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Itís the demography, stupid
The New Criterion ^ | Jan 2, 2006 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 01/01/2006 2:52:39 PM PST by twntaipan

Most people reading this have strong stomachs, so let me lay it out as baldly as I can: Much of what we loosely call the western world will survive this century, and much of it will effectively disappear within our lifetimes, including many if not most western European countries. There’ll probably still be a geographical area on the map marked as Italy or the Netherlands— probably—just as in Istanbul there’s still a building called St. Sophia’s Cathedral. But it’s not a cathedral; it’s merely a designation for a piece of real estate. Likewise, Italy and the Netherlands will merely be designations for real estate. The challenge for those who reckon western civilization is on balance better than the alternatives is to figure out a way to save at least some parts of the west.

One obstacle to doing that is the fact that, in the typical election campaign in your advanced industrial democracy, the political platforms of at least one party in the United States and pretty much all parties in the rest of the west are largely about what one would call the secondary impulses of society—government health care, government day care (which Canada’s thinking of introducing), government paternity leave (which Britain’s just introduced). We’ve prioritized the secondary impulse over the primary ones: national defense, family, faith, and, most basic of all, reproductive activity—“Go forth and multiply,” because if you don’t you won’t be able to afford all those secondary-impulse issues, like cradle-to-grave welfare. Americans sometimes don’t understand how far gone most of the rest of the developed world is down this path: In the Canadian and most Continental cabinets, the defense ministry is somewhere an ambitious politician passes through on his way up to important jobs like the health department. I don’t think Don Rumsfeld would regard it as a promotion if he were moved to Health & Human Services.

The design flaw of the secular social-democratic state is that it requires a religious-society birth rate to sustain it. Post-Christian hyper-rationalism is, in the objective sense, a lot less rational than Catholicism or Mormonism. Indeed, in its reliance on immigration to ensure its future, the European Union has adopted a twenty-first-century variation on the strategy of the Shakers, who were forbidden from reproducing and thus could only increase their numbers by conversion. The problem is that secondary- impulse societies mistake their weaknesses for strengths—or, at any rate, virtues—and that’s why they’re proving so feeble at dealing with a primal force like Islam.

Speaking of which, if we are at war—and half the American people and significantly higher percentages in Britain, Canada, and Europe don’t accept that proposition—than what exactly is the war about?

We know it’s not really a “war on terror.” Nor is it, at heart, a war against Islam, or even “radical Islam.” The Muslim faith, whatever its merits for the believers, is a problematic business for the rest of us. There are many trouble spots around the world, but as a general rule, it’s easy to make an educated guess at one of the participants: Muslims vs. Jews in “Palestine,” Muslims vs. Hindus in Kashmir, Muslims vs. Christians in Africa, Muslims vs. Buddhists in Thailand, Muslims vs. Russians in the Caucasus, Muslims vs. backpacking tourists in Bali. Like the environmentalists, these guys think globally but act locally.

Yet while Islamism is the enemy, it’s not what this thing’s about. Radical Islam is an opportunist infection, like AIDS: it’s not the HIV that kills you, it’s the pneumonia you get when your body’s too weak to fight it off. When the jihadists engage with the U.S. military, they lose—as they did in Afghanistan and Iraq. If this were like World War I with those fellows in one trench and us in ours facing them over some boggy piece of terrain, it would be over very quickly. Which the smarter Islamists have figured out. They know they can never win on the battlefield, but they figure there’s an excellent chance they can drag things out until western civilization collapses in on itself and Islam inherits by default.

That’s what the war’s about: our lack of civilizational confidence. As a famous Arnold Toynbee quote puts it: “Civilizations die from suicide, not murder”—as can be seen throughout much of “the western world” right now. The progressive agenda —lavish social welfare, abortion, secularism, multiculturalism—is collectively the real suicide bomb. Take multiculturalism: the great thing about multiculturalism is that it doesn’t involve knowing anything about other cultures—the capital of Bhutan, the principal exports of Malawi, who cares? All it requires is feeling good about other cultures. It’s fundamentally a fraud, and I would argue was subliminally accepted on that basis. Most adherents to the idea that all cultures are equal don’t want to live in anything but an advanced western society: Multiculturalism means your kid has to learn some wretched native dirge for the school holiday concert instead of getting to sing “Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer” or that your holistic masseuse uses techniques developed from Native American spirituality, but not that you or anyone you care about should have to live in an African or Native-American society. It’s a quintessential piece of progressive humbug.

Then September 11 happened. And bizarrely the reaction of just about every prominent western leader was to visit a mosque: President Bush did, the Prince of Wales did, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom did, the Prime Minister of Canada did… . The Premier of Ontario didn’t, and so twenty Muslim community leaders had a big summit to denounce him for failing to visit a mosque. I don’t know why he didn’t. Maybe there was a big backlog, it was mosque drivetime, prime ministers in gridlock up and down the freeway trying to get to the Sword of the Infidel-Slayer Mosque on Elm Street. But for whatever reason he couldn’t fit it into his hectic schedule. Ontario’s Citizenship Minister did show up at a mosque, but the imams took that as a great insult, like the Queen sending Fergie to open the Commonwealth Games. So the Premier of Ontario had to hold a big meeting with the aggrieved imams to apologize for not going to a mosque and, as The Toronto Star’s reported it, “to provide them with reassurance that the provincial government does not see them as the enemy.”

Anyway, the get-me-to-the-mosque-on-time fever died down, but it set the tone for our general approach to these atrocities. The old definition of a nanosecond was the gap between the traffic light changing in New York and the first honk from a car behind. The new definition is the gap between a terrorist bombing and the press release from an Islamic lobby group warning of a backlash against Muslims. In most circumstances, it would be considered appallingly bad taste to deflect attention from an actual “hate crime” by scaremongering about a purely hypothetical one. Needless to say, there is no campaign of Islamophobic hate crimes. If anything, the west is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes. A commenter on Tim Blair’s website in Australia summed it up in a note-perfect parody of a Guardian headline: “Muslim Community Leaders Warn of Backlash from Tomorrow Morning’s Terrorist Attack.” Those community leaders have the measure of us.

Radical Islam is what multiculturalism has been waiting for all along. In The Survival of Culture, I quoted the eminent British barrister Helena Kennedy, QC. Shortly after September 11, Baroness Kennedy argued on a BBC show that it was too easy to disparage “Islamic fundamentalists.” “We as western liberals too often are fundamentalist ourselves,” she complained. “We don’t look at our own fundamentalisms.”

