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Cuba 'paid Oswald to kill Kennedy'
Herald Sun ^ | 5 January 2006 | Mark Trevelyan

Posted on 01/04/2006 3:16:45 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

CUBA lay behind the 1963 assassination of President John F Kennedy by Lee Harvey Oswald and its agents provided the gunman with money and support, an award-winning German director says in a new documentary film.

Wilfried Huismann spent three years researching Rendezvous with Death, based on interviews with former Cuban secret agents, US officials and a Russian intelligence source, and on research in Mexican security archives.

The film, shown to journalists in Berlin, says Oswald travelled to Mexico City by bus in September 1963, seven weeks before the Kennedy shooting, and met agents at the Cuban embassy there who paid him $US6500 ($8790).

Oscar Marino, a former Cuban agent and a key source for the documentary, told Huismann that Oswald himself had volunteered for the assassination mission and Havana had exploited him.

"Oswald was a dissident. He hated his country...Oswald offered to kill Kennedy," Marino said in the film.

"He was so full of hate, he had the idea. We used him...He was a tool."

He said he knew with certainty that the assassination was an operation of the Cuban secret service G-2, but would not say if it was ordered by President Fidel Castro.

Oswald was shot dead by Jack Ruby two days after killing Kennedy in Dallas on November 22, 1963.

The film argues Cuba wanted to eliminate Kennedy as the chief enemy of its Communist revolution, and portrays him and Castro as duelling opponents each trying to assassinate the other first.

Former CIA official Sam Halpern told Huismann: "He (Castro) beat us. He bested us. He came out on top, and we lost." Laurence Keenan, an officer of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) who was sent to Mexico City immediately after Kennedy's death to investigate a possible Cuban connection, said he was recalled after just three days and the probe was aborted.

"This was perhaps the worst investigation the FBI was ever involved in," Keenan said. "I realised that I was used. I felt ashamed. We missed a moment in history."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Cuba; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assasination; assassinationplot; assassinationplots; castro; cuba; halpern; jfk; jfkassassination; kennedy; samhalpern
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This wouldn't surprise me.

What I'd really like to know is who paid to have The Great Ronald Reagan And John Paul II shot...

1 posted on 01/04/2006 3:16:46 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

There is much speculation that the Soviets were behind John Paul II's assassination attempt - the Polish connection had them scared.


3 posted on 01/04/2006 3:20:43 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Aussie Dasher

And LBJ did what in return? Nothing. As most liberals do.


4 posted on 01/04/2006 3:21:13 PM PST by Ron in Acreage (Liberal Democrats-Party before country, surrender before victory, generous with other peoples money.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

In a way, I hope this could be true. Then when we go in to throw Fidel out, the left would be in a real bind. Do they support the effort as revenge for killing their idol, JFK? Or would their affinity and love for left wing thugs override this?


5 posted on 01/04/2006 3:21:48 PM PST by x1stcav (First Afghanistan! Then Iraq! When Cuba?)
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To: x1stcav

Where was Karl Rove in 1963?


6 posted on 01/04/2006 3:22:18 PM PST by umgud (uncompassionate conservative)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Cuba Libre!


7 posted on 01/04/2006 3:22:28 PM PST by Blue State Insurgent (Shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter the remnants to the wind. Avenge JFK.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
What I'd really like to know is who paid to have The Great Ronald Reagan And John Paul II shot...

I thought the church last year claimed that it was the communists (specifically the soviets) that had wanted Pope John Paul II killed.

As for Reagan, nobody could have paid Hinkley to shoot Reagan (they could have impersonated Jodie Foster maybe), but that guy was out and out, and is still out and out nuts.

Obviously, I don't believe the Bush/Hinkley story.

8 posted on 01/04/2006 3:22:57 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

More than speculation. Documentation. It's public knowledge now that JPII hit was ordered by the Soviets, who farmed it out to the Bulgarians, who hired the hitman.


9 posted on 01/04/2006 3:23:21 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Aussie Dasher

> ... Oswald travelled to Mexico City by bus in September
> 1963, seven weeks before the Kennedy shooting, and met
> agents at the Cuban embassy there ...

Just when Bush was starting to attend Yale, and doing
nothing about this grave threat to the country :-)


10 posted on 01/04/2006 3:23:53 PM PST by Boundless
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To: Aussie Dasher

And it took 42 years to state the obvious!


11 posted on 01/04/2006 3:23:57 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: x1stcav

This doesn't add up. The evidence at Dealey Plaza collected immediately after the crime indicates that there were probably three marksmen. Oswald may have been involved in the plot, but he couldn't shoot straight.

I still think it was LBJ and Hoover.


