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Tookie's fan club are fair weather death penalty foes?
01/05/2006 | Former Military Chick

Posted on 01/05/2006 7:14:39 PM PST by Former Military Chick

Stop the presses, the Hollywood elite have just become the new death penalty advocates.

As executions approach, it never surprises me that some will come out of the wood work to challenge the death penalty, fighting for the filth who is haunt death row for basically doing the worst that can be done to our fellow Americans.

So, the "Tookie Award Ceremony" took things to new heights. They rallied against the death penalty. That it was inhumane, that it was wrong, that it does nothing to stop the murderers. I listened, carefully to their arguments. They feel that each person on death row should be condemned to a life in prison. Frankly, I think they would even give them parole but I will, for argument's sake, say they want their sentence reduced to life without parole. Farrell, Asner, Snoop and Alda are passionate about their cause. Not one person should be on death row. Their lives are worth saving. You have to admire their dedication to saving all those sentenced to death. Tookie should have been honored. This is what our noble entertainers do in their spare time. Saving those condemned. I say bravo to their sincerity, to their dedication, to their heavy hearts for these felons.

Wait! Did you notice, Clarence Ray Allen, 75, "convicted of ordering the murder of his son's girlfriend, Sue Kitts, in 1974. Allen was convicted of ordering three more killings from behind bars....", is going it alone? Where are his dedicated Hollywood anti-death penalty advocates?

"Lovable" Mr. Allen could be one of their grandfathers, and is about to be put to death. He could have played Santa at their grandchildren's Christmas pageants. But, life dealt him a raw deal leading him to be forced to order the execution of 3 people. Goodness, he is a victim. He is now suffering, needing new organs. He has trouble seeing and cannot get around without his taxpayer-provided wheel chair. He is a grandpa. The Hollywood elite are not preventing the execution of grandpa? How can they allow this? Not one word from them. Not a sit in. Not an editorial. No rants on Larry King.

So, the left has become what they worst fear: The executioner. They have decided which life is worth saving and which isn't. They are playing God.

Hollywood hypocrites have put themselves in the role of deciding who should die and they have decided to condemn grandpa by their silence.

Of course they'll never admit or even recognize that their complicity in choosing to ignore one convicted criminal's plight and not another's actually justifies the death penalty. If the death sentence were unjust, it would be just as unjust for Grandpa Allen without the spotlights and microphones as it is for Tookie Williams with them.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: clarencerayallen; deathrow; hollywood; stanleywilliams
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1 posted on 01/05/2006 7:14:41 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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To: No Longer Free State

PING


2 posted on 01/05/2006 7:15:10 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: writer33; Congressman Billybob

Ping.

FMC makes an excellent point about the silence of the lefties over Arnold's next execution.


3 posted on 01/05/2006 7:17:38 PM PST by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect)
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To: Former Military Chick

No "face time" to be had on this one so they'll wait at home for the call from their agent that ain't comin'.


4 posted on 01/05/2006 7:19:36 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Former Military Chick

Then there's cory Maye down in Mississippi.

http://www.theagitator.com/archives/025962.php


5 posted on 01/05/2006 7:21:26 PM PST by claudiustg (Go Bush! Go Sharon!)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Excellent point. Thank you.


6 posted on 01/05/2006 7:22:49 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Brava!


7 posted on 01/05/2006 7:25:32 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Former Military Chick

Good analysis of liberal hypocrisy and hubris.


8 posted on 01/05/2006 7:25:33 PM PST by oneofmany (ACLU - Just a buncha Godd#@n Communists)
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To: Former Military Chick

He shoulda writ a couple children's books.


9 posted on 01/05/2006 7:25:44 PM PST by atomicpossum (If I don't reply, don't think you're winning. I often just don't bother to argue.)
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To: Former Military Chick

"They are playing God"

You're right, that's because they think they're God. Those people you named not only think they know more than anyone else, they think they have the right to dictate to everyone else how to live their lives. Some are more intelligent than others, but they should stick to their acting. That's what they know most about.


10 posted on 01/05/2006 7:28:10 PM PST by jazusamo (A Progressive is only a Socialist in a transparent disguise.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Good post.