Well, said the interviewer, what exactly would those western liberal fundamentalisms be? “One of the things that we are too ready to insist upon is that we are the tolerant people and that the intolerance is something that belongs to other countries like Islam. And I’m not sure that’s true.”

Hmm. Lady Kennedy was arguing that our tolerance of our own tolerance is making us intolerant of other people’s intolerance, which is intolerable. And, unlikely as it sounds, this has now become the highest, most rarefied form of multiculturalism. So you’re nice to gays and the Inuit? Big deal. Anyone can be tolerant of fellows like that, but tolerance of intolerance gives an even more intense frisson of pleasure to the multiculti masochists. In other words, just as the AIDS pandemic greatly facilitated societal surrender to the gay agenda, so 9/11 is greatly facilitating our surrender to the most extreme aspects of the multicultural agenda.

For example, one day in 2004, a couple of Canadians returned home, to Lester B. Pearson International Airport in Toronto. They were the son and widow of a fellow called Ahmed Said Khadr, who back on the Pakistani-Afghan frontier was known as “al-Kanadi.” Why? Because he was the highest-ranking Canadian in al Qaeda—plenty of other Canucks in al Qaeda but he was the Numero Uno. In fact, one could argue that the Khadr family is Canada’s principal contribution to the war on terror. Granted they’re on the wrong side (if you’ll forgive me being judgmental) but no can argue that they aren’t in the thick of things. One of Mr. Khadr’s sons was captured in Afghanistan after killing a U.S. Special Forces medic. Another was captured and held at Guantanamo. A third blew himself up while killing a Canadian soldier in Kabul. Pa Khadr himself died in an al Qaeda shoot-out with Pakistani forces in early 2004. And they say we Canadians aren’t doing our bit in this war!

In the course of the fatal shoot-out of al-Kanadi, his youngest son was paralyzed. And, not unreasonably, Junior didn’t fancy a prison hospital in Peshawar. So Mrs. Khadr and her boy returned to Toronto so he could enjoy the benefits of Ontario government healthcare. “I’m Canadian, and I’m not begging for my rights,” declared the widow Khadr. “I’m demanding my rights.”

As they always say, treason’s hard to prove in court, but given the circumstances of Mr. Khadr’s death it seems clear that not only was he providing “aid and comfort to the Queen’s enemies” but that he was, in fact, the Queen’s enemy. The Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry, the Royal 22nd Regiment, and other Canucks have been participating in Afghanistan, on one side of the conflict, and the Khadr family had been over there participating on the other side. Nonetheless, the Prime Minister of Canada thought Boy Khadr’s claims on the public health system was an excellent opportunity to demonstrate his own deep personal commitment to “diversity.” Asked about the Khadrs’ return to Toronto, he said, “I believe that once you are a Canadian citizen, you have the right to your own views and to disagree.”

That’s the wonderful thing about multiculturalism: you can choose which side of the war you want to fight on. When the draft card arrives, just tick “home team” or “enemy,” according to taste. The Canadian Prime Minister is a typical late-stage western politician: He could have said, well, these are contemptible people and I know many of us are disgusted at the idea of our tax dollars being used to provide health care for a man whose Canadian citizenship is no more than a flag of convenience, but unfortunately that’s the law and, while we can try to tighten it, it looks like this lowlife’s got away with it. Instead, his reflex instinct was to proclaim this as a wholehearted demonstration of the virtues of the multicultural state. Like many enlightened western leaders, the Canadian Prime Minister will be congratulating himself on his boundless tolerance even as the forces of intolerance consume him.

That, by the way, is the one point of similarity between the jihad and conventional terrorist movements like the IRA or ETA. Terror groups persist because of a lack of confidence on the part of their targets: the IRA, for example, calculated correctly that the British had the capability to smash them totally but not the will. So they knew that while they could never win militarily, they also could never be defeated. The Islamists have figured similarly. The only difference is that most terrorist wars are highly localized. We now have the first truly global terrorist insurgency because the Islamists view the whole world the way the IRA view the bogs of Fermanagh: they want it and they’ve calculated that our entire civilization lacks the will to see them off.

We spend a lot of time at The New Criterion attacking the elites and we’re right to do so. The commanding heights of the culture have behaved disgracefully for the last several decades. But, if it were just a problem with the elites, it wouldn’t be that serious: the mob could rise up and hang ’em from lampposts—a scenario that’s not unlikely in certain Continental countries. But the problem now goes way beyond the ruling establishment. The annexation by government of most of the key responsibilities of life—child-raising, taking care of your elderly parents—has profoundly changed the relationship between the citizen and the state. At some point—I would say socialized health care is a good marker—you cross a line, and it’s very hard then to persuade a citizenry enjoying that much government largesse to cross back. In National Review recently, I took issue with that line Gerald Ford always uses to ingratiate himself with conservative audiences: “A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have.” Actually, you run into trouble long before that point: A government big enough to give you everything you want still isn’t big enough to get you to give anything back. That’s what the French and German political classes are discovering.

Go back to that list of local conflicts I mentioned. The jihad has held out a long time against very tough enemies. If you’re not shy about taking on the Israelis, the Russians, the Indians, and the Nigerians, why wouldn’t you fancy your chances against the Belgians and Danes and New Zealanders?

So the jihadists are for the most part doing no more than giving us a prod in the rear as we sleepwalk to the cliff. When I say “sleepwalk,” it’s not because we’re a blasé culture. On the contrary, one of the clearest signs of our decline is the way we expend so much energy worrying about the wrong things. If you’ve read Jared Diamond’s bestselling book Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed, you’ll know it goes into a lot of detail about Easter Island going belly up because they chopped down all their trees. Apparently that’s why they’re not a G8 member or on the UN Security Council. Same with the Greenlanders and the Mayans and Diamond’s other curious choices of “societies.” Indeed, as the author sees it, pretty much every society collapses because it chops down its trees.

Poor old Diamond can’t see the forest because of his obsession with the trees. (Russia’s collapsing even as it’s undergoing reforestation.) One way “societies choose to fail or succeed” is by choosing what to worry about. The western world has delivered more wealth and more comfort to more of its citizens than any other civilization in history, and in return we’ve developed a great cult of worrying. You know the classics of the genre: In 1968, in his bestselling book The Population Bomb, the eminent scientist Paul Ehrlich declared: “In the 1970s the world will undergo famines—hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death.” In 1972, in their landmark study The Limits to Growth, the Club of Rome announced that the world would run out of gold by 1981, of mercury by 1985, tin by 1987, zinc by 1990, petroleum by 1992, and copper, lead, and gas by 1993.

