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What Secrets Did Japan's Ancient Emperors Take To The Grave? And Will We Ever Know
Asahi.com ^ | 1-5-2006 | Hiroshi Matsubara

Posted on 01/05/2006 4:14:56 PM PST by blam

What secrets did Japan's ancient emperors take to the grave? And will we ever know?

01/05/2006

By HIROSHI MATSUBARA, Staff Writer

This is the fourth in a series on issues and topics facing Japan's imperial family.

A new challenge is being mounted that may eventually put the Imperial Household Agency in something of a tight corner.

Academics have long called on the agency to open imperial tombs to full inspection to resolve riddles of Japan's ancient past and put to rest lingering doubts about the authenticity of some of the final resting places of emperors.

All this time, the agency, the guardian of imperial tombs and all matters concerning the imperial family, has never accepted these requests on grounds that the "tranquillity and dignity of imperial ancestors" must be respected.

But now, a new twist is being added to the debate over imperial tombs.

It stems from Mayor Keisuke Kihara of Sakai, Osaka Prefecture, who believes he has a game plan to put his city of 830,000 people on the map.

In a nutshell, he wants to promote a fifth-century burial mound that is said to hold the mortal remains of Emperor Nintoku. The keyhole-shaped mound is one of the largest burial monuments in the world.

Kihara wants the site designated as a World Heritage site by UNESCO. Such listing would draw tourists to Sakai from all over the world, he says.

Kihara has strong community backing for the project, but he realizes he faces an uphill battle in trying to get the household agency to reconsider its stand.

"I will make every effort to pave the way to achieve this difficult goal before my current term ends (in 2009)," Kihara said.

His grand plan was a major plank of his campaign pledge in the October 2005 mayoral election.

Kihara is now preparing to set up a committee of experts to map out a strategy to win the household agency's cooperation.

It seems certain that his decision will reignite debate between the household agency and academics over how imperial tombs should be treated.

For its part, the agency takes the stance that imperial tombs, including those constructed during the Kofun Period (between the third and seventh centuries), should not be regarded merely as objects of academic inspection.

The imperial tombs controlled by the agency include those built for mythical emperors, such as Emperor Jinmu, Japan's first emperor.

He is said to have reigned between 660 B.C. and 585 B.C., according to the ancient chronicle Nihon Shoki, which was completed in 720.

About the first dozen in the chronicle's list of emperors are widely believed to be mythical figures created by court historians in the seventh century.

Public support sought

Whatever the truth of the matter, Kihara is champing at the bit to change the status quo.

"The tumulus is a historical and cultural treasure not only for Sakai residents but also for the entire world," he said. "The question is whether it should be viewed only as a grave and be controlled by the Imperial Household Agency alone."

For the Nintoku tomb to be qualfied for recognition as a World Heritage site, it must be first designated as a national cultural treasure by the Cultural Affairs Agency.

But here the household agency is unbending. It currently controls about 900 imperial tombs and apparently has no intention of handing over control to either the Cultural Affairs Agency or local governments.

Sakai officials have already repeatedly asked the agency to reconsider, but to no avail.

The agency has told The Asahi Shimbun in a written statement: "The purpose of conventions on world cultural and natural heritage sites is for the signatory nations to join hands to protect treasures that face extinction or destruction. Imperial tombs are being used as imperial assets and are sufficiently managed and most properly preserved from the viewpoint of maintaining their cultural significance. Because of this, the agency believes that there is no need for them to be designated as historical sites nor for them to be registered as World Heritage sites."

'Only strong public opinion demanding more access to the tombs could sway the agency.' YOSHIYUKI HABUTA, Professor of archaeology at Senshu University

"Since our request requires a change in the rules, the prospect of my plan succeeding is still not clear," Kihara said. "Success will depend on whether or not we can take advantage of public sentiment that calls for more openness in the way the agency handles the affairs of the imperial family."

Some scholars pin their hopes on Kihara because he may have put the agency on the defensive.

Last year, the agency was red-faced when Noboru Toike, assistant professor of history at Den-en Chofu University in Kanagawa Prefecture, produced agency documents that revealed for the first time its doubts about the authenticity of at least 10 imperial grave sites where emperors are supposedly buried. The scholar used the Freedom of Information Law to obtain the documents from the agency.

Based on his studies of public documents from the 19th century through the first half of the 20th century, Toike pointed out that many imperial tombs, which do not have epitaphs, were hastily refurbished and designated in the late Edo Period (1603-1867) amid a wave of nationalistic sentiment calling for restoration of the emperor system. The Meiji Restoration in 1868 provided the finishing touch by politicizing the historical authority of the restored emperor system, he said.

Still, the agency shows no sign of wanting to re-examine its policy.

"Scholars' requests alone will not bring any change in the attitude of the agency," said Yoshiyuki Habuta, professor of archaeology at Senshu University and a former chief researcher at the agency's mausolea and tombs division. "The issue is a highly political one. Only strong public opinion demanding more access to the tombs could sway the agency."