Do you think Hollywood's deafening silence this time has anything to do with Murderer Allen's color?


11 posted on 01/05/2006 7:29:19 PM PST by DakotaGator
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To: atomicpossum

That or killed a cop.


12 posted on 01/05/2006 7:31:02 PM PST by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect)
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To: Former Military Chick

Mr. Allen should've written a children's book about not putting out contracts while incarcerated.


13 posted on 01/05/2006 7:31:15 PM PST by skr ("That book [Bible], sir, is the rock on which our republic rests."--Andrew Jackson)
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To: AmericanMade1776; yankeedame; son of caesar; G.Mason; Eddie01; Lonesome in Massachussets; verity; ..

My beloved [No Longer Free State] is the writer in the family. However, after posting the updates on this case, reading with interest who was involved supporting his clemency it struck me as odd that the left is so silent.
Their silence is sticking the needle into the guys arm. Thus making them the executioner, so to speak. They should be so proud of themselves.

It is rare that I write a vanity but I do hope I got my point across and perhaps a bit of discussion out of it.

~FMC


14 posted on 01/05/2006 7:31:23 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: DakotaGator

One has to wonder. There is something about this guy that the left does not like. His age? His race? His crime? Hard to figure.

Nice to know that they too can decide who lives and dies.

Thank you for the comment.


15 posted on 01/05/2006 7:33:21 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: DakotaGator

I have to wonder what mailing list all these protesters are on. Who is pulling their strings? I can't believe that any of them have the brains to make the decision themselves. Out of all the executions in the last year, they picked Tookie? And all of them made that choice independently without being told to do it by their agent?

I wish I had the controls to their mind implant chips or whatever impels them to this lemming-like behavior.


16 posted on 01/05/2006 7:35:13 PM PST by generally
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To: Former Military Chick

Good rant there. What is a military chick?


17 posted on 01/05/2006 7:38:33 PM PST by buffman
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To: claudiustg

I had not heard of the case but you bring up a good point. They only seem to care about American's that are only on death row in California. Heaven forbid they have to leave their lap of luxury to go to TX, OK or FL to defend the right's of a convicted murderer about to be executed.

They themselves are ignoring those who do not agree with their agenda, are effectively deciding who lives and who dies.

Thanks again for the link.


18 posted on 01/05/2006 7:38:50 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: buffman

I served in the United States Air Force.

Thanks for the comment.


19 posted on 01/05/2006 7:39:52 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Hollywood prefers gang-bangers and cop killers to chant for.
Richard Lee Boyd, a southern white male was executed just before Tookie, but where were the Hollywood vermin??
How about McVay? or the guy who killed an abortion doctor and was executed for it. MSM will never speak out on this dispicable hypocrisy.


20 posted on 01/05/2006 7:41:14 PM PST by roughman ( roughmen stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm (orwell))
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To: Former Military Chick

What did you do in the Air Force ?


21 posted on 01/05/2006 7:42:29 PM PST by al baby (Father of the beeber)
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To: Former Military Chick

Hollywood prefers gang-bangers and cop killers to chant for.
Richard Lee Boyd, a southern white male was executed just before Tookie, but where were the Hollywood vermin??
How about McVay? or the guy who killed an abortion doctor and was executed for it. MSM will never speak out on this dispicable hypocrisy.


22 posted on 01/05/2006 7:43:17 PM PST by roughman ( roughmen stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm (orwell))
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To: al baby

Metrologist


23 posted on 01/05/2006 7:43:31 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Cool if had it to do over i would have studied that


24 posted on 01/05/2006 7:44:35 PM PST by al baby (Father of the beeber)
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To: Former Military Chick

DICTIONARY OF OCCUPATIONAL TITLES (4th Ed., Rev. 1991) -- OCCUPATIONAL GROUP ARRANGEMENT






012.067-010 METROLOGIST (profess. & kin.)

