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Two dead, more injured in military crash (29 Palms Marines in highway crash before deployment)
North County Times ^ | 4 Jan 2006 | Unattributed

Posted on 01/04/2006 10:25:41 PM PST by dbandit

RANCHO BERNARDO ---- Two people died and an estimated 14 to 20 more Marine personnel were hurt when two military vehicles went over the side of southbound Interstate 15 bringing traffic to a halt Wednesday, authorities said.

The collision happened at 7:19 p.m. on I-15 just south of West Bernardo Drive, California Highway Patrol Officer Larry Landeros said.

A Camp Pendleton spokesman said the vehicles were from the 1st Marine Division stationed at Twenty-nine Palms. Further information was not available, he said.

One large transport-type military vehicle towing another carrying military personnel struck the center divide and then went about 100 feet off the side of the right shoulder, Landeros said.

The fire department was called to help rescue personnel. A San Diego Fire helicopter was being called to the scene to help transport injured personnel to hospitals.

Traffic ground to a halt as fire engines, ambulances and CHP officers handled the scene.

Military personnel with weapons were standing around the perimeter. A mile south of the crash, two similar vehicles were pulled over and parked on the right shoulder.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 29palms; marinecorp; marines
Tragic accident in hideous construction zone north of San Diego. Marines from 29 Palms on their way to MCAS Miramar for deployment. Construction zone involves several massive bridge widenings and local KUSI news reports two Marines were ejected from their 14-ton vehicle and were tossed 80 ft off the side of a bridge. I drive this route everyday and the lanes are restricted, half on asphalt, half on concrete on the sides. Horrible, tragic accident in exactly the wrong place. I can't find any other details on local news sites, but I am so saddened by this I had to post it.

Don't know if excerpting is required from this source.

1 posted on 01/04/2006 10:25:44 PM PST by dbandit
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To: dbandit

Yes, this is sad. Thanks for the post.


2 posted on 01/04/2006 10:29:09 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: dbandit

Terrible news.. May God comfort those who mourn and heal the injured.


3 posted on 01/04/2006 10:29:34 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: dbandit

Thank you for posting this. I live right near where this tragedy happened. The construction is just terrible! Prayers for these Marines and their families.


4 posted on 01/04/2006 10:30:35 PM PST by CAluvdubya (The ignorant defeatocrats have declared war on the War On Terror!)
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To: CAluvdubya

My second cousin and his family are based at 29 Palms.
He has had two tours to Iraq


5 posted on 01/04/2006 10:52:57 PM PST by SoCalPol (Cowards Cut and Run, Marines Never Do)
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To: dbandit; NormsRevenge

Thanks for posting this/.


6 posted on 01/04/2006 10:54:56 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: SoCalPol

He is still there?


7 posted on 01/04/2006 10:56:17 PM PST by CAluvdubya (The ignorant defeatocrats have declared war on the War On Terror!)
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To: dbandit

hit the CENTER divider. You usually see these convoys in the far right lane doing 55-60.


8 posted on 01/04/2006 10:58:32 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: CAluvdubya

He is still there?

Yes


9 posted on 01/04/2006 11:00:57 PM PST by SoCalPol (Cowards Cut and Run, Marines Never Do)
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To: CAluvdubya

There is going to be around 25,000 Marines from San Diego
leaving again for Iraq. 1st Marine div.
Will be 3rd tour for them.


10 posted on 01/04/2006 11:15:57 PM PST by SoCalPol (Cowards Cut and Run, Marines Never Do)
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To: bigsigh

Just saw this on the news. after they hit the center divider, they hit the concrete barrier on the right hand side. The barriers are there to keep one from going over the side of the bridge at Lake Hodges, close to an 80 foot plunge.


11 posted on 01/04/2006 11:16:00 PM PST by CAluvdubya (The ignorant defeatocrats have declared war on the War On Terror!)
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To: SoCalPol

I know from duaghters boyfriend, that Mirimar was seeking re-ups from those stationed there.


12 posted on 01/04/2006 11:18:03 PM PST by CAluvdubya (The ignorant defeatocrats have declared war on the War On Terror!)
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To: SoCalPol

A very long time ago, my Dad(now deceased since 1971)was stationed there! My parents lived out there for a couple of years while he was there. This was in early 50s during Korean War I believe. I was reading about Twenty-nine Palms on the web, and in the early 50s or so, Marine personnel came out from Camp Pendleton to start a Marine base there. It was an old Air-base at one time!

Apparently my Dad was there when the base was still forming. He went back to Camp Pendleton when I was 1 year old. I'd always hoped I could go back and see it one day. I've read that it is really big now!


13 posted on 01/04/2006 11:24:00 PM PST by dsutah
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To: dbandit

Right around the corner.

Sending prayers... yes, horrible and tragic.


14 posted on 01/04/2006 11:28:04 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: MEG33

I'll add my prayers to yours.


15 posted on 01/04/2006 11:29:29 PM PST by Marie (Support the Troops. Slap a hippy.)
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To: dbandit

It's been on the radio, too...how HORRIBLY tragic..


16 posted on 01/04/2006 11:30:50 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Jesus is STILL the reason, and it's ALWAYS the Season!!!)
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To: dsutah

My dad was 1st Marine Div Korean War.
He was based at the Navy Hospital here in San Diego
and Camp Pendleton.
Another 2nd Cousin, a Dr. with 1st Marines out of
Camp Pendleton was first yr in Iraq


17 posted on 01/04/2006 11:31:01 PM PST by SoCalPol (Cowards Cut and Run, Marines Never Do)
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To: dbandit; Brad's Gramma; trussell; Kitty Mittens; kitkat; Pegita; Salvation

Prayers up ... God bless them.


