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The Fight over the Iraq vote and the strange hypocrisy of the American Right regarding Iraq [FR]
OpEdNews.com ^ | December 31, 2005 | Steven Leser

Posted on 01/01/2006 1:56:14 AM PST by Watery Tart

The Fight over the Iraq vote and the strange
hypocrisy of the American Right regarding Iraq

The Islamic Republic of Iraq?

Traverse any blog or website geared to Republicans and the Conservative Right here in the United States (such as Free Republic or http://www.freerepublic.com ), and a strange dichotomy becomes evident with regard to Iraq.

First, they talk about every practicing Muslim and everyone of Arab descent as if they were a member of Al Qaeda and an animal. A popular photo on Free Republic shows a Grim Reaper with a skull and proclaims "Islam - It's the Evil of our Time, let's NOT leave it for our children".


See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1487236/posts


and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1548226/posts


and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1548198/posts


and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1548214/posts


and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1508903/posts


Invariably, any discussion of Islam on these websites involves description of Muhammad as a pervert and a pedophile. In almost the same sentence, these people have no problem saying that they support Bush going into Iraq to promote Democracy for the people there. Yes, such wonderful things they and their President want for Iraqis.


Then, in a later thread, which might describe insurgents blowing something up in Iraq, they again continue their diatribe that all Muslims and Arabs are animals and should be killed or 'nuked'.


Queer folk these conservatives. Oops, they are going to be upset I called them Queer given their ridiculous hatred of gays. Ah well, what can one do?


I get the feeling that most Republicans secretly feel this way about Muslims and Arabs. I know President Bush has publicly said that he is not warring against Islam or Arabs, but against Saddam Hussein and the Terrorists, but I have this feeling that he and Uncle Dick say things altogether different in private.


In any case, the Republican electorate is virulently anti-Islam and that is a shame. Most practitioners of Islam that I have had the pleasure to know are wonderful, law abiding and hard working people.


The Iraq war is continuing to evolve into another phase that was predicted by many; anarchy and civil war.


The Shiites, who vastly outnumber Iraq's other two ethnic groups, Sunnis and Kurds, are naturally going to win any fair democratic elections in the country. The Sunnis and Kurds are not going to like this for many reasons among them that both groups are generally less observant of Islamic laws and traditions than the Shiites and the Shiites seem to want to steer Iraq toward fundamentalist Islam.

George Bush may claim (now, since no WMD were found) that he went to war to bring Democracy to the people of Iraq, but the net effect of his actions will likely be a Muslim Theocracy. Women in particular are going to suffer when the country becomes "The Shiite Islamic Republic of Iraq". [Don't forget the Children! --WT]

Democratic elections aren't going to turn out to be a good thing here and the Sunnis and Kurds know it. That is why they are protesting these elections tooth and nail. All the protesting and new elections, if they are able to attain them, will not help Sunnis and Kurds overcome the massive Shiite majority in the country.


Where does this leave us? The Freepers (as they like to call themselves) over at Free Republic deserve credit for some of the wackiest and creepiest (nuke all the people in over several dozen countries? Hello? Any humans on that site?) hypocrisy in history.


And President Bush, who was re-elected by an army of evangelical Christians for being such a “good Christian man” is going to be most remembered for establishing a radical Islamic Republic in Iraq.All of which proves the old axiom, truth is stranger then fiction, particularly when dealing with Republicans.


Authors Bio: Steven Leser is a freelance journalist specializing in Politics, Science & Health, and Entertainment topics. He has held positions within the Democratic Party including District Chair and Public Relations Chair within county organizations. His coverage of the Ohio Presidential Recount in 2004 was distinguished by actual interviews with Carlo Loparo, spokesperson for the Ohio Secretary of State, along with Supervisors of Elections of several Ohio counties. Similar efforts on other topics to get first hand information from sources separate Mr. Leser from many of his contemporaries.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: allbushsfault; crazydemcontingent; flamebaitforbigots; moonbat; welostohioagain
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To: patriciaruth; GeronL
Forgive me, I have the world's slowest connection tonite.

I like your picture gallery, and have many of the same ones in my files.

