Skip to comments.Sado-Masochism Might be ‘Sexual Orientation’ says BC Human Rights Tribunal
Posted on 01/05/2006 2:36:24 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
VANCOUVER, January 5, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The BC Human Rights Tribunal is being asked to discover a new sexual orientation. The Vancouver Sun reported December 30, that a self-described pagan is accusing the Vancouver police of discrimination for refusing him a license to drive a limousine because of his involvement in the bondage and discipline, domination and submission, sadism and masochism (BDSM) underworld.
A Vancouver man, Peter Hayes, has accused the Vancouver police of illegal discrimination because of his involvement in BDSM. Hayes says that he lost a potential job as a limousine driver when police refused him a chauffeur's permit and has taken his case to the Human Rights Tribunal.
The Tribunals Lindsay M. Lyster wrote an 18 page preliminary decision saying that the complaint can go forward. She said that while she did not completely understand the precise nature of Mr. Hayes' lifestyle, practices and preferences, they ought to be investigated as to whether they fall under the definition of sexual orientation, and therefore of the protection of human rights legislation.
Lyster wrote that she did not understand the meaning of the parties' use of the term BDSM or other related terms. Despite this, she believed that Mr. Hayes suffered an adverse impact as a result of the respondents' actions is, on the facts alleged, clear, as he was denied a chauffeur's permit and lost the opportunity to work.
The police department said, In our submission, sexual orientation is separate and distinct from preferences or behaviours while engaging in sex. The legislature has not gone so far as to prohibit discrimination on the basis of preferences or behaviour.
The issue of legal protection for sexual orientation, however, is a vexed one since when such legislation was introduced, a clear definition was deliberately withheld.
Gwen Landolt, a family advocate and head of Real Women of Canada, told LifeSiteNews.com that no definition of the term can be found in Canadian law so it can and is used to provide legal protection to any sexual proclivity.
Landolt said, That was the whole point when the legislation began to appear. Orientation was left open so as to include pedophilia, bestiality or anything anyone wants.
This has been the goal of the homosexual movement from the start: to remove from the Canadian criminal code everything pertaining to sexual morality, and their favorite method is to use the Human Rights Tribunals. These tribunals are not run according to the standards of evidence and due process as the normal courts, Landolt said.
Lyster wrote that the Tribunal should employ the opinion of experts to decide if Mr. Hayes sexual interests could be considered an orientation. Given the willingness of experts to approve of most sexual activities that had heretofore been considered sick or dangerous to past generations, it seems to Landolt that one more sexual deviation is about to be given legal protection in Canada.
Landolt said, The same thing happened in Ontario with the so-called transgendered. They were refused OHIP coverage for their surgeries and they went to the Human Rights Tribunals. Now we have seen it with the swingers clubs in Montreal, and previously with child pornography. You name it.
This is the only logical next step following "gay rights". I'm not surprized at all. Bythis same logic, pedophelia, bestiality, necrophelia and the like are all "sexual orientations" and should be afforded special civil protections.
Why would a person be denied a limousine driver's permit for being involved in bondage, homosexuality, smoking, hunting, football, being a member of PETA, or for living any other type of lifestyle? What does bondage have to do with making a living driving a vehicle????
I thought pedophilia and bestiality were already protected activities in Canada. Oh . . . wait . . . bestiality might not be because of the Animal Rights Movement.
The obvious difference is that the acts you listed are illegal and done without the consent of the victim.
Hmm. Maybe they became disturbed when he showed up for the interview in a latex bodysuit and had to keep removing his ball gag to answer questions.
This the Land of the Green River killer - pig feeder
Defining perversion down.
HEHE, people who get aroused by drainpipes is next....
Or worse, people who get aroused WITH drain pipes...
I wouldn't think it a problem unless the feller decided to exercise his "lifestyle" on the job. And even then, if he'd prefer I beat him with a whip instead of tipping, it's OK by me...
Incest is next.
Please leave our New Zealand friends out of this...
How long before Hollywood treats us to an interspecies "love story" now that "Brokecrack Mountain" is on the big screen?
Ahem - just how bad is it going to get before it's turned around?
SM, how else can we explain procreation among liberals?
