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One Funeral Away From Civil War
http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/balkans/articles/20060102.aspx ^

Posted on 01/03/2006 2:08:05 PM PST by tgambill

One Funeral Away From Civil War January 2, 2006: The head of UNMIK (UN operations in Kosovo) believes that 2006 will be an important year for Kosovo. That’s because 2006 appears to be the year Kosovo's "final status" (either independence or an autonomous province of Serbia) is determined. Meanwhile, 17,500 peacekeepers remain on duty in Kosovo. Austria issued a statement asking that "the dignity of the Serbs" (ie, Kosovar Serbs) be respected as Kosovo's "new status" is resolved. This statement and several like it indicate that the UN and nations in the region believe Kosovo will become a separate country.

The illness of Kosovo's president Ibrahim Rugova complicates the diplomacy. Rugova is the "old man" of Kosovo's demands for autonomy and recognition of Albanian Kosovars' rights. Rugova was leading peaceful protests against the Yugoslav government in Belgrade in the early 1980s (as part of the "Albanikos" movement). Rugova is regarded as a moderate, especially when compared to the KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army) vets who form the hard-line anti-Serbia cadre in Kosovo. One report suggested that Rugova is "sinking fast" and that his illness is terminal. He refuses to give up power even temporarily. There is no moderate politician comparable to Rugova. If illness or death removes him from the scene the political fight among Albanian Kosovars will be ugly. Expect violence from the old KLA faction.

December 31, 2005: Islamic terrorists in Bosnia have been found cooperating with local criminal gangs. After the Cold War ended in 1991, the Balkans became the home base of some large criminal gangs. While Albanian gangs get most of the publicity, they have plenty of competition from Serbian organizations. In fact, Serbia has become the primary transit point for drugs, goods and people (including women forced into prostitution) smuggled between Eastern and Western Europe. The Albanian gangs dominate in Albania, Kosovo and Bosnia. Islamic radicals came to Bosnia during the 1990s to help local Moslems fight Serbs in the civil war, and many stayed behind after the fighting stopped. Some of these guys have gone to work with the Albanian gangs, to raise money for the cause of Islamic terrorism. This is not unusual, for much of al Qaeda's activities have been found to be financed by criminal activities. But getting open cooperation from criminal gangs is unusual. However, the Albanian gangsters don't see themselves as supporting terrorists, or if they do, it doesn't bother them. Many Albanians are Moslem. Increasingly, Islamic terrorists in Europe are found to have been smuggled in by the Albanian and Serbian gangs. Bangladeshi Islamic radicals have established themselves in Bosnia, along with older Arab crews. Bosnian police are trying to keep the al Qaeda groups off balance and unable to plan operations. If a large attack were traced back to Bosnia, it could have catastrophic repercussions, with cuts in foreign aid from angry West European donors. But Bosnia has become something of a rest stop for Islamic radicals, and that's bad enough.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristian; appeasement; balkans; clintonistas; clintonlegacy; clintonsquagmire; hoopielite; islamofascists; jihad; jihadapologists; kosovo; sorosfluffers; wrongplace; wrongside; wrongtime; wrongwar
January 2, 2006: The head of UNMIK (UN operations in Kosovo) believes that 2006 will be an important year for Kosovo. That’s because 2006 appears to be the year Kosovo's "final status" (either independence or an autonomous province of Serbia) is determined.

And, Islamic terrorists in Bosnia have been found cooperating with local criminal gangs.

1 posted on 01/03/2006 2:08:06 PM PST by tgambill
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To: tgambill

So? Bosnia is in Bosnia, and Kosovo is in Kosovo. Two separate things.


2 posted on 01/03/2006 2:21:39 PM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob

Nope....they are linked.....very much so by the Islamic Fundmentalist, Mafia and American Administration. What happens in one Balkan state effects the others. Basic principle if you understand the Balkans.


3 posted on 01/03/2006 2:38:31 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: GSlob

One more thing, weapons, drugs all the goodies are shipped from Bosnia to Kosovo as one route. The Islamic Fundies are operating in Bosnia and move to Kosovo. The Mafia works with them linking activities in B&H with Croatia, Montenegro, Albania, Bulgaria, and Kosovo name a few. Oh, don't forget Macedonia. Read up!


4 posted on 01/03/2006 2:41:10 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill

Well, if you insist on the linkage - the only link I see is that of serbian nationalism. And after Srebrenitsa it evokes negative sympathy.


