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Dalglish: Justice Dept. Probe of 'NYT' Shows Need for Shield Law (Journalists worried?)
Editor and Publisher ^ | 12/30/05 | Joe Strupp

Posted on 12/31/2005 6:43:53 AM PST by HonduGOP

Dalglish: Justice Dept. Probe of 'NYT' Shows Need for Shield Law

By Joe Strupp

Published: December 30, 2005 1:11 PM ET

NEW YORK Lucy Dalglish, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, expressed outrage at the Justice Department investigation into who leaked classified information to The New York Times about the Bush administration's controversial domestic spying program, saying it is even more serious than the Valerie Plame probe.

"This is much more of a classic whistleblower than the Plame case was and that is why the stakes are much higher," Dalglish said. "The public needed to know about it and that is a classic reason why reporters need to protect their sources and it is even more reason why there is a need to have a federal shield law."

Dalglish believes that the seriousness of this case could drive regular citizens to speak out against such investigations and push more for a federal source protection bill to be passed by Congress. "Hopefully the public will begin to understand," she said.

Times spokeswoman Catherine Mathis declined to comment on the Justice Department investigation and said no Times officials would be commenting. Executive Editor Bill Keller did not return calls seeking comment because, his office said, he was out on vacation


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: doj; dojprobe; homelandsecurity; leaks; news; spying
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1 posted on 12/31/2005 6:43:54 AM PST by HonduGOP
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To: HonduGOP
Too bad for you New York Times, whistle-blower does not fit in this case.

A whistleblower must also limit the disclosure to a member of Congress or staff of the executive or legislative branch holding the appropriate security clearance and authorized to receive the information disclosed.

2 posted on 12/31/2005 6:46:55 AM PST by mware (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL.")
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To: HonduGOP

With freedom comes responsibility.


3 posted on 12/31/2005 6:47:03 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: HonduGOP

Lucy Dalglish, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, expressed outrage at the Justice Department investigation into who leaked classified information to The New York Times


She should be arrested and thrown in Jail.
Just another stinkin Commie Pinko.


4 posted on 12/31/2005 6:48:13 AM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: HonduGOP

"The public needed to know about it and that is a classic reason why reporters need to protect their sources and it is even more reason why there is a need to have a federal shield law."

No... the public did not need to know, and for SURE, Al Quaida did not need to know.

The reporter should be asked for their source, and if refused, put in jail until the traitor that exposed this national security information is found.


5 posted on 12/31/2005 6:48:42 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: HonduGOP

re: seriousness of this case could drive regular citizens to speak out

Certainly makes me want to speak out! Find whoever did this and, with proper consideration of their civil rights of course, throw the book at them.


6 posted on 12/31/2005 6:48:48 AM PST by jwpjr
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To: HonduGOP

"This is much more of a -classic whistleblower-( insert Treason) than the Plame case was and that is why the stakes are much higher," Dalglish said.
The fecal material will fly on this one!


7 posted on 12/31/2005 6:49:07 AM PST by primatreat (Alzheimer's in all its glory is knocking at my door/)
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To: HonduGOP

They're they go again with their "Whistleblower" talking points...


8 posted on 12/31/2005 6:50:09 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: mware

I agree, Mware. It doesnt apply here. Leaking classified info is reprehensible enough without doing to injure someone else politically..


9 posted on 12/31/2005 6:51:18 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: HonduGOP

No, the public didn't need to know. Yeah, there needs to be an investigation and jail time - of the congressman who leaked it and the Slimes that ran with it.


10 posted on 12/31/2005 6:51:20 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: HonduGOP

Yes, and I've heard other "journalists" whine about "the chilling effect" on "journalism" that this investigation will have. This isn't about journalism. It's about printing national secrets that could (and has, if you count past stories) cause many deaths.


11 posted on 12/31/2005 6:51:27 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: mware

Lucy Dalglish is remarkably ignorant. However, ignorance, bias, laziness, and carelessness seem to be rampant amongst the members of the press these days.


12 posted on 12/31/2005 6:51:49 AM PST by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: Paloma_55

The push for a shield law, however you feel about the merits, is doomed to failre, becuase if one does favor it..you then have to immediately deal with the next question.."What's the definition of a reporter?" Would Matt Drudge qualify? How about someone who just blogs?..IOW..the MSM is over..kaput..this is their death knell.


13 posted on 12/31/2005 6:51:53 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: mware
The public needed to know about it and that is a classic reason why reporters need to protect their sources and it is even more reason why there is a need to have a federal shield law.

This is actually a classic reason why the public does not respect the press. A "federal shield law" has no chance.

14 posted on 12/31/2005 6:52:36 AM PST by RedRover
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To: HonduGOP

Good thing I'm not running things, because I'd take that reporter to Gitmo and waterboard him until he gives up the leaker, then toss his ass in jail for 30 years just for good measure.


15 posted on 12/31/2005 6:53:09 AM PST by skimask (I'll march through Hell wearing shorts soaked in gasoline, if needed to get the job done)
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To: HonduGOP

Dalglish believes that the seriousness of this case could drive regular citizens to speak out against such investigations and push more for a federal source protection bill to be passed by Congress. "Hopefully the public will begin to understand," she said.

