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Spying, CNN and the Kerry campaign: Is there a there there? [Did GW spy on CNN reporter & Kerry?]
Salon - Politics/War Room ^ | Jan 5, 2006 | Tim Grieve

Posted on 01/05/2006 12:43:20 PM PST by summer

It gets curiouser and curiouser.

As we noted Wednesday, [a liberal site] noticed an odd moment in Andrea Mitchell's interview this week with New York Times reporter James Risen: While interviewing Risen about his new book and revelations that George W. Bush authorized warrantless spying on American citizens, Mitchell asked Risen if he had any information suggesting that CNN's international correspondent, Christiane Amanpour, "might have been eavesdropped upon." Risen said he didn't. But as [the liberal site] surmised, the question certainly suggested that Mitchell did.

Right about the time the [liberal site's] theory started floating through the blogosphere, somebody deleted Mitchell's question and Risen's answer from the transcript posted on MSNBC's Web site. We said we'd like to hear an explanation, and TVNewser actually went to the trouble of getting one. "Unfortunately this transcript was released prematurely," reads a statement TVNewser says it got from NBC. "It was a topic on which we had not completed our reporting, and it was not broadcast on 'NBC Nightly News' nor on any other NBC News program. We removed that section of the transcript so that we may further continue our inquiry."

Assuming the statement is legitimate, that sure seems to us like a long way of saying, "Yeah, we're looking into the possibility that the Bush administration was eavesdropping on Christiane Amanpour."

Now, it's probably time for a deep breath and some patience here. What we've got here is some reading between the lines, and it's about a question, not an answer. But as we said yesterday, if the answer is ultimately answered in the affirmative -- that is, if the Bush administration has indeed been listening in on Amanpour's phone -- the implications are enormous. We don't much like the idea that the government might be listening in on the conversations of a reporter. And Amanpour isn't just any reporter: She is married to Jamie Rubin, a State Department spokesman under Bill Clinton and a foreign policy advisor to John Kerry's presidential campaign. If the Bush administration was listening in on Amanpour's phone, was it listening when she talked with her husband? Was it listening when he might have used her phone himself?

Again, what we've got here are hints about a question. We're a long way from an answer. But when you start circumventing Congress and the courts and begin to spy on Americans in a way that you insist you aren't, you invite questions like these. And along the way, you invite people to think about the last time some people who worked for a president tried to spy on the opposition.


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KEYWORDS: amanpour; americahaters; bushhaters; clintonnewsnetwork; cnn; gw; kerry; lurch; patriotleak; spying
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I don't know if any of this is actually "news" as right now it just seems like a lot of questions.
1 posted on 01/05/2006 12:43:23 PM PST by summer
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To: All

But, I guess when John Kerry makes his eventual lame-brain, longwinded, confusing comment, then: it will officially become "news."


2 posted on 01/05/2006 12:44:22 PM PST by summer
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To: summer

If Amanpour was talking to terrorists or suspected terrorists (which wouldn't surprise me) I hope we were spying on her.


3 posted on 01/05/2006 12:45:09 PM PST by Pondman88
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To: summer

Seems like another element in the media's continuing attempt to toss as many "questions" out there so later they can say "Many questions surround the President" and add to the "environment of corruption," which on close observation amounts to nothing.


4 posted on 01/05/2006 12:45:47 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you. --Elmer Davis)
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To: summer

If Christiane Amanpour's conversations were monitored, it was because of overseas calls to questionable people. I don't have a probelem with it at all.


6 posted on 01/05/2006 12:45:58 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: summer

She's a public, known, associate of terrorists.

Of course she's monitored.


7 posted on 01/05/2006 12:46:07 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: summer

Eavesdropping on The War Whore's phone conversations sounds like an outstanding way to find out what the bad guys are going to be up to next, unless you really believe that it's just coincidence when she shows up in the next CNN war zone and doesn't get a heads-up call from the bad guys.


8 posted on 01/05/2006 12:46:10 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: Pondman88

I am wondering if people like her, being in media, and trying to report, are the targets of propaganda put out by terrorists who pretend not to be. I am guessing that probably does happen, whether she thinks she is talking to a terrorist or she doesn't think so because she doesn't know.


9 posted on 01/05/2006 12:46:41 PM PST by summer
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To: summer

Lets see if I can connect the dots.