12 posted on 01/04/2006 3:24:46 PM PST by kjo
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To: Aussie Dasher
"$US6500"

30 pieces of silver.

Rot in hell, Lee Harvey.

13 posted on 01/04/2006 3:25:18 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: x1stcav

The extreme left believes that Bush 41 killed JFK.


14 posted on 01/04/2006 3:26:02 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (When in Rome, yell and complain until Romans do what you want them to do. If that fails, sue.)
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To: umgud
Where was Karl Rove in 1963?

Nevada.

It should be noted, alot of the DUmmies think George H.W. Bush was behind the kennedy assanination, and if you push them, they'd probably find a way to blame him for Lincolns too.

15 posted on 01/04/2006 3:26:25 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: umgud
Where was Karl Rove in 1963?

Seventh grade. The guy was a commie from waaaaay back...

16 posted on 01/04/2006 3:27:27 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Aussie Dasher

Another day, another conspiracy.


17 posted on 01/04/2006 3:27:32 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
According to the Stones... it was somebody else.

While your kings and queens
Fought for ten decades
For the gods they made
I shouted out,
Who killed the kennedys?
When after all
It was you and me

18 posted on 01/04/2006 3:28:12 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: bobbdobbs
It would certainly fit Oswald's stated motivation

What was Oswald's stated motivation? So far as I know the only public statement Oswald made indicated that he was "just a patsy".

19 posted on 01/04/2006 3:28:30 PM PST by kylaka
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To: x1stcav

I remember a DU thread where they had *proof* that Dubya's dad killed JFK. LOL


20 posted on 01/04/2006 3:28:55 PM PST by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Weren't the Bulgarians laundering KGB money to have the Pope shot? As to Hinkley, I would think that that little rat was working on his own.


21 posted on 01/04/2006 3:28:58 PM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: bobbdobbs; All
My dad wrote a book (which had the largest advance payment for a book that would ultimately never be published), ahem.. with a woman named Marita Lorenz who contends she was a CIA agent sent to Cuba to kill Castro. She says Oswald was there. Extraordinary story that not many people know:

MARITA LORENZ

22 posted on 01/04/2006 3:29:18 PM PST by Hildy (Spielberg spends his spare time memorializing the last Holocaust while working to justify the next.)
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To: umgud

LOL


23 posted on 01/04/2006 3:29:37 PM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: kjo

The speculation immediately after the assassination may have pointede in the direction of three assassins, but the speculation on 9/11 was that the State Department had been blown up. News last night was that 12 men trapped in a mine had survived. News during an event or in the immediate aftermath is rarely reliable.


24 posted on 01/04/2006 3:30:17 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (When in Rome, yell and complain until Romans do what you want them to do. If that fails, sue.)
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To: kjo

I think that it was the CIA!!!!!!!


25 posted on 01/04/2006 3:31:44 PM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: Aussie Dasher

The Soviets, of course, wanted RR and the Pope dead, as being far more trouble to the USSR than they were worth. But not JFK. He was worth more alive than dead. Now, JFK was a patriotic American despite his faults. But the Soviets regarded him as manipulable.

Castro hated Kennedy enough to have him killed. Oswald was Castro's equally hate-filled triggerman. Recall Oswald was handing out `Hands off Cuba!' leaflets just weeks before he did his dastardly deed.

Castro is now on his tenth U.S. president.


27 posted on 01/04/2006 3:33:17 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: Aussie Dasher

Oswald travelled to Mexico City by bus in September 1963, seven weeks before the Kennedy shooting, and met agents at the Cuban embassy there who paid him $US6500 ($8790).



Show me the money!


28 posted on 01/04/2006 3:34:39 PM PST by paradoxical
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To: Aussie Dasher

Oswald was a lone nut(as was Ruby), and no nut making a documentary is going to change my mind.


29 posted on 01/04/2006 3:35:15 PM PST by Madison Moose
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Oswald was the only lone-nut assassin in US history who did not proudly claim his crime. He called himself a patsy. And of course, the proof of conspiracy (at least for me) was Jack Ruby, a long-time minor mob figure showing up at just the right moment in Oswald's transfer to kill him.

I still think it was a setup. And I still bet it was LBJ and Hoover.


30 posted on 01/04/2006 3:35:27 PM PST by kjo
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To: Hildy
This is very interesting!!!!! I have always believed that it was the CIA.
31 posted on 01/04/2006 3:35:34 PM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: operation clinton cleanup

Pleased to meet you, won't you guess my name?


32 posted on 01/04/2006 3:35:50 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: Hildy

Hildy, why was it never published?


33 posted on 01/04/2006 3:36:17 PM PST by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves!)
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To: blu

Publisher was afraid of liability problems...she named too many names.


