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New York Says Choose Life License Plate Could Lead to "Road Rage"
LifeNews.com ^ | December 30, 2005 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 12/31/2005 3:31:33 AM PST by rhema

The state of New York is attempting to stifle a lawsuit seeking to make “Choose Life” license plates available. Although the lawsuit cites the free speech protection of the first amendment, New York Assistant Solicitor General Jennifer Grace Miller told the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals that the statement “Choose Life” could lead to road rage.

Judge Dennis Jacobs agreed, suggesting that allowing the phrase could open the door to messages from extremist groups. “If you win, then white supremacist organizations and the Ku Klux Klan can have license plates,” said Judge Jacobs. “There'd be a lot of road rage following that.”

"This case should be of great interest and concern to all New Yorkers, whether they are pro-life or not, because New York has always vigorously defended freedom of speech and equal treatment under the law for every citizen, not just some, " said Dr. Elizabeth Rex, President of The Children First Foundation.

"What is utterly and 'patently offensive' is that Governor Pataki, Attorney General Spitzer, and the DMV are all involved in violating the Constitution, abusing their political offices, and wasting tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars defending an absolutely egregious case of government censorship and discrimination," added Dr. Rex.

The state argued, in a written submission to the appeals court, that the Children First Foundation's plate was rejected in order “to avoid any appearance of governmental support for either side in the divisive national abortion debate.”

The New York State DMV has approved over 200 plates for organizations including labor unions, and religious organizations.

The "Choose Life" license plate originated in Florida and has been approved in 12 other states. More than 60,000 motorists have now raised over $5 million dollars to fund pregnancy resource centers and maternity homes.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abortion; chooselife; lawsuit; licenseplate; prolife
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1 posted on 12/31/2005 3:31:35 AM PST by rhema
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To: cpforlife.org; BibChr; Caleb1411; MHGinTN

2 posted on 12/31/2005 3:32:46 AM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema
New York Assistant Solicitor General Jennifer Grace Miller told the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals that the statement “Choose Life” could lead to road rage.

If the phrase "choose life" causes you to devolve into road rage, you have no business driving a car.

I see lots of statements on bumper stickers that tick me off, does that give me excuse to offer violence to others? Cause I've been chilling until now...

3 posted on 12/31/2005 3:36:11 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: rhema

how about, "Kill a Commie for Mommie", i wonder if they would allow that. NY is such a commie state. I live here and see what is going on.


4 posted on 12/31/2005 3:40:01 AM PST by rambo316 (The democRATS give aid and comfort to the enemy.)
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To: rhema
If this causes road rage, someone needs to "get a life" or have a plate that says "stupid people shouldn't breed".
5 posted on 12/31/2005 3:44:47 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: rambo316
"New York Assistant Solicitor General Jennifer Grace Miller told the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals that the statement “Choose Life” could lead to road rage."

Yeah, Jennifer. Put up or shut up. Exhibit A: There have been pro-life bumper stickers for decades. Please cite the number of cases where there have been accidents or other violent acts in which a pro-life bumper sticker was a contributing factor to the event.

6 posted on 12/31/2005 3:45:31 AM PST by cincinnati65 (Just up the road a piece.......)
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To: rhema

I guess Jennifer is saying that many pro-abortion people are seriously unhinged.


7 posted on 12/31/2005 3:47:08 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: cincinnati65

Soethin' else isn't it. It is a disgrace.


8 posted on 12/31/2005 3:47:38 AM PST by rambo316 (The democRATS give aid and comfort to the enemy.)
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To: rhema
I once had a bumper sticker with a picture of Josef Stalin with the caption "Vote Union". Pretty ballsy for someone in Massachusetts.

Fortunately for me most of the pro union idiots didn't recognize Stalin, (morons), so me and my car were safe.
9 posted on 12/31/2005 3:48:06 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Iraqis thank our troops more often than Democrats.)
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To: rhema

Another veiled threat of violence, a method whose popularity is growing among the left. Just like Elizabeth Edwards' statement "there won't be any riots if we're elected".