None of these things happened. In fact, quite the opposite is happening. We’re pretty much awash in resources, but we’re running out of people—the one truly indispensable resource, without which none of the others matter. Russia’s the most obvious example: it’s the largest country on earth, it’s full of natural resources, and yet it’s dying—its population is falling calamitously.

The default mode of our elites is that anything that happens—from terrorism to tsunamis—can be understood only as deriving from the perniciousness of western civilization. As Jean-François Revel wrote, “Clearly, a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself.”

And even though none of the prognostications of the eco-doom blockbusters of the 1970s came to pass, all that means is that thirty years on, the end of the world has to be rescheduled. The amended estimated time of arrival is now 2032. That’s to say, in 2002, the United Nations Global Environmental Outlook predicted “the destruction of 70 percent of the natural world in thirty years, mass extinction of species… . More than half the world will be afflicted by water shortages, with 95 percent of people in the Middle East with severe problems … 25 percent of all species of mammals and 10 percent of birds will be extinct …”

Etc., etc., for 450 pages. Or to cut to the chase, as The Guardian headlined it, “Unless We Change Our Ways, The World Faces Disaster.”

Well, here’s my prediction for 2032: unless we change our ways the world faces a future … where the environment will look pretty darn good. If you’re a tree or a rock, you’ll be living in clover. It’s the Italians and the Swedes who’ll be facing extinction and the loss of their natural habitat.

There will be no environmental doomsday. Oil, carbon dioxide emissions, deforestation: none of these things is worth worrying about. What’s worrying is that we spend so much time worrying about things that aren’t worth worrying about that we don’t worry about the things we should be worrying about. For thirty years, we’ve had endless wake-up calls for things that aren’t worth waking up for. But for the very real, remorseless shifts in our society—the ones truly jeopardizing our future—we’re sound asleep. The world is changing dramatically right now and hysterical experts twitter about a hypothetical decrease in the Antarctic krill that might conceivably possibly happen so far down the road there’s unlikely to be any Italian or Japanese enviro-worriers left alive to be devastated by it.

In a globalized economy, the environmentalists want us to worry about First World capitalism imposing its ways on bucolic, pastoral, primitive Third World backwaters. Yet, insofar as “globalization” is a threat, the real danger is precisely the opposite—that the peculiarities of the backwaters can leap instantly to the First World. Pigs are valued assets and sleep in the living room in rural China—and next thing you know an unknown respiratory disease is killing people in Toronto, just because someone got on a plane. That’s the way to look at Islamism: we fret about McDonald’s and Disney, but the big globalization success story is the way the Saudis have taken what was eighty years ago a severe but obscure and unimportant strain of Islam practiced by Bedouins of no fixed abode and successfully exported it to the heart of Copenhagen, Rotterdam, Manchester, Buffalo …

What’s the better bet? A globalization that exports cheeseburgers and pop songs or a globalization that exports the fiercest aspects of its culture? When it comes to forecasting the future, the birth rate is the nearest thing to hard numbers. If only a million babies are born in 2006, it’s hard to have two million adults enter the workforce in 2026 (or 2033, or 2037, or whenever they get around to finishing their Anger Management and Queer Studies degrees). And the hard data on babies around the western world is that they’re running out a lot faster than the oil is. “Replacement” fertility rate—i.e., the number you need for merely a stable population, not getting any bigger, not getting any smaller—is 2.1 babies per woman. Some countries are well above that: the global fertility leader, Somalia, is 6.91, Niger 6.83, Afghanistan 6.78, Yemen 6.75. Notice what those nations have in common?

Scroll way down to the bottom of the Hot One Hundred top breeders and you’ll eventually find the United States, hovering just at replacement rate with 2.07 births per woman. Ireland is 1.87, New Zealand 1.79, Australia 1.76. But Canada’s fertility rate is down to 1.5, well below replacement rate; Germany and Austria are at 1.3, the brink of the death spiral; Russia and Italy are at 1.2; Spain 1.1, about half replacement rate. That’s to say, Spain’s population is halving every generation. By 2050, Italy’s population will have fallen by 22 percent, Bulgaria’s by 36 percent, Estonia’s by 52 percent. In America, demographic trends suggest that the blue states ought to apply for honorary membership of the EU: in the 2004 election, John Kerry won the sixteen with the lowest birth rates; George W. Bush took twenty-five of the twenty-six states with the highest. By 2050, there will be 100 million fewer Europeans, 100 million more Americans—and mostly red-state Americans.

As fertility shrivels, societies get older—and Japan and much of Europe are set to get older than any functioning societies have ever been. And we know what comes after old age. These countries are going out of business—unless they can find the will to change their ways. Is that likely? I don’t think so. If you look at European election results—most recently in Germany—it’s hard not to conclude that, while voters are unhappy with their political establishments, they’re unhappy mainly because they resent being asked to reconsider their government benefits and, no matter how unaffordable they may be a generation down the road, they have no intention of seriously reconsidering them. The Scottish executive recently backed down from a proposal to raise the retirement age of Scottish public workers. It’s presently sixty, which is nice but unaffordable. But the reaction of the average Scots worker is that that’s somebody else’s problem. The average German worker now puts in 22 percent fewer hours per year than his American counterpart, and no politician who wishes to remain electorally viable will propose closing the gap in any meaningful way.

This isn’t a deep-rooted cultural difference between the Old World and the New. It dates back all the way to, oh, the 1970s. If one wanted to allocate blame, one could argue that it’s a product of the U.S. military presence, the American security guarantee that liberated European budgets: instead of having to spend money on guns, they could concentrate on butter, and buttering up the voters. If Washington’s problem with Europe is that these are not serious allies, well, whose fault is that? Who, in the years after the Second World War, created NATO as a post-modern military alliance? The “free world,” as the Americans called it, was a free ride for everyone else. And having been absolved from the primal responsibilities of nationhood, it’s hardly surprising that European nations have little wish to re-shoulder them. In essence, the lavish levels of public health care on the Continent are subsidized by the American taxpayer. And this long-term softening of large sections of the west makes them ill-suited to resisting a primal force like Islam.