18 posted on 01/04/2006 11:33:23 PM PST by STARWISE (Sedition:an illegal action inciting resistance to lawful authority- to cause the overthrow of govt)
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To: onyx

Thought you would be interested in this thread


19 posted on 01/04/2006 11:34:06 PM PST by SoCalPol (Cowards Cut and Run, Marines Never Do)
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To: dbandit

humvee tag.

one of the vehicles involved, was 'it'


20 posted on 01/04/2006 11:34:24 PM PST by greasepaint
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To: dbandit
My God how awful. You worry about the deployments, not a durn wreck on the way! Prayers for them all and for the families of the deceased.
21 posted on 01/05/2006 12:07:28 AM PST by misty4jc
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To: dbandit
One large transport-type military vehicle towing another carrying military personnel struck the center divide
Since when is a towed vehicle allowed to carry passengers - especially at highway speeds?
22 posted on 01/05/2006 5:00:33 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: STARWISE
Heavenly Father, we return to thank You that You are Comfort and Assurance in times of tragedy. We praise You, O God, for the lives that have been spared, even as we mourn the loss of two of our brave Marines. Touch the hearts of family and friends, that they would be sustained in the midst of grief ... touch the injured and bring them to complete healing. Let nothing ultimately deter their mission, Merciful Father, and let nothing interfere with victory. In the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ we pray, Amen ...
23 posted on 01/05/2006 5:36:23 AM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Pegita

Oh my, how lovely and gracious of you to think of the survivors as they must carry forward.

Blessings be on you.


24 posted on 01/05/2006 6:19:43 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, and Niece)
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To: dbandit

These guys were in my son's unit. My son was in a serious automobile accident in CO on 12/17, on his way home from CA for the holidays, spent a week in Denver hospital, home recuperating. He is devastated.... says "I was supposed to be there with them...".. The medic was one of his best friends. GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS


26 posted on 01/05/2006 7:23:31 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: NEMDF

I don't know how to console your son on the loss of his friend, except to honor his memory. He had served this country and was ready to serve again. He did more for humanity in his young life than several others do in long lives. He is a hero, however he died.

NEMDF, do you know about the Canteen here on Free Republic? We honor the troops AND their families. I was so glad last Sunday to hear Gen. Peter Pace say that the families sacrifice every bit as much as the troops. It's true. God bless you, your son and your family. I pray he fully recovers from his injuries.


27 posted on 01/05/2006 9:53:56 AM PST by La Enchiladita ("We never lose! We're the United States of America!!" Rush, 12/26/05)
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To: StarCMC; Kathy in Alaska; kellynla

Ping to a sad accident here in CA.


28 posted on 01/05/2006 9:55:14 AM PST by La Enchiladita ("We never lose! We're the United States of America!!" Rush, 12/26/05)
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To: oh8eleven; NEMDF
More info from local Fox affiliate who broke the story last night (sorry, not KUSI),

"2 Marines Dead After Crash on I-15

Authorities are investigating a crash that killed two Marines and injured two other servicemembers when a pair of military vehicles overturned on Interstate 15. The driver of a light-armored vehicle was towing another military vehicle when he lost control, [California Highway Patrol Officer Mark] Gregg said.

Both vehicles struck a concrete wall and overturned, and two Marines were thrown through the vehicle's roof hatch and over the side of the overcrossing, falling approximately 70 feet."

link at http://www.fox6.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=24596142-2FD6-43C2-9062-2AC9618E3407

I can't believe it. I drive this exact route everyday. Military convoys are occasionally seen, always in the right lane, so hitting the center divider doesn't make sense, unless it was after the driver lost control. Why did the driver lose control? I can only guess, but the lanes are a couple feet narrower through this stretch, the traffic opens up a little at this point just south of a narrower bridge over Lake Hodges, and I see people drift across the bot dots all the time.

CalTrans in their infinite wisdom has been working to widen the opening to the traffic funnel that leads to this exact point both north- and southbound, and waited to start widening the base of the funnel until recently when as many cars as possible crowd in there. BTW: the new lanes look like they're basically done, but since the bridges haven't been widened yet, the concrete barriers are up and there are no shoulders here. Tragic, and makes me really mad.

29 posted on 01/05/2006 10:00:59 AM PST by dbandit (It's only a conspiracy until you advertise; then it's called policy.)
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To: dsutah

Thanks for telling your personal connection to the military history in CA. By the way, you moved to another beautiful state, eh? IMO, Californians get addicted to natural beauty!

Coincidentally, my father died in '71 also. He worked over 30 years for Douglas Aircraft, starting during WWII, here at what is now Santa Monica Airport. My mother went to work there also during the war and that is where they met and hence created me.

I haven't been out to Camp Pendleton either, but my impression is it's the biggest military facility in SoCal. The Marines based here have had more than their share of tragedies, so this one is painful. They expect they could die in that desert "over there," but not the one here...


30 posted on 01/05/2006 10:16:53 AM PST by La Enchiladita ("We never lose! We're the United States of America!!" Rush, 12/26/05)
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To: cgk; dbandit

This was breaking news just as I was going to bed last night. Unbelievable, the last thing we expect, but I guess deployment is not the only dangerous environment for them...

God bless our Marines.


31 posted on 01/05/2006 10:23:29 AM PST by La Enchiladita ("We never lose! We're the United States of America!!" Rush, 12/26/05)
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To: dbandit

Stay on this; you may find out something yet.


32 posted on 01/05/2006 10:59:12 AM PST by La Enchiladita ("We never lose! We're the United States of America!!" Rush, 12/26/05)
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