Note to radical leftists, start demonstrations now!


16 posted on 12/31/2005 6:53:12 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: HonduGOP
"This is much more of a classic whistleblower than the Plame case was and that is why the stakes are much higher," Dalglish said.

Argle bargle.

17 posted on 12/31/2005 6:54:36 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: HonduGOP

Maybe after they throw a few of these knuckleheads in jail they will take this war seriously and not as just another excercise to score a few political points.


18 posted on 12/31/2005 6:54:45 AM PST by Nateman
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To: LtKerst
"...Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press..."

Clue to Dalglish and the RCFFOTP--if we lose this war, how much "freedom of the press" do you suppose we'll have? Maybe Dalglish et al should give some consideration to what's at stake. Hint: it's more than causing problems for the President. It's our very existence.

19 posted on 12/31/2005 6:55:02 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: HonduGOP

Ummm NO E&P. You do NOT get to demand the 1st Amendment does NOT protect "journalists" when you think the Plame-Wilson slander is going to "get Bush" then turn around and demand to be shielded because one of your pet stooges breaks dozens of Laws to leak SERIOUS classified info. IF the National Security issues involved in the mythical leak of Plame's CIA status OVERRULED the failed media's need to be shielded in the Affair Du Plame, the SAME principal CERTAINLY applies in this FAR more serious breach of classified info. You sowed the win American Leftist, reap now the whirlwind.


20 posted on 12/31/2005 6:55:29 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: ken5050

This is national security.

It is no different than announcing plans to invade Normandy in 1944. It gave the enemy information that was useful and damaged the US. The claims that Bush Administration were acting illegally have already been shown wrong and this is why we can not allow people to disclose top security information just because THEY think its OK.


21 posted on 12/31/2005 6:56:12 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: skimask

Just so you don't put panties on their heads. That would be inhumane. (Note: that was sarcasm.)


22 posted on 12/31/2005 6:56:17 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: HonduGOP
Another piece of Liberal Propaganda. America is at war and they are traitors. If there is something illegal to be revealed let them take it to Congress instead of giving the enemy aid. Our problem is that our diverse nation is not made up of Americans,it is made up of those trying to overthrow America while sucking away all of our wealth.If one does not want th be an American they should not come here. For those of us whose ancestors have paid the price and we are nothing more than Americans our identity and our way of life is being snuffed out. We in effect are prisoners in our own country and it is time to take up arms if necessary and take our country back.Enough is enough.
23 posted on 12/31/2005 6:56:38 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: HonduGOP

Is mccain on vacation? He is usually the first a-hole to come out in support of the MSM and the Times.


24 posted on 12/31/2005 6:56:49 AM PST by conservative barking moonbat
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To: HonduGOP

These Effin people have lost their effin minds.

No secret is safe ,they fall over themselves to prove which is the biggest traitor. It has often been said that a journalist would sell their mother for a story, How can it be denied when the Washington Post and the NY Times have already sold out their country.


25 posted on 12/31/2005 6:57:19 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Nateman
Maybe after they throw a few of these knuckleheads in jail

I am afraid you would have to execute a few to wake the rest up. These clowns are Political Activists first, any other concerns like DECENCY, CITIZENSHIP etc

26 posted on 12/31/2005 6:57:34 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: jwpjr

100 percent agree.


27 posted on 12/31/2005 6:59:22 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ken5050
We need to prosecute the NY times and the person who leaked. We need to realize reporters such as these are people of the world first and US citizens second. They have no allegence to the US. If a high level Senator or Federal Judge goes to jail for 20 years we will finally get people to understand we are at war.
Who is the NY Times to decide to jeopardize our lives because they disagree with the President? They should be put on notice. No more warnings and pleading. If they are going to release sensitive material, shut them down. They are a propaganda rag.
28 posted on 12/31/2005 7:00:42 AM PST by paguch
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To: HonduGOP

Lucy belongs in jail! Where is the outrage at the release of classified information? Scumbags who illegally obtain and publish such info make a few bucks for their newspapers, but probably caused untold damage to the country and lives of others. IMHO release of classified information trumps the shield law! Maybe Lucy is guilty of something!


29 posted on 12/31/2005 7:00:57 AM PST by olezip
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To: RedRover
Hmm Where is the People's Right to Know in the Constitution?

This is the self serving propaganda of the Failed Media. they do NOT have "a right to know". That is WHY we are a Constitutional Republic and NOT a Democracy. We elect people to deal with certain societal needs like NATIONAL SECURITY, we do NOT elect any "journalist" to anything. They are NOTHING but a self selected, self important bunch of arrogant twits who have NO official standing to do ANYTHING on our behalf.

30 posted on 12/31/2005 7:01:47 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: HonduGOP
In the eyes of the media::

The Bush Administration spying on US citizens talking to terrorists overseas to protect the country:

EVIL

The Clinton Administration spying on US citizens:

NO BIG DEAL

The MSM spying on the government and reporting classified information that benefits America's enemies:

GOOD

No wonder growing millions despise the MSM.