10 posted on 12/31/2005 3:48:44 AM PST by KStorm (Currently residing in the NO TIN ZONE)
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To: rhema
"the statement “Choose Life” could lead to road rage."

Quite possible, given how intolerant liberals are when it comes to dissenting opinions. Better pass a law allowing folks to carry a concealed weapon so that folks can defend themselves from those enraged liberals.
11 posted on 12/31/2005 3:49:13 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: rhema

The Pro-Death crowd will just have to learn how to be 'tolerant' of other viewpoints.


12 posted on 12/31/2005 3:50:40 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: rhema
the Children First Foundation's plate was rejected in order “to avoid any appearance of governmental support for either side in the divisive national abortion debate.”

To be fair, they should allow abortion lovers to have a plate that says, "Choose Death"
13 posted on 12/31/2005 3:50:50 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: rhema

They allow it for Major League Baseball, INC.

But not for my company, not for yours, and not for unborn babaies.


14 posted on 12/31/2005 3:52:51 AM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: jimtorr
I guess Jennifer is saying that many pro-abortion people are seriously unhinged.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner here. Pro abort people are ready willing and able to kill innocent children, why not road rage? It's only logical. If road rage is a problem in NY because of Choose Life license plates, there needs to be serious changes in driver's licensing procedures.

15 posted on 12/31/2005 3:55:31 AM PST by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant Pancake on my Head")
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To: rhema

Choose life is a trigger for rage, we should all be outraged at the murder of innocents.

When I see a NOW sticker or an ACLU sticker or even a Kerry for President sticker (some of those still around) - I will admit it gets me raging a little, it just strengthens and tempers my resolve to keep fighting these friggin lefty loons.

This is just a case of the loony left attempting to cast pro-life as radicals, well I say to hell with them, let's hunt them down and burn their houses down (where did that come from) boy that rage thing can really get carried away (sarc off)

Lefty loonballs cause road rage, it is a medical fact that by the very existence of liberals it is proof that early settlers where having sex with barnyard animals.


16 posted on 12/31/2005 3:59:51 AM PST by kentj
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To: HEY4QDEMS
I once had a bumper sticker with a picture of Josef Stalin with the caption "Vote Union". Pretty ballsy for someone in Massachusetts. Fortunately for me most of the pro union idiots didn't recognize Stalin, (morons), so me and my car were safe.

Sadly, in Massachusetts, Stalin is probably revered as a father figure. I'm sure the libs didn't get the humor!

17 posted on 12/31/2005 4:16:00 AM PST by 6SJ7
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To: rhema
The New York State DMV has approved over 200 plates for organizations including labor unions, and religious organizations.

A similar case has been already been tested in Virginia, where a court ruled that the commonwealth had to allow the Sons of Confederate Veterans to purchase and use their own plates. Specifically, the ruling said that if a state or commonwealth allowed some plates for activist organizations, then it pretty much had to allow all. So, I suspect that New York will lose this one under the Stare Decisis standard.

18 posted on 12/31/2005 4:16:02 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: rhema

I suppose "Right Power" plates are out of the question too?!? ;-)


19 posted on 12/31/2005 4:16:55 AM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: rhema
This is insane...and it's got to stop!

To even consider banning a this license plate is a slap in the face to even man, woman, and child who's fought and defended the idea of America. How could anyone who is sane in the first place be offended by the phrase "Choose Life"?

It might cause road rage? Well, maybe it should!!

20 posted on 12/31/2005 4:18:02 AM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: Big Giant Head

"there need to be serious changes in driver's licensing procedures."

For starters, how about licensing liberals to drive only on roads leading out of the country?


21 posted on 12/31/2005 4:20:27 AM PST by dsc (Islamic sexual violence against women should be treated as the repressive epidemic it is.)
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To: 6SJ7
Sadly, in Massachusetts, Stalin is probably revered as a father figure.

True, I gotta get the hell outta here.
22 posted on 12/31/2005 4:23:43 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Iraqis thank our troops more often than Democrats.)
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To: sirchtruth

"It might cause road rage? Well, maybe it should!!"

It's bullying, plain and simple. You see it anywhere liberals raise their ugly mugs.