5 posted on 01/03/2006 3:41:23 PM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob

I don't understand how the slaughter of 2000 Serbian civilians around Srebrenica by Muslim forces lead by Oric from Srebrenica could cause use to have negative sympathy for Serbian nationalism.


6 posted on 01/03/2006 4:54:53 PM PST by getoffmylawn (The 2005 World Champion Chicago White Sox...now Konerko AND Thome? Are you kidding me???)
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To: GSlob

I not only insist but it is a fact. I know about about the smuggling routes, the ties to the Islamic Fundalmentalist and Albanian Mafia. The CIA is also linked with this effort. Once Kosovo gets independence, if they do, which for five years I had reported in every meeting I could attend that they would most likely not get independence. If they do the precedence would affect B&H, Volvidina, Sandjak, and many others in other countries as well. The Mafia which controls Kosovo, would then start operations in Southern Serbia, Western Macedonia and Montenegro. They will try to link with Albania later. It is planned. The Islamic Fundies are licking their lips that they can also expand their influence more than have since 1999. A planned suicide bombing of Camp Bondsteel was thwarted several years ago as Al Quada had Charities that were running rampant withing Kosovo (RHIS, Al Haramain to name a few).......An attack by Al Quada was also conducted against U.S. CivPol Officers in a bus as you may recall if you are aware of the significant events. It was said that the shooting was due to an argument about Americans being in Iraq. This was not true. It was a planned attack.......according to sources.

Racak and Srebrenica was almost total fabrications. Yes the Serbs were murdering POW's. But the KLA was murdering Serbs, Albanians and are still murdering Serbs as of this year. I have the proof as presented by many onsite and investigations. The Clinton Adminstration completely fabricated the reasons for going into Bosnia and the remainder of the Balkans. Although, the Serbs did kill POW's and the Serbian authorities are talking care of them. Much unlike the Hague that are letting Criminals Like Ramush and Fatmir go free.

The Clinton Adminstration and CIA trained insurgents against the Serbs which included Muh. from Afghanstan as well. On many occasions NATO leaders, such as U.S. President Bill Clinton, Secretary of State Madelaine Albright, Defence Secretary William Cohen, or the British Prime Minister Tony Blair, his Foreign Minister Robin Cook, or Defence Minister George Robertson told the public that thousands of Albanians were being massacred. Indeed, the daily stories of massacres, as related by NATO spokesman Jamie Shea, were the glue that kept the alliance together.

Four months after the occupation of Kosovo-Metohija by NATO and investigation by forensic scientists from North America and Europe, the "mass graves" yielded less than 500 bodies. Evidence of wanton massacres and dead bodies are nowhere to be found.

The ICTY issued a statement some time ago during the investigations saying they did not want to get involved in a "numbers game," i.e. not predict the number of bodies until they are unearthed. This would appear to be a logical course of action. On the flip side, how is the ICTY able to issue indictments for "atrocities" and "mass deaths" that still remain to be uncovered?


Of the 7,500 to 8,000 murdered Muslims, (Hillary at one time said 7,500), they found 3,010 of the missing civilians on followup OSCE election lists. I have a partial listing by name of 350 of the alleged 3,010 that voted the following year. They participated in the Bosnia's election and as I said were on the OSCE voting lists. This "paradox" was presented to the OSCE and European Union by Dr. Dragan Kalinic, at that time President of the RS Parliament.

There is a criminal campaign to actually change history of the Serbs starting in 1992 or so. You cannot trust most books or historical books written pre-1991. The Albanians for example, formed their own Nazi SS aligned with Hitler. They murdered thousands of Slaves and Jews during this period. It is a historical Fact. As a matter of fact it was called the Skenderburg Division. The same name of the group formed and operating in Macedonia as we are talking now. They formed back in 2000 to 2001.


7 posted on 01/03/2006 6:14:46 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill
Suck all the money out of the Serbs while you can, Tom.

This gig ain't gonna last you long.

8 posted on 01/03/2006 6:52:44 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Hey Hoppie, I have no idea what you are speaking of. Be advised, I am receiving no recognition, no money, no pootang, Not even a thank you card..

You are receiving more than I am....that's an education and some problems in your spin for someone or some group. Well, :), quite frankly, the both of you can kiss my tutiewacher.....I'm getting tired of the lies, the political correctness and coverups......