31 posted on 12/31/2005 7:05:07 AM PST by Semi Civil Servant (The Main Stream Media: Al-Qaeda's most effective spy network.)
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To: MizSterious
Just so you don't put panties on their heads. That would be inhumane. (Note: that was sarcasm.)

The thought of the scum in the "Journalist" community being forced form a naked pig pile by jailer with a GED makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

32 posted on 12/31/2005 7:05:45 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: HonduGOP

Lucy A. Dalglish
Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press
Arlington, VA
(703) 807-2100
ldalglish@rcfp.org


33 posted on 12/31/2005 7:08:16 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: MNJohnnie

Well said! The "right to know" serves as cover for all manner of abuses.


34 posted on 12/31/2005 7:08:51 AM PST by RedRover
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To: HonduGOP

They have a shield law, if they turn over their "sources" when a crime is committed then they are shielded from going to jail.


35 posted on 12/31/2005 7:10:11 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: HonduGOP
The media thinks it's above the law.

If you break the law, then you go to jail. If the law is bad, then change it, but don't create artificial impediments to prosecution if someone violates the law.

36 posted on 12/31/2005 7:10:39 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: MizSterious

"Just so you don't put panties on their heads."

I'd put the panties in his mouth, panties as big as a king size pillowcase, just before i start waterboarding him.


37 posted on 12/31/2005 7:11:12 AM PST by skimask (I'll march through Hell wearing shorts soaked in gasoline, if needed to get the job done)
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To: HonduGOP
A shield law for the press would create a "safe haven" for passing classified and otherwise sensitive information. Pass the information through a reporter, and the reporter asserts "shield law" to protect the spy on the inside.

There is no need for a shield law. As we saw in the Plame case, the name of the source is not published, but is kept secret (e.g., by the grand jury) unless there is a violation of law.

38 posted on 12/31/2005 7:13:43 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: HonduGOP

The NSA wirwtapping isn't something Bush should be held accountable for; it's something he was elected to do - protect this county!


39 posted on 12/31/2005 7:14:12 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: HonduGOP
Dalglish believes that the seriousness of this case could drive regular citizens to speak out against such investigations and push more for a federal source protection bill to be passed by Congress. "Hopefully the public will begin to understand," she said.

This spokesperson is in the liberal MSM echo chamber. The citizens have already realized that the press prints information that is a threat to national security not to protect citizen rights, but to advance the liberal Democrat political agenda.

GWB's approval ratings went up after the possibly treasonous NYT publication of state secrets, which must have given the anti-American MSM elements pause: the expected political outrage did not (and has not) occurred!

What do you know? Americans want the presidency to do what it must constitutionally do to defend the nation, and they are willing to let him do it!

The answer to "Journalists worried?" is, thankfully, "YES!" I hope the leakers will be found, tried, and if found guilty, imprisoned. I also hope a few "journalists" spend some time in lockup for refusing to reveal their sources (since they can't be jailed for publishing what they were given illegally).

40 posted on 12/31/2005 7:15:31 AM PST by TheGeezer
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To: HonduGOP

The press wants a shield law so they (with impunity) can make it all up.


41 posted on 12/31/2005 7:17:33 AM PST by auboy
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To: HonduGOP

The public understands there is no super class of people reporting on daily events that is immune to the law. Newsies have no special right to withhold sources in national security matters.


42 posted on 12/31/2005 7:19:45 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: Clara Lou

I think you are far too kind to attribute her speech to ignorance, carelessness or laziness. I think she is giving us the leftist propaganda line, and in doing so, hoping it to make it the "truth" as the public sees it. Unfortunately, this has and continues to work well with many who are too ignorant, careless or lazy to think for themselves. Remember, the truth is "relative", and therefore can be manipulated as needed to bring about the "correct" conclusion. Very ugly stuff.


43 posted on 12/31/2005 7:23:23 AM PST by SuzyQue
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To: LtKerst
It's simply not believable that all these reporters are unaware that there's a war on. Instead I think we should look into their finances and see if Saddam Hussein's people are paying them off.

Then, take them out and hang them.

44 posted on 12/31/2005 7:23:26 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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45 posted on 12/31/2005 7:27:30 AM PST by federal
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To: muawiyah
It's waterboard time for these traitors if they don't give up their sources:


Dana Priest-Washington Post


James Risen-NY Times


Eric Lichtblau-NY Times
46 posted on 12/31/2005 7:28:15 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: HonduGOP
Not no, but HELL NO! on this shield law nonsense.

Once these "journalists" are protected by that, there will really be nothing to stop them from making up everything they write.

47 posted on 12/31/2005 7:28:32 AM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: SuzyQue

I certainly didn't mean to be kind. She's got a will of iron if she's willing to make herself appear so ignorant so publically.


48 posted on 12/31/2005 7:29:25 AM PST by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: Let's Roll
A shield law for journalists should be accompanied by some kind of work standard and training. They'll never accept that...
49 posted on 12/31/2005 7:31:38 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: HonduGOP
I find it interesting that surrogates are now doing all the talking but the NYT is so quiet. They're either nervous and circling the wagons or planning a Battle of the Bulge-type offense.
50 posted on 12/31/2005 7:39:33 AM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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