There is no “population bomb.” There never was. Birth rates are declining all over the world—eventually every couple on the planet may decide to opt for the western yuppie model of one designer baby at the age of thirty-nine. But demographics is a game of last man standing. The groups that succumb to demographic apathy last will have a huge advantage. Even in 1968 Paul Ehrlich and his ilk should have understood that their so-called “population explosion” was really a massive population adjustment. Of the increase in global population between 1970 and 2000, the developed world accounted for under 9 percent of it, while the Muslim world accounted for 26 percent of the increase. Between 1970 and 2000, the developed world declined from just under 30 percent of the world’s population to just over 20 percent, the Muslim nations increased from about 15 percent to 20 percent.

1970 doesn’t seem that long ago. If you’re the age many of the chaps running the western world today are wont to be, your pants are narrower than they were back then and your hair’s less groovy, but the landscape of your life—the look of your house, the lay-out of your car, the shape of your kitchen appliances, the brand names of the stuff in the fridge—isn’t significantly different. Aside from the Internet and the cellphone and the CD, everything in your world seems pretty much the same but slightly modified.

And yet the world is utterly altered. Just to recap those bald statistics: In 1970, the developed world had twice as big a share of the global population as the Muslim world: 30 percent to 15 percent. By 2000, they were the same: each had about 20 percent.

And by 2020?

So the world’s people are a lot more Islamic than they were back then and a lot less “western.” Europe is significantly more Islamic, having taken in during that period some 20 million Muslims (officially)—or the equivalents of the populations of four European Union countries (Ireland, Belgium, Denmark, and Estonia). Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the west: in the UK, more Muslims than Christians attend religious services each week.

Can these trends continue for another thirty years without having consequences? Europe by the end of this century will be a continent after the neutron bomb: the grand buildings will still be standing but the people who built them will be gone. We are living through a remarkable period: the self-extinction of the races who, for good or ill, shaped the modern world.

What will Europe be like at the end of this process? Who knows? On the one hand, there’s something to be said for the notion that America will find an Islamified Europe more straightforward to deal with than Monsieur Chirac, Herr Schröder, and Co. On the other hand, given Europe’s track record, getting there could be very bloody. But either way this is the real battlefield. The al Qaeda nutters can never find enough suicidal pilots to fly enough planes into enough skyscrapers to topple America. But, unlike us, the Islamists think long-term, and, given their demographic advantage in Europe and the tone of the emerging Muslim lobby groups there, much of what they’re flying planes into buildings for they’re likely to wind up with just by waiting a few more years. The skyscrapers will be theirs; why knock ’em over?

The latter half of the decline and fall of great civilizations follows a familiar pattern: affluence, softness, decadence, extinction. You don’t notice yourself slipping through those stages because usually there’s a seductive pol on hand to provide the age with a sly, self-deluding slogan—like Bill Clinton’s “It’s about the future of all our children.” We on the right spent the 1990s gleefully mocking Clinton’s tedious invocation, drizzled like syrup over everything from the Kosovo war to highway appropriations. But most of the rest of the west can’t even steal his lame bromides: A society that has no children has no future.

Permanence is the illusion of every age. In 1913, no one thought the Russian, Austrian, German, and Turkish empires would be gone within half a decade. Seventy years on, all those fellows who dismissed Reagan as an “amiable dunce” (in Clark Clifford’s phrase) assured us the Soviet Union was likewise here to stay. The CIA analysts’ position was that East Germany was the ninth biggest economic power in the world. In 1987 there was no rash of experts predicting the imminent fall of the Berlin Wall, the Warsaw Pact, and the USSR itself.

Yet, even by the minimal standards of these wretched precedents, so-called “post-Christian” civilizations—as a prominent EU official described his continent to me—are more prone than traditional societies to mistake the present tense for a permanent feature. Religious cultures have a much greater sense of both past and future, as we did a century ago, when we spoke of death as joining “the great majority” in “the unseen world.” But if secularism’s starting point is that this is all there is, it’s no surprise that, consciously or not, they invest the here and now with far greater powers of endurance than it’s ever had. The idea that progressive Euro-welfarism is the permanent resting place of human development was always foolish; we now know that it’s suicidally so.

To avoid collapse, European nations will need to take in immigrants at a rate no stable society has ever attempted. The CIA is predicting the EU will collapse by 2020. Given that the CIA’s got pretty much everything wrong for half a century, that would suggest the EU is a shoo-in to be the colossus of the new millennium. But even a flop spook is right twice a generation. If anything, the date of EU collapse is rather a cautious estimate. It seems more likely that within the next couple of European election cycles, the internal contradictions of the EU will manifest themselves in the usual way, and that by 2010 we’ll be watching burning buildings, street riots, and assassinations on American network news every night. Even if they avoid that, the idea of a childless Europe ever rivaling America militarily or economically is laughable. Sometime this century there will be 500 million Americans, and what’s left in Europe will either be very old or very Muslim. Japan faces the same problem: its population is already in absolute decline, the first gentle slope of a death spiral it will be unlikely ever to climb out of. Will Japan be an economic powerhouse if it’s populated by Koreans and Filipinos? Very possibly. Will Germany if it’s populated by Algerians? That’s a trickier proposition.

Best-case scenario? The Continent winds up as Vienna with Swedish tax rates.

Worst-case scenario: Sharia, circa 2040; semi-Sharia, a lot sooner—and we’re already seeing a drift in that direction.

In July 2003, speaking to the United States Congress, Tony Blair remarked: “As Britain knows, all predominant power seems for a time invincible but, in fact, it is transient. The question is: What do you leave behind?”

Excellent question. Britannia will never again wield the unrivalled power she enjoyed at her imperial apogee, but the Britannic inheritance endures, to one degree or another, in many of the key regional players in the world today—Australia, India, South Africa—and in dozens of island statelets from the Caribbean to the Pacific. If China ever takes its place as an advanced nation, it will be because the People’s Republic learns more from British Hong Kong than Hong Kong learns from the Little Red Book. And of course the dominant power of our time derives its political character from eighteenth-century British subjects who took English ideas a little further than the mother country was willing to go.

A decade and a half after victory in the Cold War and end-of-history triumphalism, the “what do you leave behind?” question is more urgent than most of us expected. “The west,” as a concept, is dead, and the west, as a matter of demographic fact, is dying.

What will London—or Paris, or Amsterdam—be like in the mid-Thirties? If European politicians make no serious attempt this decade to wean the populace off their unsustainable thirty-five-hour weeks, retirement at sixty, etc., then to keep the present level of pensions and health benefits the EU will need to import so many workers from North Africa and the Middle East that it will be well on its way to majority Muslim by 2035. As things stand, Muslims are already the primary source of population growth in English cities. Can a society become increasingly Islamic in its demographic character without becoming increasingly Islamic in its political character?