34 posted on 01/04/2006 3:37:04 PM PST by Hildy (Spielberg spends his spare time memorializing the last Holocaust while working to justify the next.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Stabilized version of the Zapruder film.

Zapruder film, frame-by-frame

35 posted on 01/04/2006 3:37:11 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: Aussie Dasher
The key to unravelling the Kennedy assassination mystery is to understand the actions (and death) of Jack Ruby.

Assassination 101: "The assassin must also be killed."

36 posted on 01/04/2006 3:37:52 PM PST by The Duke
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To: Aussie Dasher
Cuba 'paid Oswald to kill Kennedy'

Yep. And the KGB knew about it, if they were not directly involved. Castro would not have done this if the KGB didn't allow it. Johnson could not do anything about it, because it would have started WWIII. The JFK conspiracy culture is a coverup.
37 posted on 01/04/2006 3:37:57 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Ridiculous on several levels. Not the least being that Kennedy's trip had not been announced when Oswald was in Mexico.

Oswald didn't need to be paid to shoot people. Just ask General Walker.

In earlier times, he, Oswald, had also talked about shooting Ike and even Richard Nixon.


38 posted on 01/04/2006 3:40:26 PM PST by Sam Hill
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To: GaltMeister
I remember a DU thread where they had *proof* that Dubya's dad killed JFK. LOL You've got more intenstinal fortitude than me. I can barely make it past the front page!
39 posted on 01/04/2006 3:40:33 PM PST by xmission
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To: Aussie Dasher


Geez, and all this time I thought it was Bush's fault!


40 posted on 01/04/2006 3:41:59 PM PST by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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To: kylaka

Oswald was a member of something called the "Fair Play for Cuba" committee, which opposed U.S. policy towards Castro. He was an admirer of the Soviet Union, moved there, and married a Russian woman. There was also a story several years back from a Russian KGB agent that Oswald offerred his services to the KGB in Mexico City. The KGB boys supposedly thought he was too much of a nut to be trusted. So maybe the story of Oswald and the Cuban agents in Mexico City isn't that far-fetched.


41 posted on 01/04/2006 3:43:28 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Aussie Dasher
What I'd really like to know is who paid to have The Great Ronald Reagan And John Paul II shot...

Don't know about Reagan,but it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out who had the most to gain from killing the Pope that lived under Communism,knew it better than just about anyone and had the means to help bring it down...which he,President Reagan and Mrs Thatcher eventually succeeded in doing.

42 posted on 01/04/2006 3:44:13 PM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: kjo
>>>>I still think it was LBJ and Hoover.

Bareback mounting, starring Lyndon and J.Edgar. Good movie plot.

43 posted on 01/04/2006 3:45:18 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Hildy

"with a woman named Marita Lorenz who contends she was a CIA agent sent to Cuba to kill Castro. She says Oswald was there. Extraordinary story that not many people know"

Well, it's not for any lack of trying. It's one of the most over told stories in history, especially given how preposterous it is.

But, as you must know, even the holocaust deniers at Liberty Lobby couldn't defend this claptrap when Howard Hunt sued them for liable.

It's very telling that this bogus fairtale is championed by Mark Lane. The same man who brought us the first JFK conspiracy books, and the same man who brought us the bogus "Winter Soldiers" investigations.

Mark Lane was on the KGB payroll.


44 posted on 01/04/2006 3:50:26 PM PST by Sam Hill
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To: kjo

It was Arkancide.


45 posted on 01/04/2006 3:50:55 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Aussie Dasher
Ahh yes, because a lone wacko is just too impossible to believe.

Hmm, I should look up to see what the conspiracy is around the Unibomber.. There's gotta be one.
46 posted on 01/04/2006 3:51:12 PM PST by kingu
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To: Hildy

for liable = for libel.

(And Hunt won, of course.)


47 posted on 01/04/2006 3:51:22 PM PST by Sam Hill
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To: Sonny M
they'd probably find a way to blame him for Lincolns too.

I heard G W Bush also withheld health care from George Washington, so he died of pneumonia! Even worse, G W Bush did the same thing to William H Harrison in 1841! Once again, pneumonia and Bush withheld HEALTH CARE!

48 posted on 01/04/2006 3:51:47 PM PST by xrp (My current list of worshippers: MNJohnnie)
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To: Aussie Dasher
John Paul II

Actually we know this. It was the Russians, specifically the KGB, I believe. As I recall it was because of his support for the Solidarity movement in Poland. I could be wrong, though, so if some other FReepers remember it better, please correct. I do know it was the Russians, though.

49 posted on 01/04/2006 3:56:10 PM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: kjo

Oswald was in the Marines, I damn well bet he culd shoot straight.


50 posted on 01/04/2006 3:56:58 PM PST by RedStateRocker
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