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Revote today [Dover, PA school board]
York Daily Record [Penna] ^ | 03 January 2006 | TOM JOYCE

Posted on 01/03/2006 12:12:37 PM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: BenLurkin
but either way they should have a greater say in what their kids are taught.

I wouldn't think conservatives would want their kids taught useless bunk in science class. That's what homes are for.

41 posted on 01/03/2006 12:56:59 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: BenLurkin

"Problem is. . . the good folks of Dover aren't Hindus. Turns out they may not be Christians either -- but either way they should have a greater say in what their kids are taught."

Parent have the ultimate responsibility of teaching religious beliefs to their offspring. Science is not religion, and most parents are not competent to teach science to their kids. Religion, on the other hand, should never be taught by government. It is a personal matter, and nothing the government should meddle in.


42 posted on 01/03/2006 12:57:32 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: mlc9852
Did the leeches work?

He died.

43 posted on 01/03/2006 12:57:51 PM PST by peyton randolph (<a href="http://clinton.senate.gov/">shrew</a>)
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To: mlc9852

"Did the leeches work?"

Nope. They did little good, and often much harm. The "bleeding" cure is only useful in Polycythemia Vera, a disease where the body creates too many red blood cells. It's rare, and it's unlikely that Washington had it.


44 posted on 01/03/2006 1:00:30 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: BenLurkin
You evidently haven't gotten the memo: Evolution does not cover the origin of life.

Also, note: ID is not science. ID's biggest proponents even said so on the stand in Dover. Why, pray-tell, would you find it necessary to bring up something not science and place it on an equal footing with science in a science class?

45 posted on 01/03/2006 1:01:02 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: peyton randolph

Everyone dies.


46 posted on 01/03/2006 1:01:05 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: peyton randolph

Sounds good. I wasn't arguing with you, just adding information.


47 posted on 01/03/2006 1:02:01 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: js1138
Conservatives want the local community to decide what is or isn't useless bunk.(After all the community might conclude that evolution theory is useless bunk.) Not some unelected person in a black robe and not the bureaucrats in the state capital or Washington D.C.

We have our hands full fighting of the likes of Hillary and her nanny state allies. Now 'conservatives" want to join her in her war on the family. It is a crying shame.
48 posted on 01/03/2006 1:02:49 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: mlc9852

"Everyone dies."

Oh, dear. Yes, you're right, but not everyone dies from being bled to death by leeches. There was no science used to justify the leech treatments on Washington. It was just what doctors did at the time for things like strokes, heart problems, and almost everything else. They did it because doctors had been doing it, on faith, for a long, long time.

Then science stepped in and explained some of the intricacies of the human body. Leeching stopped for the reason that it did no good and often a lot of harm.

Science. You may have heard of it.

Besides, I thought you were planning to live forever.

Death, where is thy sting? Grave, where thy victory?

All that stuff.


50 posted on 01/03/2006 1:05:14 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: ellenripley

None of those other subjects rests on a THEORY!


51 posted on 01/03/2006 1:05:25 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: BenLurkin
You know, you'd have a better argument if you insisted that Hindu creation belief be taught. It would lend some credibility to your argument to compare one deep rooted belief system with another.

You're judging what constitutes a deeply held belief system? The flying spaghetti monster is one of the fastest growing belief systems. Just check out its homepage.

You will also note that our beliefs include the 'theory' that global warming exists and is caused by a decrease in the number of pirates (see chart below). This will need to be taught in the classrooms as well. Like ID, take it on faith.


52 posted on 01/03/2006 1:05:39 PM PST by peyton randolph (<a href="http://clinton.senate.gov/">shrew</a>)
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To: MineralMan
just adding information.

Thanks!

53 posted on 01/03/2006 1:06:12 PM PST by peyton randolph (<a href="http://clinton.senate.gov/">shrew</a>)
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To: MineralMan

If I wasn't a lady, I would tell you what I think of your opinion. I'll let you use your wonderful imagination.


54 posted on 01/03/2006 1:06:21 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: BenLurkin

"Conservatives want the local community to decide what is or isn't useless bunk.("

Science does not operate on a democratic basis, though. We don't vote on scientific theories, nor should we. Religion is another matter.

When an entire community is made up of biological scientists, then such an election might make sense. I know of no such community.


55 posted on 01/03/2006 1:07:01 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan

Beyond Bloodletting:
FDA Gives Leeches a Medical Makeover

http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2004/504_leech.html


57 posted on 01/03/2006 1:08:22 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

"If I wasn't a lady, I would tell you what I think of your opinion. I'll let you use your wonderful imagination."

Aww. Go ahead and let me have it. Tell me what was wrong in that message. Show me where I made a factual error in any part of it.

It wasn't an opinion. It was just the truth.

Or...maybe you don't plan on everlasting life. I could have gotten that wrong, I suppose.


58 posted on 01/03/2006 1:09:09 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: ellenripley

It is still a theory but keep believing.


59 posted on 01/03/2006 1:09:33 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: MineralMan

My eternal plans are none of your business. You may think yourself amusing making fun of people's beliefs. Too bad you don't have any.


60 posted on 01/03/2006 1:10:19 PM PST by mlc9852
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