School teachers dismayed

The standoff is not limited to scholars and the Imperial Household Agency. Students also are being taught a version of history that may well be wrong in many areas.

The Gunge Elementary School in Takatsuki, Osaka Prefecture, is a case in point. The city's Imashirozuka-kofun (ancient burial mound) is believed by most scholars to be the grave site of sixth-century Emperor Keitai. Yet, this is at odds with the agency's official position that Emperor Keitai was buried at Ota-Chausuyama-kofun, 1.5 kilometers west of Imashirozuka-kofun.

In August, about 2,500 local residents, including students of the elementary school, staged a mock ancient funeral by dragging a wooden chamber containing a replica stone coffin using materials resembling broken bits that were unearthed from inside the tomb's compound.

The event was based on the understanding that the Imashirozuka-kofun is the emperor's true resting place.

In fact, the Imperial Household Agency documents obtained by Toike indicate that even the agency's internal committee concluded in 1936 that the other tomb is highly likely where the emperor was laid to rest.

¡ÈIncredibly, our teachers still cannot tell their pupils much about the fact that the Imashirozuka-kofun is most likely the real grave," said Masahiro Miki, principal of Gunge Elementary School, located adjacent to the Imashirozuka-kofun.

"Any discussion concerning the authenticity of the designation of imperial tombs will be viewed as a challenge to the foundation of the emperor system and may draw severe criticism from some parents," he said.

For Yasuhide Hiramatsu, a 12-year-old at the school, all this talk of history is almost beside the point.

¡ÈI was glad the discoveries of burial figures at the tomb made me realize that my favorite place for hide and seek is a precious historical monument.

¡ÈI was told by my mom if any object decisively linking the tomb to the imperial family is unearthed, the Imperial Household Agency may move to control it and prohibit us from entering the tomb. I do not want that to happen."

¢¡FOOTNOTES

The Imperial Household Agency guards its control of 896 imperial tombs, including the tumuli of 124 emperors.

Based on archaeological discoveries, scholars believe that few of the ancient tombs are authentic.

However, the agency has neither reviewed the original designation nor accepted outside researchers' requests for extensive academic inspections.

In an apparent compromise, the agency since 1979 has allowed representatives of academic societies and journalists to enter one or two tombs for a brief inspection tour each year.

A tomb designated as that of legendary female sovereign Emperor Iitoyo in Nara Prefecture was opened for the tour in December.

It turned out that the tomb underwent a major refurbishment in the late Edo Period.

Experts believe the work was intended to make the tomb look solemn enough for an emperor.

In July last year, 15 academic societies urged the agency to allow them to enter 11 burial mounds, including Emperor Nintoku's tumulus, for inspection. The agency replied it will examine the request on the basis of whether the tombs should be viewed more as sites of imperial rites or cultural treasures.

The agency is expected to announce its decision this year.(IHT/Asahi: January 5,2006)


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KEYWORDS: ancient; emperors; ever; godsgravesglyphs; grave; japans; know; secrets; take; we; what; will
Wonder what will happen when they open one of the tombs and discover a real tall Ainu guy?
1 posted on 01/05/2006 4:14:58 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

If we knew, they wouldn't be secrets anymore. Right, smart guy? OK then.


2 posted on 01/05/2006 4:18:01 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

The Samurai And The Ainu

3 posted on 01/05/2006 4:19:32 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

"What Secrets Did Japan's Ancient Emperors Take To The Grave? And Will We Ever Know"


That they were korean, apparently.


4 posted on 01/05/2006 4:21:17 PM PST by gondramB (Democracy: two wolves and a lamb voting on lunch. Liberty: a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: blam
Wonder what will happen when they open one of the tombs and discover a real tall Ainu guy?

The only question is will Geraldo be there to open the tombs?
5 posted on 01/05/2006 4:32:27 PM PST by Man50D
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To: DTogo

ping


6 posted on 01/05/2006 4:40:38 PM PST by lesser_satan
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To: blam

"Always start with the 1's...do the rows first, then the columns...if the number is in one of the small blocks then you only have six more boxes to check..."


7 posted on 01/05/2006 4:56:59 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Man50D

Why does Fox still employ that loser?


8 posted on 01/05/2006 5:00:29 PM PST by brooklin
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To: brooklin
Why does Fox still employ that loser?

Maybe he is the only one to willing to cry as he reports. Remember Fox is fair and balanced! :)
9 posted on 01/05/2006 5:04:14 PM PST by Man50D
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To: Man50D
The only question is will Geraldo be there to open the tombs?

If there's a TV camera and a microphone, Geraldo will be there.

10 posted on 01/05/2006 5:13:16 PM PST by Wolfstar ("We must...all hang together or...we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: blam

It's been a while since I was in college, but I seem to recall from the archaeology classes that I took that the general rule of thumb is: "If you know who's buried in the grave, you don't get to dig it up." The thinking was that any identifiable grave will also have identifiable descendants who would object to their ancestors grave being desecrated.