Kerry is a communist and a known treasonous communist sympathizer.

So is anyone who works for him.

So is CA.

Bush was using his authority to spy on enemies of the state.

Whats the problem?


10 posted on 01/05/2006 12:47:16 PM PST by Pylot
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To: summer
Another left-wing delusion made up out of whole cloth. Like I would believe yet another anti-Bush accusation stemming from CNN and MSNBC "reporters"?

The chance that Annanpour was spied upon is far lower than the chance that she is an active agent working to assist our enemies.

11 posted on 01/05/2006 12:47:17 PM PST by thoughtomator (How to recognize the enemy: he says "peace" and means something entirely different)
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To: summer

Considering the source it's probably more moonbat conspiricy theories. But come to think of it Amanpour and her husband given their backgrounds as CNN and Clinton administration respectively they could well be associates of Osama and therefore may have had their phone conversations picked up!!!!!!Hahahahahhahaha


12 posted on 01/05/2006 12:47:39 PM PST by marlon
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To: Darkwolf377

Perhaps Amanpour has contacts with Al Quaeda...would NBC want to divulge that???? Shouldn't the govt investigate ANY citizen who contacts terrorists??? I think so...


13 posted on 01/05/2006 12:48:07 PM PST by Pondman88
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To: Pondman88

Glas someone dropped the dime on her.


14 posted on 01/05/2006 12:48:40 PM PST by GoforBroke
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To: GoforBroke

glad


15 posted on 01/05/2006 12:49:03 PM PST by GoforBroke
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To: summer
and revelations that George W. Bush authorized warrantless spying on American citizens,

Typical left-wing lie. The "warrantless" evesdropping, not SPYING, only applied to U.S. citizens who were speaking with terrorists calling from overseas. At which point the "citizen" became a foreign agent--with no 4th amendment priviliges.

To expect anything close to the truth from the left, especially Salon, is drinking the bong water.

16 posted on 01/05/2006 12:49:23 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: summer

Only if Kerry was using Osama's cell phone: http://americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=4103


18 posted on 01/05/2006 12:50:15 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: Pondman88
It sure would explain a lot about her.

I am betting we see her interviewed on CNN very soon, and this question will be asked at the next presser, thanks to Salon mentioning it.

I have to admit, it would disturb me that we are bugging reporters. Which is probably why they're floating this idea.

19 posted on 01/05/2006 12:51:24 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you. --Elmer Davis)
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To: Lizarde

Re your post #5 - I always thought she was a US citizen -- is she not?


20 posted on 01/05/2006 12:51:47 PM PST by summer
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To: summer
Again, what we've got here are hints about a question.

what they have are hints about a question or what they are doing is grasping at straws since Risen definitively said he had no information?

Maybe it was removed because it was a careless question to ask...why no ask if chuck schiester has been spying on would-be Republican candidates; there is more of a basis for that question based on known events....this is nothing more then rat conspiracy and wishful thinking...
21 posted on 01/05/2006 12:52:42 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Darkwolf377

But do reporters even know when they are talking to terrorists? Or are reporters subject to being duped by terrorists? That is something one has to consider, too. I, too, agree this would normally bother me if true, but, reporters seem like perfect targets of terrorists wanting to get "their side" of the story out. And, I am not sure that reporters have a list of terrorists like the US govt does. It seems to me there are likely times when a reporter talking to foreigners really has no idea the actual background of those foreigners. So there is, perhaps, a worthy case to be made on both sides here, in the context of the current times.


23 posted on 01/05/2006 12:54:29 PM PST by summer
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To: Pondman88
Of course, being a reporter doesn't mean you've got the right to freely talk to terrorists the government is trying to apprehend.

If she attempted to contact a terrorist for an interview, and wiretapping her phone assisted in finding his hideout, that's a legitimate attempt to flush out a terrorist.

But you know that when this story breaks we will have a flood of "Impeachment" calls.

24 posted on 01/05/2006 12:54:41 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you. --Elmer Davis)
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To: marlon

I like the idea that these losers are getting all sorts of paranoid about this, though.


25 posted on 01/05/2006 12:55:10 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Said the night wind to the little lamb . . . "Do you see what I see?")
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To: diznay4evr
"I'd- authorize spying on Christiane Amanpour."