This ought to be the left’s issue. I’m a conservative—I’m not entirely on board with the Islamist program when it comes to beheading sodomites and so on, but I agree Britney Spears dresses like a slut: I’m with Mullah Omar on that one. Why then, if your big thing is feminism or abortion or gay marriage, are you so certain that the cult of tolerance will prevail once the biggest demographic in your society is cheerfully intolerant? Who, after all, are going to be the first victims of the west’s collapsed birth rates? Even if one were to take the optimistic view that Europe will be able to resist the creeping imposition of Sharia currently engulfing Nigeria, it remains the case that the Muslim world is not notable for setting much store by “a woman’s right to choose,” in any sense. I watched that big abortion rally in Washington last year, where Ashley Judd and Gloria Steinem were cheered by women waving “Keep your Bush off my bush” placards, and I thought it was the equivalent of a White Russian tea party in 1917. By prioritizing a “woman’s right to choose,” western women are delivering their societies into the hands of fellows far more patriarchal than a 1950s sitcom dad. If any of those women marching for their “reproductive rights” still have babies, they might like to ponder demographic realities: A little girl born today will be unlikely, at the age of forty, to be free to prance around demonstrations in Eurabian Paris or Amsterdam chanting “Hands off my bush!”

Just before the 2004 election, that eminent political analyst Cameron Diaz appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show to explain what was at stake:

“Women have so much to lose. I mean, we could lose the right to our bodies… . If you think that rape should be legal, then don’t vote. But if you think that you have a right to your body,” she advised Oprah’s viewers, “then you should vote.”

Poor Cameron. A couple of weeks later, the scary people won. She lost all rights to her body. Unlike Alec Baldwin, she couldn’t even move to France. Her body was grounded in Terminal D.

But, after framing the 2004 Presidential election as a referendum on the right to rape, Miss Diaz might be interested to know that men enjoy that right under many Islamic legal codes around the world. In his book The Empty Cradle, Philip Longman asks: “So where will the children of the future come from? Increasingly they will come from people who are at odds with the modern world. Such a trend, if sustained, could drive human culture off its current market-driven, individualistic, modernist course, gradually creating an anti-market culture dominated by fundamentalism—a new Dark Ages.”

Bottom line for Cameron Diaz: There are worse things than John Ashcroft out there.

Longman’s point is well taken. The refined antennae of western liberals mean that, whenever one raises the question of whether there will be any Italians living in the geographical zone marked as Italy a generation or three hence, they cry, “Racism!” To fret about what proportion of the population is “white” is grotesque and inappropriate. But it’s not about race, it’s about culture. If 100 percent of your population believes in liberal pluralist democracy, it doesn’t matter whether 70 percent of them are “white” or only 5 percent are. But, if one part of your population believes in liberal pluralist democracy and the other doesn’t, then it becomes a matter of great importance whether the part that does is 9 percent of the population or only 60, 50, 45 percent.

Since the President unveiled the so-called Bush Doctrine—the plan to promote liberty throughout the Arab world—innumerable “progressives” have routinely asserted that there’s no evidence Muslims want liberty and, indeed, Islam is incompatible with democracy. If that’s true, it’s a problem not for the Middle East today but for Europe the day after tomorrow. According to a poll taken in 2004, over 60 percent of British Muslims want to live under sharia—in the United Kingdom. If a population “at odds with the modern world” is the fastest-breeding group on the planet—if there are more Muslim nations, more fundamentalist Muslims within those nations, more and more Muslims within non-Muslim nations, and more and more Muslims represented in more and more transnational institutions—how safe a bet is the survival of the “modern world”?

Not good.

“What do you leave behind?” asked Tony Blair. There will only be very few and very old ethnic Germans and French and Italians by the midpoint of this century. What will they leave behind? Territories that happen to bear their names and keep up some of the old buildings? Or will the dying European races understand that the only legacy that matters is whether the peoples who will live in those lands after them are reconciled to pluralist, liberal democracy? It’s the demography, stupid. And, if they can’t muster the will to change course, then “what do you leave behind?” is the only question that matters.


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While there are other posted articles on FR with this title, this seems to be a new article by Steyn, elaborating on themes he has written about elsewhere.
1 posted on 01/01/2006 2:52:43 PM PST by twntaipan
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To: twntaipan

ping to read later


2 posted on 01/01/2006 2:53:52 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: vrwc0915

Do not try to read this article with a hangover! LOL


3 posted on 01/01/2006 2:56:51 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

Or a laptotp as I was :)


4 posted on 01/01/2006 2:57:38 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: twntaipan

Every time I try to read this I start to fall asleep. I sure he has great pointszzzzzzz, wait, thatwasgreatzzzzzzzzzz.


5 posted on 01/01/2006 3:08:27 PM PST by DariusBane (I do not separate people, as do the narrow-minded, into Greeks and barbarians.)
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To: twntaipan
Not dissimilar from Mr. Steyn's speech at The Claremont Institute's Churchill Dinner in early December. Of course, both efforts are treasures and should be required listening/reading.
6 posted on 01/01/2006 3:08:36 PM PST by CreviceTool
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To: twntaipan

Bumped to read more in depth later....


7 posted on 01/01/2006 3:18:00 PM PST by EverOnward (help support our hero soldiers at anysoldier.com)
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To: twntaipan

This is longer and less amusing than the typical Steyn article. But it's a wake-up call on the most serious issue confronting the west today. Namely, the fact that most of the civilized world as we know it--Europe, Japan, Russia--are going to die unless they act much more decisively than they are likely too within the next ten or fifteen years.

Steyn does his best not to preach to the choir but to try to wake up the sleep-walkers who are taking Western civilization to its death, while they worry about trivial issues instead of confronting the real problem.

I'm sending this one out to my list, not that most of them will probably make the necessary effort to understand it.


8 posted on 01/01/2006 3:24:07 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: twntaipan

THIS is what the war is all about. And Steyn is right: we're losing.


9 posted on 01/01/2006 3:29:07 PM PST by Clioman
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To: twntaipan
Religion (Christian, with a nod to Islam, Hinduism, Sikkhsm--it's the 4th largest religion with 40 million, and Judaism), patriotism, fiscal and social conservatism, realistic altruism (helping hand, not hand-out) -- sounds like we need a return to the past.

