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Iranian Alert - December 31, 2005 - Turkish Press: CIA told Ankara that Iran has nuclear weapons
Regime Change Iran ^ | 12.31.2005 | DoctorZin

Posted on 12/31/2005 4:28:06 PM PST by DoctorZIn

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Turkish Press: Goss Reportedly told Ankara that Iran has nuclear weapons

TurkishPress:

During his recent visit to Ankara, CIA Director Porter Goss reportedly brought three dossiers on Iran to Ankara. Goss is said to have asked for Turkey’s support for Washington’s policy against Iran’s nuclear activities, charging that Tehran had supported terrorism and taken part in activities against Turkey.

Goss also asked Ankara to be ready for a possible US air operation against Iran and Syria.

Goss, who came to Ankara just after FBI Director Robert Mueller’s visit, brought up Iran’s alleged attempts to develop nuclear weapons. It was said that Goss first told Ankara that Iran has nuclear weapons and this situation was creating a huge threat for both Turkey and other states in the region. Diplomatic sources say that Washington wants Turkey to coordinate with its Iran policies. The second dossier is about Iran’s stance on terrorism. The CIA argued that Iran was supporting terrorism, the PKK and al-Qaeda. The third had to do with Iran’s alleged stance against Ankara. Goss said that Tehran sees Turkey as an enemy and would try to “export its regime.”

DoctorZin:

In a little noticed change in the Turkish version of the German report, it added that the CIA is convinced that Iran already has nuclear weapons. If addition is accurate, it would explain a lot. The flurry of reports emanating out of Germany include: UPI, Monsters & Critics and Spiegel Online.

  • Reuters reported that a senior Iranian official said: Iran's agreement to discuss Moscow's plan to enrich uranium in Russia does not mean that Tehran has abandoned its drive to enrich uranium on its own soil.
  • Reuters reported that Russia's foreign ministry confirmed on Friday that a top envoy had talked to Iranian officials to discuss a Russian proposal to enrich uranium for the Islamic Republic.
  • Rasha Saad, Al-Ahram looks at the Arab reaction to the new Iranian President.
  • Ardeshir Dolat reported that a young Iranian girl has been sentenced to death by hanging.
  • Matthias Kuntzel, Transatlantic Intelligencer, FrontPageMag.com reported on the problems with German's recent confrontation over Ahamdinejad's holocausts statements.
  • Tino, Truck and Barter reported that the Iranian embassy in Sweden seems to be actively looking for holocaust deniers in Sweden. What is going on?
  • And finally, DoctorZin reported that as of today, in a little over a year, we have now posted over 6,000 news posts on Iran. The good news is that the mainstream media is noticing our work here.


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1 posted on 12/31/2005 4:28:12 PM PST by DoctorZIn
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2 posted on 12/31/2005 4:29:16 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn

http://www.farsnews.com/imgrep.php?nn=8410100502

Check the above links for some pictures on today's protest by the workers in Tehran

They set the buildings ablaze


3 posted on 12/31/2005 4:29:23 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: DoctorZIn

Why do I get the feeling this is a bit...hyped?


4 posted on 12/31/2005 4:34:13 PM PST by HHKrepublican_2 (OP Spread the Truth....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1535158/posts)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

Because if Iran really had nuclear weapons, Israel would already have been nuked.


5 posted on 12/31/2005 4:35:40 PM PST by thoughtomator (How to recognize the enemy: he says "peace" and means something entirely different)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

Boy, I sure hope it is! Last thing we need to start off the New Year!

Someone please tell me this isn't true.


6 posted on 12/31/2005 4:35:53 PM PST by jacquej
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To: thoughtomator

Thought so...we need to stop playing games and Air Strike all their Nuclear Facilities.

I believe once the West (includes Israel) Makes a strike on Iran, the youth will finally topple them.


7 posted on 12/31/2005 4:36:40 PM PST by HHKrepublican_2 (OP Spread the Truth....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1535158/posts)
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To: jacquej

Just by looking at the sources...It might as well be Debka.


8 posted on 12/31/2005 4:37:04 PM PST by HHKrepublican_2 (OP Spread the Truth....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1535158/posts)
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To: SJackson
"Goss also asked Ankara to be ready for a possible US air operation against Iran and Syria."

Hmmm. IMO, we won't really know what's going on until something big happens...or not.
10 posted on 12/31/2005 4:39:58 PM PST by familyop (Fire Jezebel. Hire Elijah.)
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To: DoctorZIn

and why some people even inside Iran think that regime possesses nukes?


11 posted on 12/31/2005 4:40:28 PM PST by Khashayar (No Banana Allowed!)
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To: jacquej
Someone please tell me this isn't true.

Okay, it's not true.

12 posted on 12/31/2005 4:42:01 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: jacquej

The Iranian government has the know how in nearly every aspect of nuclear weapons development needed to produce home grown weapons.

With the close relationship of Iran to North Korea, Pakistan, China and Russia is not only possible but likely.

Now the Iranian government is seeking to extend the range of its missiles.


13 posted on 12/31/2005 4:45:21 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: thoughtomator
No they wouldn't. Nuking Israel would mean:

a) Death of Palestinians

b) Death of Hizbollah Allies

c) Death of Syrian Allies

and the end of Iran's theocracy. W would retaliate in kind with tactical nukes.

Holding nukes gives them some extra chips in case of an invasion.
14 posted on 12/31/2005 4:46:34 PM PST by misterrob
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To: DoctorZIn
Goss, the best d@mn thing to transpire in the WOT!

But why is Goss being quoted instead of Condi?

Both of these figureheads are respectful IMO, however I consider Porter a domestic icon with the WOT.