I would to, provided no topless beaches were involved.

26 posted on 01/05/2006 12:55:54 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: summer

I would think a reporter would know if she's talking to a terrorist. Why else would she be talking to a terrorist--as a source? I imagine CA has attempted many times to get interviews with certain terrorists.


27 posted on 01/05/2006 12:55:56 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you. --Elmer Davis)
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To: summer
along the way, you invite people to think about the last time some people who worked for a president tried to spy on the opposition.

Does being first Lady count as an "employee"? Thinking of Craig Livingstone, who was the go-to man when Hillary Rodham's staff ordered up FBI files to be sent to her "office" for opposition research.... ex-FBI Director Louis Freeh can undoubtedly name other names of presidential employees who spied on the opposition. Come to think of it, so could Janet Reno's former staff...
28 posted on 01/05/2006 12:56:43 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Darkwolf377

There are probably times when a reporter does know the interviewee is a terrorist, but I am guessing that knowledge does not always exist for the reporter.


29 posted on 01/05/2006 12:56:58 PM PST by summer
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To: summer

Seems to me that since not one person has stepped forward to complain re: "spying", one has to be invented for all the "what ifs" and "this could happen to you" and "IMPEACH" and etc.


30 posted on 01/05/2006 12:58:53 PM PST by synbad600
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To: summer

Maybe they wondered if sKerry was still staying in touch with his old communist buddies from his Viet Nam glory days.


31 posted on 01/05/2006 12:59:24 PM PST by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: Alberta's Child

Yeah, and the flood of ACLU full-page NYT ads calling GW a liar has not slowed down one bit. I think they really believe they can make a case for impeachment, but I also think that is a real long-shot because of the actual legal expansion of presidential powers during war time.


32 posted on 01/05/2006 1:00:00 PM PST by summer
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To: Darkwolf377
I have to admit, it would disturb me that we are bugging reporters.

We aren't bugging or wiretapping, we're eavesdropping (catching airwaves) of individuals in foreign lands calling known terrorists and their sympethizers in our country. If we catch "reporters" in this snare... too bad for them.

33 posted on 01/05/2006 1:00:06 PM PST by pgyanke (The only way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: summer
I think it is a smart move to listen in on some reporters phone calls to and from foreign countries. How many times have we seen video of a road side bomb going off, or a planted bomb in a public place going off?

How and why did the journalist with the video camera have his camera pointed at that area with the bomb at the time they didn't when there was nothing worth videoing going on prior to the explosion?

34 posted on 01/05/2006 1:00:42 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: summer

I am curious. Why is CNN and Salon not at all intrested in investigating the proven corrdination between CBS and the Kerry Campaign in fruadlent Rathergate story? Seems they are more intrested in MAKING UP accusations instead of investigating REAL corruption. Why is that?


35 posted on 01/05/2006 1:01:54 PM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: pgyanke
We aren't bugging or wiretapping

Calm down, your distinction has been noted. I don't like eavesdropping on reporters, happy now?

36 posted on 01/05/2006 1:03:27 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you. --Elmer Davis)
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To: Darkwolf377
I have to admit, it would disturb me that we are bugging reporters

See my post #34.

Reporters seem to magically be "at the right place at the right time" to capture images of some things.

And remember early on in the war when a group of journalists were approached by terrorists and the terrorists tipped them off that a convoy of American troops would be coming through shortly and they were going to attack them? Then the group of reporters took a position to capture the attack, but didn't warn the coming American forces!

There is good reason to eavesdrop on some reporters who clearly have contact with our enemies if it is known they have contact with them.

37 posted on 01/05/2006 1:04:30 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: summer

So what if they did? Amanpour and the RATS are in bed with the terrorists.


38 posted on 01/05/2006 1:04:46 PM PST by balch3
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To: Darkwolf377
Calm down, your distinction has been noted. I don't like eavesdropping on reporters, happy now?

I don't recall reporters too upset when Newt's private phone conversations were eavesdropped on. The media ran with the story with glee. No concern for privacy then.

39 posted on 01/05/2006 1:09:04 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Darkwolf377
I don't like eavesdropping on reporters, happy now?