Yes, I walked around all of X42's regime and said, "What the HECK do they see in that old bloated @#$%%?

Invariably, any discussion of Islam on these websites involves description of Muhammad as a pervert and a pedophile

Isn't this an established fact??

As for Mohammed, yeah, he sounds like a bad dude, and I wonder if his Satanic Verses were the entire Koran.

Yeah, I thought this youngster ("youth?") would have commented before this on the subject. On a real website. That has real news. Not this "OpEd" site where they seemed to have given this boy the keys over the holidays.

41 posted on 01/01/2006 3:40:50 AM PST by Watery Tart (Babe Ruth is dead. Throw strikes.)
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To: kanawa
Forgive me, I have the world's slowest connection tonite.

Nuke Steven Leser

With extreme prejudice. But maybe if he joined up....Nah. I'm assuming he'd pass the physical.
</freerepublicconservative>

42 posted on 01/01/2006 3:45:36 AM PST by Watery Tart (Babe Ruth is dead. Throw strikes.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

"Authors Bio: Steven Leser is a freelance journalist specializing in Politics, Science & Health, and Entertainment topics"

Three inexact disciplines and the fourth a waste of everybody's time.


43 posted on 01/01/2006 3:53:49 AM PST by RoadTest (Religion never saved a soul - that's Jesus' job.)
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To: Paladin2
I believe you're right on the mark Paladin2.

Since that pesky Freedom of Speech thing prevents them from actually silencing the bloggers, the next best thing is to discredit them with lies and distortions.

It's a standard political tactic. One perfected by the liberal.

Freeper Starbase has assembled a list of propaganda techniques you might find interesting. You'll find each one used with abandon by the media (and other leftists) on a daily basis.
44 posted on 01/01/2006 3:53:54 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Whats with the Marquis of Queensbury Rules bullsh*t, we fight for our very survival! Fight Dirty!)
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To: Watery Tart
In any case, the Republican electorate is virulently anti-Islam and that is a shame. Most practitioners of Islam that I have had the pleasure to know are wonderful, law abiding and hard working people.

Since 9-11 I have been hoping in vain for someone to show me one single aspect of Islam that doesn't totally disgust me.

From what I have seen, there are only three types of Muslims -- murderous Islamist fascists, enablers of murderous Islamist fascists, and lapsed Muslims.

Perhaps the author of this screed hangs around with the latter group. In any event, we need a lot more of those types.

It is certainly possible to hope for democracy in Iraq and still believe that Islam at its core is an evil doctrine. That doesn't mean there aren't good people also who were born into Islam and nominally practice it because of peer and family pressure.

45 posted on 01/01/2006 3:56:09 AM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan

I've seen it quite a bit, it's a good pic.


46 posted on 01/01/2006 4:00:22 AM PST by thoughtomator (How to recognize the enemy: he says "peace" and means something entirely different)
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To: CzarNicky
I favor freedom for the middle east so that they may eventually leave the swamp that is islam. That evil cult has had a stranglehold there for 14 centuries too many it is time it had some competition and eventually some brave souls will see that there is life beyond the pedophile profit's (pigs be upon him) death cult.

YES!! I think people ALL OVER this world can come to this conclusion, once they're LET OFF THE PLANTATION to see what's really available to them out there. And the Democrat water-carriers KoolAid drinkers don't want to let this happen

47 posted on 01/01/2006 4:05:47 AM PST by Watery Tart (Forgive me, I have the world's slowest connection tonite.)
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To: Watery Tart

[most remembered for establishing a radical Islamic Republic in Iraq.]

Do any of the liberal left realize that Arab nations are Islamic and Islamic nations kill all people, subjugate women, dispise all free nations and have the intent to destroy them..
The liberal left elitists
"Always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth".


48 posted on 01/01/2006 4:06:14 AM PST by kindred (Lord,thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:)
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To: chemicalman
He's just pissed because he keeps getting zotted here.

Yeah, that, and his mom keeps yelling down the basement stairs because he keeps getting one side of the keyboard all orange....

