Ariz. mine closure throws Indians out of work

San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 1/1/2006 | John M. Broder

[Dane]

The envirowhackos strike again.

[FlingWingFlyer]

(Here is a good one.)

[mad_as_he$$]

Did everybody else in the world stop using coal? If you can get it to Laughlin you can get it anywhere.

[Iris7]

The basic political (as in Aristotle's "man is the political animal") question is who gets what they want and who doesn't. Lenin's statement of this reality is rendered in English "Who...Whom?"

Compromise is based on love. If you would just as soon the other party dies there is no love. If there is no love between the parties then there is only power, only dominance and submission.

[Mike Darancette]

Whenever I drive through the area of Northern AZ I envy the Indians the beautiful lands that surround them until I see the conditions in which they live.

[FOG724]

thanks

[Troublemaker]

Some of these 'Indian' activists aren't Indian at all. There is a game played by some for many years to claim to be Indians and to then proceed to argue for their favorite reforms under color of civil rights. Some actual Indians are beginning to get annoyed by this behavior

You got that right, on all accounts.

[RightWhale]

Well, that is what I heard from a member of one of the regional or inter-tribal councils. One concern is that these activists may be doing serious harm to Indian interests, and that I would not doubt.

[webboy45]

Time to make a coal to gas plant on the reservation.

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

The power generating plant is located just upriver from where we live. Every damned pic or TV news video shows steam rising from the stack, not pollution. What pollution is emitted, we here could all easily live with.

Now that it is being closed, watch many more of the bloody little NG (natural gas) fired power gen plants crop up all over the place. The PC crowd went to court and won on the clean burning NG power plants. With NG in short supply, the power plants are now placed in direct competition with home owners for heating fuel. And the NG costs are out of control.

Up to 400 workers at the plant are also now out of a job, may the PC enviroNazis rot in Hades.

And no, I do not work there, nor do I know anyone that does.

[FlingWingFlyer]

The Indians will always live under those conditions until we, and they, get serious and flush the goofy notions of "sovereign nations" and reservations. Businesses will never move into these places as long as they are going to be forced to deal with corrupt tribal governments.

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

The chromium 6 is being neutralized underground at the Topock PG&E plant, it will no longer be a problem, but rest assured, the PC Nazis will continue to try and make it one.

[uglybiker]

In addition the dems are running a 'crooked' Navajo to try and defeat Rick Renzi...

IOW A standard, run-of-the-mill Democrat who just happens to be Navajo.

Last time, Renzi lost on the Reservation and the Flagstaff area, but cleaned up in the rest of the district.

I doubt he has much to worry about.

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

Comes into Laughlin via a slurry pipeline.

[Apercu]

Like Ward "Fake Indian" Churchill.

[RightWhale]

Yep.

[mad_as_he$$]

Ok but still could put it on rail -I think and ship it anywhere else. Is Sierra Pacific Resources one of the owners of the power station? If so they are bunch of clowns.

[Xenalyte]

This thread reminds me . . . does anyone know if I can get in trouble, and if so how much trouble, for indicating on job applications that I'm a native American?

I am, after all - eight generations of my family were born right here in America.

[brushcop]

Right on, you beat me by a hair. I was raised in the Four Corners during the 50s, nothing's changed. I used to write the Navajo "Nation" in Chinle, AZ and challenge them to right-thinking policies addressing alcoholism, living in squalor, etc. My wife and I would stop by the HQ in Chinle and speak of these things, willing to try something--nope, although several Navajo Tribal police officers gave us some ideas. I had Navajo buddies brainstorming with me on this issue, one said that he was going to get his degree in Engineering and return to "help his people".

He got his degree in Education instead God bless him, his wife also became a teacher; maybe he missed the mark on his Engineering dream but by golly he walked the walk. He said it still didn't work! This goes back to your original premise of "nations", business on the reservations and corrupt tribal governments. Perhaps H. Yazzie planted a lot of seeds though...

[Troublemaker]

My wife, who was born & raised in Crow Agency MT., has spent her entire life trying to improve life on the reservations. Many of these "instant Indians" are her biggest obstacles.