Sounds like we need marriages that last and bigger families. Sounds like we need to TRY to educate our population to read, write, spell and pass a drug test. :o) But, then, all that requires self-sacrifice, cooperation, chemical independence and dumping the me-me-me, victimhood, government-nannyism, return to the old fashioned ethic of, in this order, education, job, marriage, children.

European countries HAVE been financially bribing their population to produce children and more that 1-2 children for 25 years, at least.
They HAVE BEEN accepting non-European immigrants. The consequences will occur and they will never be acceptable to either side, especially when our media take over and disseminate the pros and cons, blaming countries with their standard onslaught of any European country's past.
Each European country WILL handle their future as best they can. THAT also will fail the U.S. smell test because....just because of our anti-Euro-attitude.

The Muslim countries, especially the Arab countries, will always be wrong. That's a given.

The "others" (I name India, China....since they have a combined population of 2.3 billion, 1/3 of the world.) will struggle along, emerging with "fresh, hopeful and new" with accompanying news stories, movies and books portraying the equally vivid squalor and corruption. Nothing new there either.

NOTHING will change in the future. Human nature will be IDENTICAL as it is today and was 60,000 years ago. We are merely healthier, live longer, better educated and have high tech stuff. We aren't ONE iota smarter, wiser, nicer, better or happier.

Things will be re-arranged, as the author writes. That is the no-brainer prediction of all times. He's saying that the sun will shine and the snow will fall.

America can survive but it has to move MORE towards what we used to be. For too many that won't be possible. We CAN do it. Who knows if we will. I think we will.
One thing for sure: our media won't like it, think it's good enough or accept that anything we achieve is good.

I think we are the BEST. Whatever we are doing is making us the BEST. Author is wrong, mostly, but not completely.

10 posted on 01/01/2006 3:35:01 PM PST by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: twntaipan
Religion (Christian, with a nod to Islam, Hinduism, Sikkhsm--it's the 4th largest religion with 40 million, and Judaism), patriotism, fiscal and social conservatism, realistic altruism (helping hand, not hand-out) -- sounds like we need a return to the past.

Sounds like we need marriages that last and bigger families. Sounds like we need to TRY to educate our population to read, write, spell and pass a drug test. :o) But, then, all that requires self-sacrifice, cooperation, chemical independence and dumping the me-me-me, victimhood, government-nannyism, return to the old fashioned ethic of, in this order, education, job, marriage, children.

European countries HAVE been financially bribing their population to produce children and more that 1-2 children for 25 years, at least.
They HAVE BEEN accepting non-European immigrants. The consequences will occur and they will never be acceptable to either side, especially when our media take over and disseminate the pros and cons, blaming countries with their standard onslaught of any European country's past.
Each European country WILL handle their future as best they can. THAT also will fail the U.S. smell test because....just because of our anti-Euro-attitude.

The Muslim countries, especially the Arab countries, will always be wrong. That's a given.

The "others" (I name India, China....since they have a combined population of 2.3 billion, 1/3 of the world.) will struggle along, emerging with "fresh, hopeful and new" with accompanying news stories, movies and books portraying the equally vivid squalor and corruption. Nothing new there either.

NOTHING will change in the future. Human nature will be IDENTICAL as it is today and was 60,000 years ago. We are merely healthier, live longer, better educated and have high tech stuff. We aren't ONE iota smarter, wiser, nicer, better or happier.

Things will be re-arranged, as the author writes. That is the no-brainer prediction of all times. He's saying that the sun will shine and the snow will fall.

America can survive but it has to move MORE towards what we used to be. For too many that won't be possible. We CAN do it. Who knows if we will. I think we will.
One thing for sure: our media won't like it, think it's good enough or accept that anything we achieve is good.

I think we are the BEST. Whatever we are doing is making us the BEST. Author is wrong, mostly, but not completely.

11 posted on 01/01/2006 3:35:47 PM PST by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: twntaipan

Bump!


12 posted on 01/01/2006 3:36:05 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: DariusBane
Every time I try to read this I start to fall asleep. I sure he has great pointszzzzzzz, wait, thatwasgreatzzzzzzzzzz.

"But, if one part of your population believes in liberal pluralist democracy and the other doesn’t, then it becomes a matter of great importance whether the part that does is 9 percent of the population or only 60, 50, 45 percent."

For 9 read 90.

Look sharp, feel sharp, be sharp.

13 posted on 01/01/2006 3:37:11 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: twntaipan

SORRY for the double post. I'm in Waikiki at an Internet Cafe and I haven't got the rhythm down yet.


14 posted on 01/01/2006 3:37:40 PM PST by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: dr_lew
It is a great article, I will just PING for later. When I don't suffer from Post News Years Eve ADD.
15 posted on 01/01/2006 3:42:41 PM PST by DariusBane (I do not separate people, as do the narrow-minded, into Greeks and barbarians.)
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To: twntaipan; rmlew; Prime Choice
If European politicians make no serious attempt this decade to wean the populace off their unsustainable thirty-five-hour weeks, retirement at sixty, etc., then to keep the present level of pensions and health benefits the EU will need to import so many workers from North Africa and the Middle East that it will be well on its way to majority Muslim by 2035.

Of course once Muslims become the voting majority in EU countries, why should they want to pay taxes to support Dhimmies? Shouldn't that be the other way around? Isn't it customary for Dhimmies to pay taxes to ensure their right to live?

16 posted on 01/01/2006 3:46:17 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Happy New Year!)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Ping!

This guy knows how to write. He must be the time-warped love child of Ann Coulter and Victor Davis Hansen ;-)

Cheers!

...oh, and Happy New Year!

17 posted on 01/01/2006 3:56:21 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: twntaipan
Excellent post. How someone could fall asleep reading this, I have no idea. And I read it on my laptop -- don't know what that problem was.

The dominance of oil money in the world economy, and the abundance of oil in the Middle East and Southern Russia is creating a massive bias, for over a half century now, pulling money and power from Western Civilization, dominated by former British colonies, to Islam.

Behind the successful blocking of oil drilling and refining expansion in the West are no doubt the powers built on the oil money going to Russia and the Middle East. They obviously don't want the competition.

Money funds babies. Babies drive demographics. Big aggressive civilizations over run shrinking decadent civilizations.

Damn ... just damn.

Just as I will grow old and die, so will the freedom loving culture that has served humanity so well these last couple centuries.

One can only extend the years of relative health, and delay the burial.

