Skip to comments.Beltway vs. Blogosphere (Democrats Vs Bloggers)
Posted on 01/01/2006 9:17:39 AM PST by F14 Pilot
Democrats are struggling to reconcile the differences between party leaders in D.C. and independent activists on the Net
If I am hearing Simon Rosenberg right (and he is worth listening to), a nasty civil war is brewing within the Democratic Party, and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clintonthe partys presumptive 2008 nomineeneeds to avoid getting caught in the middle of it.
Its not a fight between liberals and conservatives, Rosenberg told me the other day. Its between our governing class here and activists everywhere else.
In other words, its the Beltway versus the Blogosphere.
Whats interesting is that Rosenberg is himself a Beltway creature, a preternaturally self-assured young insider with a cherubic face and a cold smile. He heads a group called the New Democratic Network and ran his own campaign for DNC chair. But the names he utters with reverence are net-based: organizers such as Eli Pariser and bloggers such as Daily Kos and Atrios.
Rosenberg rejects that notion that the bloggers represent a new Internet Left. Its not an ideological rift, he says, but a narrative of independence versus capitulation: too many Democrats here are too yielding to George W. Bush on the war in Iraq, on tax policy, you name it. What the blogs have developed is a narrative, he told me the other day, and the narrative is that the official Washington party has become like Vichy France.
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Its between our governing class here and activists everywhere else.
What a telling statement this is.
pMSNBC doesn't like my dial-up.
Does Fineman actually 'get it' in this article?
Amusing. . .the activists think the Democrats aren't far ENOUGH to the left.
Here's to the coming civil war amongst the Dems. . . . .and may the Bloggers win.
Because the farther left the Dems go. . .the more elections they'll lose . . .
Did anyone ever believe that Democrats offered competent, benevolent government?
The Dems are right to be more afraid of their own extremists than they are of right wingers...if I were a Dem, I'd be scared of anyone calling themselves "progressive"--
"too many Democrats here are too yielding to George W. Bush on the war in Iraq, on tax policy, you name it."
This president and administration has been savaged like no
other in recent memory. Loyal opposition? One nation?
Not based on the democrats behavior over the last 5 years.
God save us from these people.
I will bet you that left wing bloggers will eventually end up on the government payroll. Probably be paid $ 75,000 plus benefits.
Instincts tell me to follow the money, which is George Soros, who is likely behind the lefty fringe. I smell huge Dem losses, especially when W nationalizes the midterms with national security issues.
Sounds as though the Dems are trying to re-invent themselves . . . . . . just as soon as they figure out what they believe in. Recent history suggests that the USA is not among their core beliefs.
Typo. I think they meant incompetent and malevolent government. Dumb AND evil.
"The First Battle of Bull Run (or First Manassas, if you insist) in this civil war occurred in 2003 and early 2004, when party insiders, the Mainstream Media and a network of long-time funders anointed Sen. John Kerry, only to see him get chewed up in the early going by Gov. Howard Dean."
And they didn't learn the lesson of Dean's self-immolation - that even the wimps in the Old Media are turned off by the high-pitched lunacy of the "progressive" fringe.
They are alike in many ways. Only true believers may be tolerated everyone else is an infidel -- Germany's National Socialists are agreed upon as the most evil thus so are the infidels.
. [Sheehan] came to prominence -- quickly, virally, seemingly from out of nowhere
Skid marks on underpants could come to prominence quickly with the servile, fawning promotion of the MSM.
What's needed? The Rats answer: More agitation, more stirring up. More Leninist tactics: unforgiving toughness and a mastery of new means of communications. . .the key is not ideological purity but combativeness
More and more the Rats speak in revolutionary rhetoric. Give it back to them, Mr. President Lincoln.. er, I mean Bush.
I'll put $50 on the Dem Psychotosphere...
"and may the Bloggers win.
Because the farther left the Dems go. . .the more elections they'll lose "
Howard Dean is the face of the activist Democrat internet party. One can only hope for more rantings from this loon.
Comes in OK here. I'm at 50.6 Kbps.
It was the WAY she came to prominencequickly, virally, seemingly from out of nowhereand her stubbornly confrontational tone. In Rosenbergs view, thats the tone Democrats need to adopt now, especially after Hurricane Katrina.
Oh yeah. America just loves hearing the voice of a developmentally disabled 12 year old girl come out of the body of a 50 year old woman. That must be why she had tens of thousands of people showing up at her book signing.
I love the sound of Liberals self-immolating in the morning ....
sounds like .... victory ....
Truer than the speaker imagines. The extremist wish to make civil governance impossible and indictable.
Yup that statement says it all. Ironically the GOP is having the same problem with its base. We actually want conservatives to be conservative.
No matter which side of the aisle folks in Washington are upset that the rabble has somehow commandeered the microphone.
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