Seemed like a sensible rule at the time, and it still seems sensible today. This isn't some monument, it's someones coffin. Unless they have an extremely pressing need to check something out in it, they should leave it alone. I'd hate to think that a thousand years from now some scientist will be sticking my skull in a box because my grave goods happened to interest him.

The other rule I learned in that class, by the way, was "Treat every grave like it's your fathers", so I'm fully aware that the object here isn't simply desecration.


11 posted on 01/05/2006 5:42:46 PM PST by Arthalion
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To: blam

12 posted on 01/05/2006 5:51:41 PM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Arthalion
The thinking was that any identifiable grave will also have identifiable descendants who would object to their ancestors grave being desecrated.
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I guess the Emperor would qualify as an identifiable descendant.
13 posted on 01/05/2006 6:37:27 PM PST by Cheburashka
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; StayAt HomeMother; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; asp1; ...
Thanks Blam.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
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14 posted on 01/05/2006 10:17:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this URL -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/pledge)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

To change a decision at the Imperial Household Agency takes time. What is your impression?


15 posted on 01/06/2006 4:32:37 AM PST by AdmSmith
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To: Caipirabob

Sorry. That's chinese


16 posted on 01/06/2006 5:46:19 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Caipirabob

(BTW, That was funny)


17 posted on 01/06/2006 5:46:54 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: blam

"Wonder what will happen when they open one of the tombs and discover a real tall Ainu guy?"

Either that... or a diaspora Israelite.


18 posted on 01/06/2006 5:53:17 AM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: adam_az

http://www5.ocn.ne.jp/~magi9/isracame.htm


19 posted on 01/06/2006 7:08:55 AM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: adam_az
"I am a Japanese Christian writer living in Japan. As I study the Bible, I began to realize that many traditional customs and ceremonies in Japan are very similar to the ones of ancient Israel. I considered that perhaps these rituals came from the religion and customs of the Jews and the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel who might have come to ancient Japan. The following sections are concerned with those Japanese traditions which possibly originated from the ancient Israelites."

It is my opinion that the myths and customs flow would be going from the east to the west instead of the other way. The customs may have originated in Japan.

Read This book by Stephen Oppenheimer.

Eden in the East

The Drowned Continent of Southeast Asia

Stephen Oppenheimer

The biblical flood really did occur - at the end of the last Ice Age. The Flood drowned for ever the huge continetal shelf of Southeast Asia, and caused a population dispersal which fertilized the Neolithic cultures of China, India, Mesopotamia, Egypt and the eastern Mediterranean, thus creating the first civilizations. The Polynesians did not come from China but from the islands of Southeast Asia. The domestication of rice was not in China but in the Malay Peninsula, 9,000 years ago.

20 posted on 01/06/2006 8:32:55 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

" It is my opinion that the myths and customs flow would be going from the east to the west instead of the other way. The customs may have originated in Japan."

Current genetic research doesn't indicate any major move of eastern population towards the west.


21 posted on 01/06/2006 8:34:59 AM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: adam_az
"Current genetic research doesn't indicate any major move of eastern population towards the west."

Not true. Recent DNA studies done by Professor Stephen Oppenheimer shows gene flow from east to west. Take the journey I've linked below.

The Journey Of Mankind

22 posted on 01/06/2006 10:39:18 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

23 posted on 01/06/2006 10:42:12 AM PST by wallcrawlr (Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
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To: blam

" Not true. Recent DNA studies done by Professor Stephen Oppenheimer shows gene flow from east to west. Take the journey I've linked below."

I mean during bilblical times... not the prehistoric times Oppenheimer speaks of.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was on to something. Other than his Marxism, I mean.


24 posted on 01/06/2006 10:52:42 AM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: blam

http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/reviews/atlantis.html

"Oppenheimer is a medical doctor who has lived in Southeast Asia for decades. He is clearly influenced by Marxism, e.g. where he dismisses religion as a means to “control other people’s labour", with explicit reference to Karl Marx’s Das Kapital (p.483). His book is based on solid scientific research (genetic, anthropological, linguistic and archaeological), and is in that respect very different from the numerous Atlantis books which draw on “revelations” and “channeling”."

His idea that much ancient civilzation is now sunken is pretty self evident - he didn't originate the theory - but he's backed it up quite a bit.


25 posted on 01/06/2006 10:54:50 AM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: blam
Thanks, Blam and the others, for a very stimulating thread and discussion.
26 posted on 01/06/2006 12:32:08 PM PST by colorado tanker (I can't comment on things that might come before the Court, but I can tell you my Pinochle strategy)
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To: wallcrawlr
That shape looks strangely familiar...
27 posted on 01/06/2006 12:50:45 PM PST by To Hell With Poverty (I don't think I'm half as good as I know I really am.)
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To: To Hell With Poverty

ha ha...most obscure south park reference ever.


28 posted on 01/06/2006 12:54:29 PM PST by wallcrawlr (Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
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