Well, there is a serious problem with the terminology - and that is actually at the root of the whole problem. Are these acts or are these orientations? Let's deal with homosexuality - is it an act or an orientation? Does an act have to be involved for homosexuality to exist as an entity? If the definition of homosexuality is 'attraction to a member of the same sex', than that means that the whole thing can only exist in one's mind (since by definition, attraction can only exist in the mind). Imagine that - all of this stupid same-sex legislation Canada has now blindly barged forward on is geared towards some stupid self-identification and and self-declarations that have nothing to do with what a person does? What would a means test be for homosexuality? On those grounds, pedophilia, bestiality and necrophilia or any other 'feelings' that one may have should gain equal standing, no? What about all those that managed to put homosexual thoughts aside and go 'straight'? I would submit that there is no such thing as homosexuality - there are are only acts of homosexuality and the same goes for all these other 'orienations'. As a matter of fact, I would submit there is only sexuality - and beyond that, there are normal and perverted acts as to how one's sexuality is manifested. And by the way, that's not just my thoughts on the matter, that's scripture.
I know. It's how I made my first million ;)
Seriously, the only way they'd know about this guy's proclivities is if he was arrested for them or was stupid enough to bring them up at the interview. No one should be forced to hire criminals and/or idiots.
How much lower can Canada sink! Is ritual Cannibalism next?
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So how exactly did the police become aware of this individuals involvement in the S&M scene ?
Thats important dontcha think ?
That's exactly what I was wondering. This guy must've been acting like a freak and flaunting it by whipping his customers or something. If he'd just kept it his own business no one would've know or cared what he did in the privacy of his own home.
As long as he didn't mix business with pleasure.It's kind of hard to drive the limo bound , gagged and being flogged at the same time.
That LAST word above is probably the operative one. The bondage etc part is just a modifier, so as not to confuse it with the "drug underworld", "racketeering underworld", etc.
All he is doing is trying to confuse the issue, IMHO.
"Thank the Lord He has put me about as far away on this earth from Canada as is possible."
Moral Absolutes and Homosexual Agenda Two-fer Ping.
The world is going mad. Any bets on how long what's called "civilization" will be able to continue before descending into a "Lord of the Flies" scenario?
I really don't know what to say. Any good comments or ideas, ping me.
As far as I'm concerned, it's FUBAR.
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thanks for the ping. I read it and put it out of my mind. Canada? Where's that?
Interesting note: Just how did the cops find out this pervert is involved in the BMSM or whatever it is world? Hmmm? Was he arrested for whipping or torturing people a little too roughly, or what?
If homosexuality, sado-masochism and other degenerates were "predisposed" toward their deviancy due to their DNA, this would certainly be a recessive gene. Because their lifestyles are inherently disinclined toward procreation, these recessive genes would diminish fairly quickly over time. However, just the opposite has occurred. All I can conclude from this is that they are making a choice, which is made simpler by an increasingly sinful and permissive society.
Sir Elton John can now be crowned the Queen of England.
What a disgusting thing. This is what happened when you get Liberals in power - and let's not trash Canada that much, after all, we have our own Liberals who are as bad as Canadian Liberals.
He's already a queen IN England...
There ya go throwing rational thought into it!!! LMAO!! How dareyou interject common sense!
Canada now, US to come in the not so distant future! Unless we somehow can get things back in line real quick!
"The world is going mad. Any bets on how long what's called "civilization" will be able to continue before descending into a "Lord of the Flies" scenario?"
Lord of the Flies:
Kill, kill, kill the pig!
Kill, Kill, KILL THE PIG!!!
Lord of the Flies, 2006 revised edition:
Kill, kill, kill the pig!
Kill, Kill, KILL THE PIG!!!
(Uh, guys, can I do the pig first?)
I put it out of my mind too. It must have been a slow day at LifeSiteNews. : )
Do ya think rape and child molestation will soon be a sexual orientation as well in BC? Man, these folks are hurtin'.
I read the book and then saw the movie when I was a young kid. It really freaked the heck out of me. To use vernacular.
Feral humans. There are too many of them, and more coming up.
I hope you and your family have a happy new year!
Perhaps Canada needs a taste of sharia law!!!!!!
"Do ya think rape and child molestation will soon be a sexual orientation as well in BC? Man, these folks are hurtin'."
I'm just saying that it follows the same logic. S&M is how some people get their sexual jollies. So are the things I listed. If S&M is an "orientation", why would the other things not be?
"I hope you and your family have a happy new year!"
Coming soon: The Canadian Inquisition!
Nothing like having your entire life examined under a microscope before getting a driver's license!
What is next?
Water-boarding before getting a credit card?
First-born child before approval for a mortgage?
Wait... perhaps I should stop, before some government officials steal my ideas.
As for this case, perhaps the police were involved because he wanted to drive a paddy-wagon, and miss-spelled it as Paddle-Wagon!
Hey, it is an innocent slip....