15 posted on 12/31/2005 4:50:51 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: thoughtomator

I would speculate they need more than one weapon. sure one may /not hit tel aviv, therefore they need more than one. then there would be retaliation, accordingly they need support of more nuclear weapons.

given that, they need to accumulate / manufacture more than a handfull.


16 posted on 12/31/2005 4:59:21 PM PST by jackson29
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To: DoctorZIn

Look for 2 two events. If they happen, we know....

1. Israeli jets leaving home space headed in an easterly direction.

2. Senator Jay Rockerfeller on a special envoy trip to Syria and Iran.


17 posted on 12/31/2005 5:01:27 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: F14 Pilot

What is the protest about?

Who are they?


18 posted on 12/31/2005 5:02:00 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: misterrob

Unless they don't believe their own rhetoric (unlikely, as that rhetoric is perfectly consistent with their observed behavior), none of those things would matter to them. Muslims don't care if they die if they think they are getting their virgins in the process.


19 posted on 12/31/2005 5:02:15 PM PST by thoughtomator (How to recognize the enemy: he says "peace" and means something entirely different)
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To: thoughtomator

The behavior of the Iranian ruling regime is curious. Nuking Israel would mean a nuclear war with the US and that would happen very soon afterwards, regardless of the Democrats and RINOs. Plus, Israel is said to have subs that are nuke equipped. Either way they would be cinder in no time.

They know that W has limited political support for military action so they can continue to stir up the pot with support for terrorism. I think that they also believe that they can continue to move forward in developing nukes given the lack of balls in Europe and the lack of unity on the US front. The Nukes are for chips at the big table. If they have them we cannot easily invade them. If they give them out to terrorists then they are as good as dead.

???????


20 posted on 12/31/2005 5:08:53 PM PST by misterrob
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To: DoctorZIn
they are workers of a government funded factory protesting their low wages and layoffs
21 posted on 12/31/2005 5:18:17 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: DoctorZIn

I've been suspecting for a couple of months now that Iran might have acquired one or two from NK, or perhaps some of those missing Russian suitcase bombs.


22 posted on 12/31/2005 5:21:45 PM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: DoctorZIn

Tell the Turks that Iran has a large Armenian population and they will be good to go.


23 posted on 12/31/2005 5:35:30 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: misterrob
W would retaliate in kind with tactical nukes.

So let me get this straight:

Iran uses nuclear weapons against Israel. The U.S. responds with tactical nuclear strikes, right? But when Tom Tancredo suggested that, in the event of multiple nuclear strikes inside the U.S. by Islamic terrorists, that we should nuke Mecca, he was branded a lunatic, far-right extremist, etc.--by his own party!
24 posted on 12/31/2005 5:40:40 PM PST by Das Outsider
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To: DoctorZIn

more pics

http://ilna.ir/photo/showphoto.asp?code=266981&code1=12


25 posted on 12/31/2005 5:45:36 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: Das Outsider

Nuking Mecca is not the answer. You nuke the people who did it and if they are not a state then you take out the people who helped them. If that means we eradicate the Saudi's for helping then that's part of the package.

I am not aware that W has never made it a stated policy of ours that anyone who helped a terrorist detonate a nuke against us would be the ones receiving the tactical nuke response.


26 posted on 12/31/2005 5:48:51 PM PST by misterrob
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To: misterrob
Nuking Mecca is not the answer. You nuke the people who did it and if they are not a state then you take out the people who helped them. If that means we eradicate the Saudi's for helping then that's part of the package.

I know. What I was getting at was whether or not Republicans in Washington would act as they have in recent history: turn tail and side with Democrats.

Let's hope we don't have to actually deal with that. Happy New Year!
27 posted on 12/31/2005 6:34:37 PM PST by Das Outsider
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To: thoughtomator

The weapons Iran would have at this point would be relatively small for nukes so that Iran would have to use several to destroy Tel Aviv. They may be waiting until they have enough. If they launch them, the impacts would be scattered and would affect adjoining countries, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, and the territory of Palestine and Gaza. Casualties among Arabs would be higher than among Israelis. Retaliation would eliminate Iran as a functional country for a very long time.


28 posted on 12/31/2005 6:40:28 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: misterrob
All your assumptions have one flaw.

They assume sanity.

29 posted on 12/31/2005 6:46:54 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: Windcatcher
or perhaps some of those missing Russian suitcase bombs.

NTSHA!

30 posted on 12/31/2005 6:49:34 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: Das Outsider
Mecca hasn't been moved to Iran has it?

Tancredo destroyed his credibility with the nuke Mecca remark. He should have stuck to the border issue.

31 posted on 12/31/2005 6:57:29 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: ASA Vet

Parts of the article just doesn't pass the smell test.


32 posted on 12/31/2005 7:10:30 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: NY Attitude

2006 will be an interesting year.


33 posted on 12/31/2005 7:14:18 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: ASA Vet

Sounds like it.

Happy New Year.


34 posted on 12/31/2005 7:19:22 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: HHKrepublican_2
Thought so...we need to stop playing games and Air Strike all their Nuclear Facilities. I believe once the West (includes Israel) Makes a strike on Iran, the youth will finally topple them

Iran declared war on the United States long ago. What we really need to do is initiate a country-wide assassination of every damned mullah in the Iranian government. If we really want a student revolution to occur, then we need to stop the belly-aching and hand-wringing and get it on.

There is still payment to be made for that little embassy incident back in 1979, and it's high time to send in the bill collectors.
35 posted on 12/31/2005 7:27:22 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: misterrob

They don't give a rat's patoot about the Palestinians. The Pali's are just expendable cannon fodder.


36 posted on 01/01/2006 4:12:31 PM PST by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: DoctorZIn
To read today’s thread click here.

Join Us At Today's Iranian Alert Thread – The Most Underreported Story Of The Year!

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37 posted on 01/01/2006 6:56:14 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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