial theories and there are alternative views causes the athiest secular humanist satan loving Christian-hating American God-hating scumbags

And yet another creationist dishonestly claims that all who accept evolution and recognize ID as non-science are atheists.

[Thatcherite]

You can have a side conversation that you are going to ignore someone or whatnot.

Ah yes, side conversations. Pot... Kettle... Black. You would know. You only appear to be here to cheerlead for the biggest and most shameless liars and fools you can find, as long as they support creationism. It appears to be impossible for a creationist to post so moronically that they won't attract your support.

BTW, I answered your questions about Piltdown Doctoral theses in the other thread, but you never did come through with a list of the ones you found.... Par for the creationist course. Actually perhaps you did come through with them all, because maybe the list looks like this:

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