It disgusts me in the same way a man would lie to his wife or dishonor his family......

Your answer is one of emotion and a confirmation that what I am writing is the truth. You are presenting no facts to dispute what I say. You are the one being paid by a covert group, or Albanian extremist disinformation groups. If this is not the case, then I'm hard pressed to figure out why you would respond after all this time of playing Darwin spins and Anti-Bibical issues you would jump up with the heckle. :))

I wish I had a gig....this civilian life is not befitting. Few Americans have any idea what is going on. You could lay all this out for them on a silver platter and they still wouldn't get it. You and your associates secret is safe.......The link between the Democratic party and criminal groups would never be believed anyway even after the documentary was produced by the New York connection.

No, my only interest is spreading the truth as a personal need. I get absolutely nothing, big goose egg. I have principles as you are "lighly just Hopping aroud"....as in Hopelite....or is that because you "Hope Little"....the story of your life.

Oh, by the way "hop a long"...that wouldn't be a little ole threat now would it...from your associates....? you will find me a very stubborn individual even unto death.

Tom


9 posted on 01/03/2006 7:10:36 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill; Gael; ma bell; montyspython; joan; Just mythoughts; Wraith

reference previous Hoplite post


10 posted on 01/03/2006 7:17:23 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill

I thought Clinton and Albright fixed all that balkan's stuff.


11 posted on 01/03/2006 7:19:49 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: tgambill
So you spoke at the Serbian Unity Congress Annual shindig for free?

What magnanimity.

In that case they're getting exactly what they paid for.

Perhaps you should eschew the amateur hour denial schtick and instead attempt to exercise your profound intellect upon exploring the various permutations of other folk's FR handles.

It seems much more your speed, and you would undoubtedly enjoy greater success.

12 posted on 01/03/2006 7:33:41 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: AD from SpringBay

They did....it is very much fixed....it's going on as planned. The Serbs are loosing their churches, being murdered, and ran out of their homes. The UN is getting money for their personal bank accounts, and the defense contractors are making much money.....shall I continue....

Clinton and Chubby did fix it........

Tom


13 posted on 01/03/2006 7:44:14 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Hoplite

Yep...spoke for free and it even cost me....to go there. So, I assume that you were there? Or is this just another dig or emotional response typical of a High School drop out trying to write on the forum.......to make up for a small....well you know, uh huh......pee pee....:))


"Perhaps you should eschew the amateur hour denial schtick and instead attempt to exercise your profound intellect upon exploring the various permutations of other folk's FR handles."

*******Ok...er uh..."who killed what"? you must be one of them thar lawyers......using such $50.00 words, you could be paid a lot of money for that paragraph. So, let me put it like this...I don't think so, I'm just going to follow you around and become a pain in your butt.......

"Perhaps you should eschew the amateur hour denial schtick"

****** I do appreciate that you have recognized that I have a special trait, interest and activity of dealing with Amateurs like yourself, but I can't eschew. I assumed that you knew that "schtick" meant that I had this unique trait, right? You should be more careful of your choice of words. Apparently my success is wearing you pretty thin.....I like it here....:)


14 posted on 01/03/2006 8:00:50 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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Hoplite I see you are trying to make friends again. I can just imagine what its like living in a trailer with nothing to do but sit in front of your computer and try to bring down the real people (veterans) who have been to Kosovo. Tom has walked the walk and you can only talk the talk or should I say talk other peoples talk.

The truth here is that your grand scope of understanding is based on one short tour of duty as a reservist cook in some far off kitchen that nobody remembers or gives a flying f__k about. I bet you have a tattoo to remind you of your cooking tour. Crossed spatulas and proud of it?

Hoplite what is your malfunction? What is the reason for your pathological hatred for the Serbs and anyone and anyone who does not agree with you?

Tom has been in Kosovo longer than most and as a mater of fact I agree with what he is saying. We have both been there and have come to the same conclusions. What does that tell you? To take criticism from some ex reservist cook is pathetic. You don't even come close to the level of understanding that Tom Gambill has of Kosovo and of the KLA/Albanians. We do! So sit in your trailer you old fart and let people in the know do the talking....

15 posted on 01/03/2006 8:02:17 PM PST by Wraith (The village called the idiot is missing...)
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I'm just going to follow you around and become a pain in your butt.......

Oh Joy.

Another MENSA level doppelganger.