Develops and evaluates calibration systems that measure characteristics of objects, substances, or phenomena, such as length, mass, time, temperature, electric current, luminous intensity, and derived units of physical or chemical measure: Identifies magnitude of error sources contributing to uncertainty of results to determine reliability of measurement process in quantitative terms. Redesigns or adjusts measurement capability to minimize errors. Develops calibration methods and techniques based on principles of measurement science, technical analysis of measurement problems, and accuracy and precision requirements. Directs engineering, quality, and laboratory personnel in design, manufacture, evaluation, and calibration of measurement standards, instruments, and test systems to ensure selection of approved instrumentation. Advises others on methods of resolving measurement problems and exchanges information with other metrology personnel through participation in government and industrial standardization committees and professional societies.
GOE: 05.01.04 STRENGTH: S GED: R6 M6 L6 SVP: 8 DLU: 77

Is that what you did??


25 posted on 01/05/2006 7:51:51 PM PST by buffman
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To: buffman

One thing's for sure, FMC wasn't a typist. Sometimes she tries to type as fast as she thinks and her fingers aren't up to the task.

She was a meteorologist in the Air Force.


26 posted on 01/05/2006 7:59:38 PM PST by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect)
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To: al baby

Thanks, I am glad you knew what I meant I typed fast and it should have been spelled Meterologist.

I really enjoyed it, all though it does put a whole meaning when I look up at the clouds. :)


27 posted on 01/05/2006 8:01:07 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: No Longer Free State

Yeah, thats what I figured.


28 posted on 01/05/2006 8:01:09 PM PST by buffman
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To: roughman

Excellent point and frankly I hadn't been paying all that attention to this issue as I should have. But, you see, I believe in the justice system and hope that when all is said and done what the jury decides will be carried out.

Hopefully sooner rather than later. Obviously I should take a more active role in following this because the victims deserve justice and perhaps we need to start demanding that it be done sooner rather than later.

Thanks for the comment.


29 posted on 01/05/2006 8:06:05 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: skr

Well, that would have been great but it appears there is nobody on the outside in the last 20 plus years who has spirited his cause. Again, where is the left when a death row inmate needs them.


30 posted on 01/05/2006 8:07:38 PM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick

The only reason to abolish the death penalty is if every single death row inmate is instead forced to work the rest of their days in a coal or uranium mine.

Then you might convince me the death penalty is no longer necessary. Until then, the criminal enablers on the left should stfu.


31 posted on 01/05/2006 8:13:42 PM PST by GuineaRabbit
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To: Former Military Chick

---Heaven forbid they have to leave their lap of luxury to go to TX, OK or FL to defend the right's of a convicted murderer about to be executed. ---

San Quentin is a stones throw from San Francisco: great hotels, wonderful restaurants, great views, loads of people that share their oh-so-liberal point of view, and it must be 15 minutes to San Quentin across the Golden Gate, after hours. Why the California Department of Corrections hasn't move death row off to Pelican Bay is beyond me, unless it has something to do with assuring the legal community's plushy comfort.


32 posted on 01/05/2006 8:14:31 PM PST by claudiustg (Go Bush! Go Sharon!)
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To: claudiustg

They come to Waynesburg, Pa for the cop killer Abu Jamal.
ed assner , glover , robbins and their ilk. So Cal. is not alone.


33 posted on 01/05/2006 8:17:44 PM PST by roughman ( roughmen stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm (orwell))
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To: GuineaRabbit

From conviction to execution takes too long. There should be an absolute time limit of, say, no more than five years from conviction for the death penalty to be carried out.


34 posted on 01/05/2006 8:23:54 PM PST by buffman
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To: GuineaRabbit
The only reason to abolish the death penalty is if every single death row inmate is instead forced to work the rest of their days in a coal or uranium mine.

You don't think they'd put innocent people in danger by working in such places?

35 posted on 01/05/2006 8:30:16 PM PST by supercat (Sony delinda est.)
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To: Former Military Chick
convicted of ordering the murder of his son's girlfriend, Sue Kitts, in 1974

Astonishing. I was born in 1974. The wheels of justice don't turn very quickly. One thing is certain: If he had been executed for his first murder several other people would be alive.