18 posted on 01/01/2006 4:00:30 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (The distrust of authority is a deeply destructive force in the hands of evil men.)
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To: twntaipan
Civilizations are born, they rise, they decline, they fall. The history of man has no other record and anyone who believes that the US or any European nation will be the first to change history is sadly mistaken. The fall of many civilizations have been marked by some of the same decadence that we are observing in our own culture. Rome for instance permitted a child to be abandoned at birth to starve to death if the father declined to accept it and the practice of homosexuality and pedophilia was common among the ruling classes.
19 posted on 01/01/2006 4:02:00 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: DariusBane

This was one of his most serious, most important articles. Reread it when you're not hung over.


20 posted on 01/01/2006 4:09:08 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Tenure is the enemy of excellence.)
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To: twntaipan

THIS is what the war is all about. And Steyn is right: we're losing.


21 posted on 01/01/2006 4:20:02 PM PST by Clioman
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To: twntaipan

That Steyn is a boy genius!


22 posted on 01/01/2006 4:20:50 PM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: twntaipan

Most depressing.

This article, makes me want to buy lots of gold and guns.

We are at war, a war that many do not see. I hope Steyn is wrong.


23 posted on 01/01/2006 4:24:51 PM PST by Pondman88
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To: twntaipan

This seems much the same view as Pat Buchanan has been expounding for the last ten years. Mark S. seems to have written off Europe--or at least most of it. It will be interesting to see if a major backlash develops on that continent to the Islamic tsunnami. Certainly the left doesn't seem capable of self-preservation. The US might be the lynch pin, but it might take a new civil war to achieve a non-suicidal society.


24 posted on 01/01/2006 4:27:09 PM PST by Faraday
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To: Faraday

If a backlash to the Islamic tsunami is to occur, it will take Europe (and liberalism in the USA) abandoning many of its core values--I don't think that will happen.


25 posted on 01/01/2006 4:35:12 PM PST by twntaipan (Liberals: Eternally stuck on stupid.)
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To: twntaipan

We need to CHOP taxes so that families larger than 2 or 3 are no longer the province of the wealthy, the eccentric, and those on welfare.


26 posted on 01/01/2006 4:41:21 PM PST by ikka
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To: Paleo Conservative

Yep. it's called the jizya. All dhimmis are required to pay. Failure to do so is considered a just cause for execution, rape, or torture. I note that Steyn unfortunately continues to indulge in the myth that jihad is some sort of radical idea of a few "Islamofascists", when in fact it is as central to Islam as the resurrection is to Christianity.


27 posted on 01/01/2006 4:47:36 PM PST by Bogolyubski
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To: mlc9852

It was a great article: make sure you do make the attempt to read it.


28 posted on 01/01/2006 4:48:46 PM PST by Koblenz (Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
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I did read quite a bit and it is very good. I'll read the rest later.


29 posted on 01/01/2006 5:00:21 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: twntaipan
Thank you for this post. I think this might be the best of the best of Steyn....

Happpy NeewwYeeeeear!

FMCDH(BITS)

31 posted on 01/01/2006 5:08:55 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: grey_whiskers
Thanks for the ping, g_w. Steyn is first-rate...and mostly correct, I fear. I wonder, though, whether muslims are going to be able to master the skills necessary to run the modern world when they inherit it. Right now, they look through the window and covet what's inside (or firebomb the cars parked on the street outside), but they don't seem to possess the ability to produce what's inside for themselves. Will that change? I wonder.

Happy New Year, my friend...

32 posted on 01/01/2006 5:14:57 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: twntaipan
our tolerance of our own tolerance is making us intolerant of other people’s intolerance, which is intolerable. And, unlikely as it sounds, this has now become the highest, most rarefied form of multiculturalism. So you’re nice to gays and the Inuit? Big deal. Anyone can be tolerant of fellows like that, but tolerance of intolerance gives an even more intense frisson of pleasure to the multiculti masochists. In other words, just as the AIDS pandemic greatly facilitated societal surrender to the gay agenda, so 9/11 is greatly facilitating our surrender to the most extreme aspects of the multicultural agenda.

OMG, I fear Steyn's on to something here...

33 posted on 01/01/2006 5:17:20 PM PST by GOPJ (Happy New Year!)
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To: Richard Kimball

Come on guys, I'm on vacation... Don't be so serious... Unitil tuesday at least.


34 posted on 01/01/2006 5:25:15 PM PST by DariusBane (I do not separate people, as do the narrow-minded, into Greeks and barbarians.)
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To: ThePythonicCow
Doing my part to fight for the west :)
I proudly served my country until injuries cut my military career short, now I have 4 children and one on the way, This might actual work out in out benefit as at least in the Midwest it's the conservatives that have large families all the liberal snobs are to busy for a child or only have one then get fixed so they are breeding themselves out of existence
35 posted on 01/01/2006 5:27:25 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: Richard Kimball
And yes, I am aware that the West suffers from a lack of confidence in it's intrinsic "rightness" and moral authority. Combine that with a declining birthrate and you have real trouble...But not until Tuesday!
36 posted on 01/01/2006 5:31:47 PM PST by DariusBane (I do not separate people, as do the narrow-minded, into Greeks and barbarians.)
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To: twntaipan

bump for later read


37 posted on 01/01/2006 5:42:14 PM PST by albee ("Those that bite the hand that feeds them will lick the boot that kicks them!" - Eric Hoffer)
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To: twntaipan
L8R



38 posted on 01/01/2006 5:43:41 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: ikka
We need to CHOP taxes so that families larger than 2 or 3 are no longer the province of the wealthy, the eccentric, and those on welfare.

The only people that can afford large families are very rich or the very poor.

40 posted on 01/01/2006 6:32:09 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: kevinjdeanna
Can Europe be saved

Yes, but it will probably require a war.

41 posted on 01/01/2006 6:33:46 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: GOPJ
An analogy with the human immune system comes to mind.

The healthiest humans have an active immune system, that won't hesitate to kill rogue cells, while doing a pretty good job of leaving healthy cells alone.

It can err on either side, killing you with an autoimmune disease, or letting you be killed by infection. For this to work, the immune system must have both strong weapons and a well developed sense of what cells are good and what ones are bad. And just because a cell was good yesterday, doesn't give it a free ticket today (yes, John McCain - that means you, and many others.)

Tyranny, fascism, and such are like an overly aggressive immune system, killing off healthy cells. Anarchy is like a too weak immune system, letting sick cells proliferate.