It's like Christmas all over again.

16 posted on 01/03/2006 8:23:46 PM PST by Hoplite
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Better change your diaper clown before it gets messy...


17 posted on 01/03/2006 8:27:41 PM PST by Wraith (The village called the idiot is missing...)
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What does that tell you?

That if Greg Dority were only still around FR could have had its own Three Stooges?

18 posted on 01/03/2006 8:33:14 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Spoken like a real moron...


19 posted on 01/03/2006 8:34:22 PM PST by Wraith (The village called the idiot is missing...)
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To: Wraith

Wraith, hoppalong doesnt wanna be my friend. Never has, never will. Poor boy even wished me dead back in 2001 or so. What is wrong with hop-not-so-bright? :)


20 posted on 01/03/2006 8:54:22 PM PST by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: Hoplite

I'm hurt, no mention of me as would I be Joe, the 4th Stooge?


21 posted on 01/03/2006 8:57:49 PM PST by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: Hoplite

"Another MENSA level doppelganger"

****Whoa, I have to admit, there's no MENSA person here. Just a regular American that wants the truth out. Certainly not MENSA material. Thanks anyway.


22 posted on 01/03/2006 9:00:01 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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"Wished you dead back in 2001" Hoplite said that? Now that is what I call a sick though from one dysfunctional puppy. The dude is twisted. Their maybe a good reason why he is an ex reservist....
23 posted on 01/03/2006 9:44:47 PM PST by Wraith (The village called the idiot is missing...)
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To: ma bell
The circus is in town and hoplite is the clown...
24 posted on 01/03/2006 9:46:46 PM PST by Wraith (The village called the idiot is missing...)
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To: Wraith

yes, sir. He said that as there are plenty of witnesses... Joan should remmeber..same with vooch, voronin, getoffmylawn, destro, branicap, etc...


25 posted on 01/03/2006 10:49:57 PM PST by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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"I bet you have a tattoo to remind you of your cooking tour. Crossed spatulas and proud of it?"

LOL!!!

Hoplite's grand contribution to military service:

He defended a Popeye's Chicken restaurant from LA rioters...ROFLMAO!!! Hoplite the war hero! LOL!!!

26 posted on 01/04/2006 7:13:36 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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A ping in opposition to the Clinton Legacy/Islamofascist Cheerleaders!


27 posted on 01/04/2006 7:42:33 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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I was gonna ping you to that post because I knew you'd get a kick out of it :-D

I'm saving this thread to favorites. "Monkey pile on the troll" is always good for a few laughs.

28 posted on 01/04/2006 6:04:02 PM PST by getoffmylawn (The 2005 World Champion Chicago White Sox...now Konerko AND Thome? Are you kidding me???)
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Notice the pic at the begining of the thread for the Freepathon, that pic most aptly describes my vision of how Hoplite would look.


29 posted on 01/05/2006 11:27:17 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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Good one Monty, Hoplit aka Mr. OContrare sits alone in his trailer, fights with the neighbors in the trailer park, kicks anybodies dog, fights with everyone on FR, and most of all which is quite sad, fights with himself. This dysfunction has robbed the poor boob of any objective understanding with anyone out here.

I've notice one thing about Hopluck's antagonistic nature towards Tom, myself, Ma Bell and a dude named Fusion. We have all been to Kosovo, on the ground amids the hostility and barbaric crap that goes on there. We know Kosovo for what it is, Hoplite does not, he can only imagine what goes on. Quite simply he must destroy, discredit and ridicule those of us that know the truth about Kosovo in order to compensate for his lack of a back bone i.e. never having the grit to go to these places of conflict. Being a rocking chair cowboy with diminished testosterone levels surely adds to the fire. Poor Gramps?

The CLOT is just plain pissed off. He uses FR as a conduit in this negative, dysfunctional, counter productive way to simply pick a fight. I do believe that Hoplose craves negative attention which is masochistic in nature i.e. he loves to get a good bitch slap and lots of them. Is it a cry saying spank me some more?

Its the dogs that I really feel sorry for.........
30 posted on 01/05/2006 2:28:04 PM PST by Wraith (The village called the idiot is missing...)
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Uhh, i think he is looking for something else to be stroked, monty.
31 posted on 01/05/2006 9:44:17 PM PST by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: ma bell

I will let mark oblige him with that request.


32 posted on 01/06/2006 7:43:01 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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