49 posted on 01/01/2006 4:08:57 AM PST by Watery Tart (Forgive me, I have the world's slowest connection tonite.)
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To: tkathy
The ACTIONS of Islam are diametrically opposed to the WORDS of Islam.

The left is childish and naive enough to take people at their word.

Iraq must yet prove itself as well as the entire world of Islam.

I belive their "good guys" should have said a little more after the recent elections about how good life is here, etc., IMO.

It actually should have been since 9/11, but we'll take all the good PR they can give--like Betty did.


50 posted on 01/01/2006 4:20:08 AM PST by Watery Tart (Forgive me, I have the world's slowest connection tonite.)
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To: tkathy
Consider me to be one of those hypocrite's. When one of your loved ones has been targeted in the name of Allah, one tends to get a jaded view of Muslims.
51 posted on 01/01/2006 4:29:45 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan; Fiddlstix

By Fiddlstix

52 posted on 01/01/2006 4:35:31 AM PST by kanawa (Freaking panty wetting, weakspined bliss-ninny socialist punks)
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To: backhoe
THANK YOU, backhoe!! (Anyone ever call you "hoe" for short? Nah, I didn't think so, either.) I had been looking for some of your stuff the other day, and now I have a PicToClick! Maybe send a link to this clymer wanna-be.

Nice to see you keep it up to date!

I stopped by and BUMPed your thread, too.



Forgive me, I have the world's slowest connection tonite.

53 posted on 01/01/2006 4:46:25 AM PST by Watery Tart (It's a sad day when a lib ASPIRES to ACHIEVE clymerhood.)
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To: sargon

"Well, then, they need to speak out against the fanatical extremists who are hijacking their religion."

You nailed it! Instead of the West having to bend over backwards to try to understand Islam and Muslims better, why don't these "wonderful, law abiding and hard working people" try to convince me that Islam is a Religion of Peace? If it's such a small minority who are giving the religion a bad name, why doesn't the vast majority rat them out and stop them?

We all know the answer.


54 posted on 01/01/2006 4:47:28 AM PST by American in Singapore (Liberals: They even lie in their diaries)
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To: Watery Tart
THANK YOU, backhoe!! (Anyone ever call you "hoe" for short? Nah, I didn't think so, either.)

Well, actually, yes- sometimes as an abbreviation, and then, on other occasions I suspect it had a ruder meaning...
( Hell's Bells... never have sold it... may have rented it out a time or two... )

... and thanks for the bump!

55 posted on 01/01/2006 4:58:32 AM PST by backhoe (The Silence of the Tom's ( Tired Old Media... ))
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To: sargon
Total horses--t

I LOVE IT! Succint. Descriptive. Versatile.

Thanks for going through and deflating him.
Or his close friends.

56 posted on 01/01/2006 5:13:04 AM PST by Watery Tart (Forgive me, I have the world's slowest connection tonite.)
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To: Watery Tart

Guess he's off his Midol®.


57 posted on 01/01/2006 5:13:17 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: JohnCliftn
An Islamic Republic of Iraq would be unconstitutional under the current Iraqi constitution. So, the future depends on whether Iraq follows liberalism, which means Iraq ignores its constitution, or is more conservative.

IMO President Bush's experiment in Iraq is worth the cost regardless of the outcome, because we will know definatively whether Arabs/Muslims are able to embrace democracy. If they go the way of the terrorist supporting theocratic state, then we will know to deal with them much more harshly next time they step over the line and kill Americans.

58 posted on 01/01/2006 5:16:28 AM PST by IonInsights
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To: Watery Tart

Did this person forget the Master Plan? "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity". We're only in Phase II right now.


59 posted on 01/01/2006 5:18:32 AM PST by fzx12345 (Three lefts don't make a right; they invent one.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Sheesh. I clicked on your link and SKIMMED his hurls. Now I have to wonder why this youngster was given a computer and a connection. And why he isn't being monitored by his mom (oh yeah, beer).

This kid should call back after he's had a job for a few months.


60 posted on 01/01/2006 5:21:35 AM PST by Watery Tart (Forgive me, I have the world's slowest connection tonite.)
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