For governments to work best, they must enforce some rules, and weed out the bad guys from the good. The more rabid libertarians who would denounce any government authority to spy on, imprison, and kill people, both its citizens and foreigners, are asking us to descend into anarchy, and be killed by the evil infections abundant in the world.

Our police, intelligence and military need to be strong, and need to be smart - doing their best to apply overwhelming force to the bad guys, while letting the good guys go freely about their business. It won't be perfect, but going to either extreme of tyranny or anarchy is far worse, as human history and current events have shown again and again and again.

Every time we let Political Correctness or Leftist politics impose some constraint on what our armed forces, spies or cops can do, we limit the power and flexibility of our cultural immune system. Occasionally, that's a good idea, if a particular power is more often misused than not. Usually, it's a bad idea.

We must not only tolerate some intolerance; our culture's life depends on it.

42 posted on 01/01/2006 6:35:22 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (The distrust of authority is a deeply destructive force in the hands of evil men.)
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To: twntaipan

Mark Steyn Magnum Opus ping


43 posted on 01/01/2006 7:00:46 PM PST by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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To: starfish923
I know of one smallish church in a rural area on the East Coast where the pastor has 8 children (all home schooled) and the youth/student pastor has 8 children (all home schooled). None are adopted children.

Families like these are the reasons red states are increasing in political clout, and they are exactly what Steyn suggests as an antidote to secular societal suicide.

44 posted on 01/01/2006 7:05:59 PM PST by twntaipan (Liberals: Eternally stuck on stupid.)
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To: twntaipan
There is an other force at play here, which may have a major impact on the result.

The rapid advances in technology, computing and communications continue to wash over human civilization, with increasing speed and force.

I view the rise and dominance of main stream media, not to mention Nazi Germany and Communist Soviet Union, in the last century to be a result of corporate and big government acquiring the means and control of rapid communication and publication before the ordinary person did. Now as us ordinary citizens are gaining similar powers, the main stream media is losing its position of dominance.

In most of the wars fought by these United States, from the Revolution, to the Civil War, to Vietnam, to the misnamed War on Terror, there was vigorous and wide spread dissent. The dominance of daily newspapers and radio broadcasting during World War II, and its control those mostly supporting the war, is the most outstanding exception.

Fifty years ago, the existence of Islamo-Fascists on the Arabian peninsula was of little concern to the average resident of Manhattan. On 9/11, it was of major concern. With the advent of world wide travel and communication, what was once a localized problem has now become a world wide problem.

As with any change, it comes in phases. Some aspects of the change come sooner, some later. We are now seeing the brunt of the changes that made the world so much smaller, putting Afghanistan next door to Manhattan, putting eleventh century fascists on the same flight as Barbara Olson.

But as modern technology, and democratic reform, infiltrate the eleventh century civilization that work up one day to find itself sitting on a big oil patch, they may loose their rabid potency for terrorist destruction.

Just as it would have been hard to predict the rise of FreeRepublic.com by looking at the dominance of big media (television, newspaper, books and radio) between the 1930's and the 1980's, so it will be difficult to predict what will happen to the Islamic civilization, now that it is being flash merged with our civilization.

45 posted on 01/01/2006 7:44:34 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (The distrust of authority is a deeply destructive force in the hands of evil men.)
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To: twntaipan
If you’ve read Jared Diamond’s bestselling book Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed, you’ll know it goes into a lot of detail about Easter Island going belly up because they chopped down all their trees. Apparently that’s why they’re not a G8 member or on the UN Security Council. Same with the Greenlanders and the Mayans and Diamond’s other curious choices of “societies.” Indeed, as the author sees it, pretty much every society collapses because it chops down its trees.

An excellent example is the planet we call Mars.

They cut down all their trees, their oxygen and water dried up, and their population is no where to be found.

Earth is on a similar mission to destroy itself.

And I'm not being sarcastic nor dramatic.
46 posted on 01/01/2006 7:51:17 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (In Memory of Crockett Nicolas, hit and run in the prime of his Cocker Spaniel life, 9/3/05.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
I wonder, though, whether muslims are going to be able to master the skills necessary to run the modern world when they inherit it.

They won't. Too many have the fatalistic inshallah view whereby everything just happens because it is God's will. An example of this: I heard an Iranian scientist interviewed who was alarmed about the lax building codes in his country. He was upset over all the people who died in earthquakes because the buildings were not made to modern standards. He said he kept approaching officials, saying that modern, earthquake-resistant buildings could save thousands of lives. The officials didn't comprehend what he was saying. The officials told him that if a lot of people died in an earthquake, then it was God's will and no one can question it or do anything about it.

Now picture that same attitude in an Eurabia that has inherited nuclear reactors. Probably a large part of Europe will go Islamic. It is questionable that this population will be able to support itself in the long run if they cannot maintain modern industry and agriculture. Just using my imagination, and I have no special insight, I can imagine 200 years from now an Eurabia in crisis being invaded by the Chinese or Africans. Who knows? Maybe the Africans will re-introduce Christianity to Europe. Enough wild speculation.

47 posted on 01/01/2006 7:52:52 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: twntaipan

"Best case scenario: the Continent winds up as Vienna with Swedish taxes." If that's the best case, all is lost. I've spent time in Vienna. All the taxi drivers are Moslem.


48 posted on 01/01/2006 8:41:13 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: Cicero

"Namely, the fact that most of the civilized world as we know it--Europe, Japan, Russia--are going to die unless they act much more decisively than they are likely too within the next ten or fifteen years."

They've got to act decisively to have children, that is what it is. That's really not such an awful thing. If you could just get most women to have three children you could turn this whole demographic suicide bomb around in a generation, I'd bet. Two generations at most. That's how long it's taken to get us into this mess.

For this we can truly thank the Feminazis, stiking lefty commies that they always were.


49 posted on 01/01/2006 9:03:11 PM PST by jocon307 (Still mourning the loss of CBS FM)
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To: jocon307

They need to do two things: have children, and start moving the Muslims back to the Middle East and North Africa.

And they have to change their values, putting self-defense and hard work ahead of living high off the welfare hog.

What Steyn only makes partly clear is that demography is destiny, for at least for twenty years out. Because if Europeans started to make more babies tomorrow, it would still be twenty or twenty-five years before they grew up and joined the work force--depending on whether they finished college first. The dearth of young workers now is the result of selfish decisions made twenty or thirty or forty years ago.


50 posted on 01/01/2006 9:09:41 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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