I certainly don't begrudge Asner and the others a principled opposition to the death penalty in general. The Mummia-esque "He's innocent! Saint Tookie was framed by Amerikka's injustice system" BS is getting very old however. I wish they would save the liberal violin music until a situation develops where there is even a .001% chance the condemned is actually innocent.

They will make a gesture towards protesting this clown's execution but he doesn't have the same appeal for "progressive" do-gooders that Tookie did. You don't get any liberal street cred for an old white guy. Arnold won't dare grant him clemency.

36 posted on 01/05/2006 9:00:14 PM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: claudiustg
San Quentin is a stones throw from San Francisco

Yes. If Texas could just arrange to conduct its executions in Malibu or Beverly Hills they would get more of the nut-case supporters every doomed murderer needs to make his final hours into a disgraceful media circus.

37 posted on 01/05/2006 9:12:08 PM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Well done, FMC. Somebody had to point it out! THe silence is rather deafening. The only half-newsworthy thing said about it was from some obscure politician working at the EU.

Lastly, thank you for your service. You still type better than I do.


38 posted on 01/05/2006 11:03:34 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy (Barry Goldwater hates me! A newbie told me so, folks.)
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To: Former Military Chick
Death Penalty--- That it was inhumane, that it was wrong
So is murder

39 posted on 01/06/2006 1:48:54 AM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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To: generally
I wish I had the controls to their mind implant chips or whatever impels them to this lemming-like behavior.

Yes. Literally. It would be nice watching them all charge off a cliff into the sea ;-)

40 posted on 01/06/2006 4:26:11 AM PST by DakotaGator
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To: Former Military Chick

What amazes me is that the race card hasn't been played. Where's Jesse? Clarence Ray Allen is a Choctaw. I guess that doesn't count for anything.


41 posted on 01/06/2006 5:04:53 AM PST by cloud8
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To: Former Military Chick

Its the race of the victim that throws them in a dither.

Long explanations could be written, but basically they have fallen for the idea that blacks are victoms because they are born black.


42 posted on 01/06/2006 5:13:01 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Former Military Chick
Wait! Did you notice, Clarence Ray Allen, 75, "convicted of ordering the murder of his son's girlfriend, Sue Kitts, in 1974. Allen was convicted of ordering three more killings from behind bars....", is going it alone? Where are his dedicated Hollywood anti-death penalty advocates? Because Clarence Ray Allen is WHITE see This
43 posted on 01/06/2006 5:53:39 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Funny how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather...)
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To: AZ_Cowboy

Thank you for your kind words. While I enjoy expressing my thoughts it is usually in a paragraph or two. So, writing this vanity was a bit out of character but than again my frustration for this issue has been elevated to a point where I had to speak out.

I had to wonder, why do the likes of Farrell, Alda and Asner feel this elderly man is not worthy of fighting for. I so disagree with their position. I cannot even understand anyone who would want to undermine the legal/jury system, it escapes me.

Yet, I can respect those that hold dear their beliefs. That are consistent with their positions. The Hollywood Left is NOT consistent and should be called on this. I did my best to point it out.

It was a privilege to serve my country, I appreciate your gratitude.


44 posted on 01/06/2006 7:06:18 AM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: L98Fiero

I thought you might be interested in reading this.


45 posted on 01/06/2006 8:35:47 AM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Good stuff, thanks.


46 posted on 01/06/2006 8:44:04 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: Ouderkirk

That guy has got some creepy eyes.


47 posted on 01/06/2006 7:27:05 PM PST by confederate_infidel (Who are YOU to set the boundries of a table spoon?)
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To: beaversmom

PING


48 posted on 01/07/2006 5:29:04 AM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: SmithL

Looks like you are following this case as closely as I am, thought you might be interested on my thoughts as this case finally and hopefully comes to justice.


49 posted on 01/07/2006 5:32:10 AM PST by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick

This just proves my point. If Clarence only had a cuter name, he too could be a hero of the left.

Clarence Delenda Est!


50 posted on 01/07/2006 9:31:43 AM PST by SmithL (Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Lift up your gates and sing, Hosana in the highest! Hosana to your King!)
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