It clarifies your position but I think it is a foolish one. Reporter is an entry-level position that any green-on-the-vine graduate can fill. FR is filled with examples of the subversive dealings of the MSM, how many reporters are actually Muhammed Attas writing stories to discredit the one man on earth with the combination of vision and nuts to go after them?

If a reporter needs monitoring, we'd better be monitoring! They aren't some class of human exempt of suspicion.

40 posted on 01/05/2006 1:09:17 PM PST by pgyanke (The only way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Always Right

Of course not. Then it was different because...uh... well, the media know best, right? /s.o.


41 posted on 01/05/2006 1:09:40 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you. --Elmer Davis)
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To: Pondman88

Rodger That...

You call a number flagged as a suspected terrorist or even someone who talks to known terrorist and you become subject to inquiry. If you don't think this matters remember that we had reporters in South East Asia say that they would not warn U.S. forces if they learned of enemy action since that would "compromise them" and (kinda) make them "spies". With this type of monitoring capability the NSA has the ability to do what the reporters say they could not "morally" do... know what the reporter knows if the reporter is collaborating with the enemy. If a state of war existed, oh by the way, such collaboration could get you hung, no matter what your exalted position in life.


42 posted on 01/05/2006 1:09:45 PM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: summer

Find it interesting why certain FReeper, while pretending to deplore it, keep assigning Intellectual Credibility to the most wacko far out accusations. Sorry but accusations are just that. Seems the closet Leftist here on Free Republic assume that if they keep screaming their lies over and over here some Freepers will believed them true. Sorry Accusations are NOT proof of ANYTHING.


43 posted on 01/05/2006 1:10:40 PM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: Darkwolf377

I would disturb you that we are bugging reporters who are talking to our enemy? Why because the enemy has a right to privacy? Becuase the media should be allowed to talk to our enemies and spew their propaganda? What exactly bothers you about our spy agencies monitoring phonecalls coming to and from known terrorist phone numbers? What if Dick Cheney was calling Osama's chef, would we want to hear what was discussed? You damn right and we have every right to arrest old Dick if he's talking sushi with a terorist - because Sushi could be code for Nuclear!

Christiane would have been my first wire tap, the editorial meeting room at the NYT and other news outlets would have been my second, third, etc...The government has the right to control information flow OUT of this country.


44 posted on 01/05/2006 1:13:04 PM PST by dannyboy72 (How long will you hold onto the rope when Liberals pull us off the cliff?)
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To: pgyanke
M'kay. But if you think the general public will share your position, which I think is logical, you're out of touch.

This will be portrayed as Watergate 2 far more easily than the "wiretapping" story. We will see nonstop, daily coverage of "Bush secretly spied on reporters" from now until election day. That's not going to go over well with the public because it will fit into the Democrats' "story" which they've been telling. Abu Grahbe, secret prisons, torture, wiretapping, Amanpour, none of them matter on their own, but the reporters will "connect the dots" and create the image of Bush as head of a Nazi police state.

The MSM is powerful as we all know. This will be a smear job of unbelievable proportions and we dismiss it at our peril.

45 posted on 01/05/2006 1:13:22 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you. --Elmer Davis)
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To: summer
Maybe now we can recover the "Destroyed" Word Classified Documents, that former NSA and then current Kerry advisor, Sandy Burgler STOLE


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46 posted on 01/05/2006 1:13:55 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back" -Homers guide to drinking in Springfield)
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To: dannyboy72
we have every right to arrest old Dick if he's talking sushi with a terorist - because Sushi could be code for Nuclear!

The blue eagle flies at dawn.

47 posted on 01/05/2006 1:14:12 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you. --Elmer Davis)
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To: pgyanke

Remember when the Clinton's were all up in arms about the "right-wing" media planting stories that then became news. And how many of those news organizations were suddenly hit with IRS audits. The Clinton's probably knew who ever donor to these sites were through their IRS pals. ISN'T THAT ALSO SPYING!


48 posted on 01/05/2006 1:16:26 PM PST by Lets Roll NOW
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To: summer

This would explain a lot about CNN.


49 posted on 01/05/2006 1:17:07 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: MNJohnnie
Sorry but accusations are just that

I'm not sure what you are trying to say in the rest of your post, but I agree with you on that, above.
50 posted on 01/05/2006 1:17:58 PM PST by summer
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