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It’s the demography, stupid
The New Criterion ^ | Jan 2, 2006 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 01/01/2006 2:52:39 PM PST by twntaipan

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To: twntaipan

THIS is what the war is all about. And Steyn is right: we're losing.


21 posted on 01/01/2006 4:20:02 PM PST by Clioman
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To: twntaipan

That Steyn is a boy genius!


22 posted on 01/01/2006 4:20:50 PM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: twntaipan

Most depressing.

This article, makes me want to buy lots of gold and guns.

We are at war, a war that many do not see. I hope Steyn is wrong.


23 posted on 01/01/2006 4:24:51 PM PST by Pondman88
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To: twntaipan

This seems much the same view as Pat Buchanan has been expounding for the last ten years. Mark S. seems to have written off Europe--or at least most of it. It will be interesting to see if a major backlash develops on that continent to the Islamic tsunnami. Certainly the left doesn't seem capable of self-preservation. The US might be the lynch pin, but it might take a new civil war to achieve a non-suicidal society.


24 posted on 01/01/2006 4:27:09 PM PST by Faraday
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To: Faraday

If a backlash to the Islamic tsunami is to occur, it will take Europe (and liberalism in the USA) abandoning many of its core values--I don't think that will happen.


25 posted on 01/01/2006 4:35:12 PM PST by twntaipan (Liberals: Eternally stuck on stupid.)
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To: twntaipan

We need to CHOP taxes so that families larger than 2 or 3 are no longer the province of the wealthy, the eccentric, and those on welfare.


26 posted on 01/01/2006 4:41:21 PM PST by ikka
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To: Paleo Conservative

Yep. it's called the jizya. All dhimmis are required to pay. Failure to do so is considered a just cause for execution, rape, or torture. I note that Steyn unfortunately continues to indulge in the myth that jihad is some sort of radical idea of a few "Islamofascists", when in fact it is as central to Islam as the resurrection is to Christianity.


27 posted on 01/01/2006 4:47:36 PM PST by Bogolyubski
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To: mlc9852

It was a great article: make sure you do make the attempt to read it.


28 posted on 01/01/2006 4:48:46 PM PST by Koblenz (Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
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To: Koblenz

I did read quite a bit and it is very good. I'll read the rest later.


29 posted on 01/01/2006 5:00:21 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: twntaipan
Thank you for this post. I think this might be the best of the best of Steyn....

Happpy NeewwYeeeeear!

FMCDH(BITS)

31 posted on 01/01/2006 5:08:55 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: grey_whiskers
Thanks for the ping, g_w. Steyn is first-rate...and mostly correct, I fear. I wonder, though, whether muslims are going to be able to master the skills necessary to run the modern world when they inherit it. Right now, they look through the window and covet what's inside (or firebomb the cars parked on the street outside), but they don't seem to possess the ability to produce what's inside for themselves. Will that change? I wonder.

Happy New Year, my friend...

32 posted on 01/01/2006 5:14:57 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: twntaipan
our tolerance of our own tolerance is making us intolerant of other people’s intolerance, which is intolerable. And, unlikely as it sounds, this has now become the highest, most rarefied form of multiculturalism. So you’re nice to gays and the Inuit? Big deal. Anyone can be tolerant of fellows like that, but tolerance of intolerance gives an even more intense frisson of pleasure to the multiculti masochists. In other words, just as the AIDS pandemic greatly facilitated societal surrender to the gay agenda, so 9/11 is greatly facilitating our surrender to the most extreme aspects of the multicultural agenda.

OMG, I fear Steyn's on to something here...

33 posted on 01/01/2006 5:17:20 PM PST by GOPJ (Happy New Year!)
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To: Richard Kimball

Come on guys, I'm on vacation... Don't be so serious... Unitil tuesday at least.


34 posted on 01/01/2006 5:25:15 PM PST by DariusBane (I do not separate people, as do the narrow-minded, into Greeks and barbarians.)
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To: ThePythonicCow
Doing my part to fight for the west :)
I proudly served my country until injuries cut my military career short, now I have 4 children and one on the way, This might actual work out in out benefit as at least in the Midwest it's the conservatives that have large families all the liberal snobs are to busy for a child or only have one then get fixed so they are breeding themselves out of existence
35 posted on 01/01/2006 5:27:25 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: Richard Kimball
And yes, I am aware that the West suffers from a lack of confidence in it's intrinsic "rightness" and moral authority. Combine that with a declining birthrate and you have real trouble...But not until Tuesday!
36 posted on 01/01/2006 5:31:47 PM PST by DariusBane (I do not separate people, as do the narrow-minded, into Greeks and barbarians.)
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To: twntaipan

bump for later read


37 posted on 01/01/2006 5:42:14 PM PST by albee ("Those that bite the hand that feeds them will lick the boot that kicks them!" - Eric Hoffer)
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To: twntaipan
L8R



38 posted on 01/01/2006 5:43:41 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: ikka
We need to CHOP taxes so that families larger than 2 or 3 are no longer the province of the wealthy, the eccentric, and those on welfare.

The only people that can afford large families are very rich or the very poor.

40 posted on 01/01/2006 6:32:09 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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