Years ago, I got kicked off a couple of BBSs on the grounds that my comments provoked liberals to bad behavior. Same sort of thing. Speech must be curtailed, because it drives libs into mouth-frothing convulsions.


23 posted on 12/31/2005 4:27:33 AM PST by dsc (Islamic sexual violence against women should be treated as the repressive epidemic it is.)
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To: rambo316
how about, "Kill a Commie for Mommie", i wonder if they would allow that.

Of course not--it's obvious incitement to violence against NY state officials.

24 posted on 12/31/2005 4:32:09 AM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS
Fortunately for me most of the pro union idiots didn't recognize Stalin, (morons), so me and my car were safe.

They thought he was Jimmy Hoffa with a beard?

25 posted on 12/31/2005 4:37:48 AM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Fenris6
I see lots of statements on bumper stickers that tick me off, does that give me excuse to offer violence to others? Cause I've been chilling until now...

They continue to adorn the vehicles of the sore-loser Kerry crowd.

26 posted on 12/31/2005 4:38:59 AM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: BallyBill
If this causes road rage, someone needs to "get a life" or have a plate that says "stupid people shouldn't breed".

Maybe the obtuse pro-choicers would construe that as an ad for Planned Parenthood.

27 posted on 12/31/2005 4:40:34 AM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema
Judge Dennis Jacobs agreed, suggesting that allowing the phrase could open the door to messages from extremist groups. “If you win, then white supremacist organizations and the Ku Klux Klan can have license plates,” said Judge Jacobs. “There'd be a lot of road rage following that.”

I'm not in favor of these tags because I don't think tags should be political, but this statement offends the hell out of me. To compare pro-life people to the Ku Klux Klan is waaaaay out of bounds.

28 posted on 12/31/2005 4:41:32 AM PST by libertylover (Bush spied. Terrorists died. Democrats cried.)
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To: dsc

"Speech must be curtailed, because it drives libs into mouth-frothing convulsions."

This could make an interesting tag line.

Let's see if I get this straight. You can tag your car with:

Save the Whales, Protect the Florida Panther, Sea Turtles, Forests, Black Bear,....

God forbid choose to Protect a Human Life! It may cause road rage.

There.


29 posted on 12/31/2005 4:42:16 AM PST by poobear (Imagine a world of liberal silence!)
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To: Ninian Dryhope
Quite possible, given how intolerant liberals are when it comes to dissenting opinions. Better pass a law allowing folks to carry a concealed weapon so that folks can defend themselves from those enraged liberals.

And be sure to sport your NRA bumper sticker, a la "Owner packing heat."

30 posted on 12/31/2005 4:42:38 AM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema
I would love to have one of those on my jeep. Solicitor General Jennifer Grace Miller, please, let me worry about the road rage that will be unleashed against me for daring to state my views, I'll chance it. I'm a New York driver, I know how to deal with road rage.
31 posted on 12/31/2005 4:43:23 AM PST by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Ninian Dryhope
To be fair, they should allow abortion lovers to have a plate that says, "Choose Death"

Or:

"Pro-Choice: Will Kill for Sex"

32 posted on 12/31/2005 4:53:51 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: dsc
Years ago, I got kicked off a couple of BBSs on the grounds that my comments provoked liberals to bad behavior. Same sort of thing. Speech must be curtailed, because it drives libs into mouth-frothing convulsions.

LOL. Same here.

33 posted on 12/31/2005 4:56:43 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: dsc
My hubby just came home the other night with the car keyed all around the whole thing, like someone had gone off the deep end. He was so angry,and I know its cause of his'' Bush /Cheney'' bumper stickers that he refuses to take off his car.The libs have gone completely insane!
34 posted on 12/31/2005 5:00:52 AM PST by Bush gal in LA
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To: Talking_Mouse

The pro abort lefties operate through hate and intimidation. Of course some of them will be drive to rage by pro life messages. But I think the pro life drivers are willing to take the risk.


35 posted on 12/31/2005 5:01:57 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: rhema
Judge Dennis Jacobs agreed, suggesting that allowing the phrase could open the door to messages from extremist groups. “If you win, then white supremacist organizations and the Ku Klux Klan can have license plates,” said Judge Jacobs. “There'd be a lot of road rage following that.”

This is what Liberals see as moral equivalence,; if you are against the slaughter of innocents children, you are a KKK member.

These people will find themselves in Hell someday, and only then will the clue light come on (or maybe not even then).


36 posted on 12/31/2005 5:02:38 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: rhema
Geez, I thought road rage was a requirement for NY drivers.
37 posted on 12/31/2005 5:17:48 AM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: rhema
Of course, the Choose Life plate doesn't necesarily even force a political opinion - only an appeal to consider the life of the unborn to women who already have the right to choose. How can you choose life if "choice" didn't already exist?

The pro-abort crowd ought to be thrilled that "choice" is invoked. But the only acceptable choice for them seems to be the destruction of the unborn.

38 posted on 12/31/2005 5:30:44 AM PST by fwdude (The worst advice you can give some people is "Be yourself")
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To: rhema
Then why didn't they ban Gore-Lieberman bumper stickers?

ML/NJ

39 posted on 12/31/2005 5:41:58 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: rhema

i hear that the ny state legislature is ready to pass a law that all license plates must have smiling schmuckie schumers picture on them with the slogan murder the innocent.


40 posted on 12/31/2005 6:01:58 AM PST by JohnLongIsland
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To: rhema
Just another attempt by the government to treat us like children. Isn't Pataki a Republican?
41 posted on 12/31/2005 6:07:23 AM PST by manwiththehands (My wish for the new year: I wish Republicans were running the country.)
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To: Bush gal in LA

"The libs have gone completely insane!"

Have you read what G. K. Chesterton said about them a hundred years ago?

http://www.dur.ac.uk/martin.ward/gkc/books/index.html#BOOKS

Orthodoxy, Chapter II, The Maniac.


42 posted on 12/31/2005 6:11:47 AM PST by dsc (Islamic sexual violence against women should be treated as the repressive epidemic it is.)
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To: rhema
allowing the phrase could open the door to messages from extremist groups

Only to a liberal is infanticide the "moderate" course of action. If you think babies should actually come out of the womb alive and in one piece, you are like the Nazis!

43 posted on 12/31/2005 6:14:35 AM PST by montag813
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To: rhema
New York Assistant Solicitor General Jennifer Grace Miller told the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals that the statement “Choose Life” could lead to road rage.

This is Pataki's bitch, isn't it? I will be so happy to see that drooling moron and his abortion-funding vampire of a wife driven from politics.

44 posted on 12/31/2005 6:15:58 AM PST by montag813
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To: rhema

You know these people are hypocrites when you know they would have had no objections to a request for "Support Choice" license plates.


45 posted on 12/31/2005 6:33:13 AM PST by Wuli
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To: rhema

Looking at that plate, its easy to see how it would make someone want to kill.


46 posted on 12/31/2005 6:58:55 AM PST by SampleMan
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To: jimtorr

That is true. Also, many pro-life people are seriously armed.


47 posted on 12/31/2005 7:06:29 AM PST by 308MBR (Not only older, but bolder. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.)
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To: Coleus; NYer; firebrand

Ping!


48 posted on 12/31/2005 7:07:08 AM PST by Clemenza (Smartest words ever written by a Communist: "Show me the way to the next Whiskey Bar")
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To: HEY4QDEMS
I once had a bumper sticker with a picture of Josef Stalin with the caption "Vote Union". Pretty ballsy for someone in Massachusetts.

The picture of Stalin was probably mistaken for that of Hoffa. snicker-snicker
49 posted on 12/31/2005 7:14:56 AM PST by i_dont_chat (Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers. [Stolen from Mark Steyn].)
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To: dsc
Years ago, I got kicked off a couple of BBSs on the grounds that my comments provoked liberals to bad behavior.

What's a BBS?

My CNN LIES bumper sticker (the only one on the car) gets me the occasional finger (from what I can only assume are liberals).

50 posted on 12/31/2005 7:18:14 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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